# Somebody Much Smug? New Chick Tract Takes an Original Tornado, oops - TURN!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 4, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143 "2008-11-04T20:54:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/21 "2008-11-07T19:19:10Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Before WWI, Britain promised Ottoman Palestine to the Jews **and** to the Arabs. When the time came to choose, they double-crossed the Arabs. Not the Jews. The Arabs.

How so? You know they gave 4/5ths of the Ottoman Palestine to Prince Abdullah, and then in 1/5th they ruled themselves, practically banned Jewish immigration, and that, after WWII was over, it took a 2 year Jewish revolt to get the British out, right?

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/22 "2008-11-07T20:08:16Z")

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I like the old farmer’s aquiline schnoz.

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**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/23 "2008-11-07T20:18:00Z")

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Following this “the weather proves God’s will” logic, then President-elect Obama really _is_ the Messiah. Just think of that supernaturally good weather he had (In Chicago! In November!) during his acceptance speech!

Isn’t there a passage in the NT where Jesus declares that natural disasters are no indication of God’s will or judgment? I swear I read it during my Bible as Lit class, but can’t remember where it was now.

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**Author:** ![Szlater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Szlater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Szlater)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/24 "2008-11-07T20:19:18Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> and then in 1/5th they ruled themselves, practically banned Jewish immigration

They did a shitty job of stopping Jewish immigration.

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> According to official records, 367,845 Jews and 33,304 non-Jews immigrated legally between 1920 and 1945.[58] It was estimated that another 50–60,000 Jews and a small number of non-Jews immigrated illegally during this period.[59]

> [@Captain Amazing](#):
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> and that, after WWII was over, it took a 2 year Jewish revolt to get the British out, right?

Terror campaign. They bombed hotels and markets. The Palestinian Arabs responded in kind at the time too by bombing Jewish districts.

[The British Mandate of Palestine](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Mandate_of_Palestine#Establishment_of_the_Mandate), it’s interesting reading.

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**Author:** ![constanze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@constanze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/constanze)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/25 "2008-11-07T20:43:24Z")

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So if God wants to protect Israel, why is he sending the hurricanes to the US, and not to the Arabs threatening them? Why not dry up the oil wells that give the Arabs such a hold over the rest of the world?

I’m sure all the people who’s homes have been hit by tornadoes/hurricanes will love the implication that if they had prayed hard enough - like the farmer in the story - their homes would have been miracously spared.

Also, isn’t the praying farmer a bit too sure that God will spare his farm simply because of the prayer? What about the bit in the Bible about letting God’s will happen, not your own (and that God’s ways are ineffable to man)?

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/26 "2008-11-07T21:04:55Z")

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You mean if a tornado or hurricane is heading my way, all I have to do is pray and it will go around me? It’s so simple, why didn’t I see it before?

Shouldn’t we hand out some Chick Tracts in all the trailer parks and bayous?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/27 "2008-11-07T21:25:03Z")

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Damn, I haven’t looked at one of these things in over 20 years. I think they are crazier now. Is Chick the only one that does these or does he have competition? I recall one that I think was a Chick Track from the late 80s that condemned Tolkien and C.S. Lewis.

BTW: The writer is a Simpson’s fan? I swear that was Nelson Munce playing the Giant.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/28 "2008-11-07T23:34:20Z")

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> [@Szlater](#):
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> They did a shitty job of stopping Jewish immigration.

They did a pretty good damn job of stopping Jewish immigration, or at least slowing it down. The worst crisis of the Jewish world is brewing, and they set the immigration quota at 75,000 people over a four year period? 50,000 people interned on Cyprus? Yeah, way to go.

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> Terror campaign. They bombed hotels and markets. The Palestinian Arabs responded in kind at the time too by bombing Jewish districts

One hotel was bombed, and that hotel, may I remind you, was the headquarters of the British occupation government. And the bombs didn’t go off before the hotel was given three warnings by the group that planted them. Warnings which they ignored.

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**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/29 "2008-11-09T14:32:59Z")

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I was waiting for God to restore Charlie’s hair.

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/30 "2008-11-09T17:53:40Z")

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> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#):
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> Wow. Not even liberals ever blamed _Katrina itself_ (the hurricane, as opposed to the cleanup) on Mean Ol’ Dubya.

Hey, that’s not a specious claim, when you think about it. The GWB Administration has consistently avoided any type of environmental reform, up to and including [bald-faced censorship](http://www.mindfully.org/Air/2005/Bush-Global-Warming8jun05.htm) with regards to Global Warming. It’s highly evident that Anthropogenic Climate Change _is_ real, and the sudden rise of temperature in the Gulf of Mexico can be directly linked to ultra right-wing government policies – which directly triggered THREE Category Five Hurricanes in 2005, including the most devastating one of our time.

And that doesn’t even include the REAL damage caused by the aftermath of Katrina, by which I mean the pussy-footed, jerk-ass response from FEMA, which was led by GWB’s crony at the time. That’s what people remember.

9/11 was planned by Al-Qaeda, and it’s common knowledge that the FBI, NSA, etc. _should have known_ that something big was about to happen, and they ignored the warning signs. Also, I strongly suspect – not believe, but **suspect** – that certain high-ranking officials (i.e. Dick Cheney, maybe one or two others) knew _exactly_ what was going down, and they _allowed it to happen_ because they knew they would profit greatly from it (Halliburton, anyone?) in addition to forcing fear-based anti-freedom laws upon America. (Yes…I’m convinced Dick Cheney is that EVIL. I’m not saying he’s responsive, I’m just saying he _could_ have been responsible. It’s within the realm of possibility.)

The current global economic crisis speaks for itself – indeed, this current crisis is basically a “Financial 9/11”, which had the potential to destroy the foundations of our very civilization. What’s happening in the stock market and the banking system RIGHT NOW is a far greater disaster than 9/11, Katrina, and the Metrolink crash combined…and the Republican Conservatives (up to and including GWB) are _entirely_ responsible for this one! ([Glass-Steagall Act](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass-Steagall_Act), anyone?)

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/31 "2008-11-09T18:10:44Z")

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> [@KGS](#):
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> The current global economic crisis speaks for itself – indeed, this current crisis is basically a “Financial 9/11”, which had the potential to destroy the foundations of our very civilization. What’s happening in the stock market and the banking system RIGHT NOW is a far greater disaster than 9/11, Katrina, and the Metrolink crash combined…and the Republican Conservatives (up to and including GWB) are _entirely_ responsible for this one! ([Glass-Steagall Act](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass-Steagall_Act), anyone?)

Nitpick:

[QUOTE=Wikipedia]  
Provisions that prohibit a bank holding company from owning other financial companies were repealed on November 12, 1999  
[/QUOTE]

…when Clinton was President.

Chick’s attitude towards the Jews confuses me. So the Jewish people and Israel are our immunization against God’s wrath? And then during the Rapture Faceless God will send most of them to Hell for not accepting Jesus? Bizarre. But at least there was a HAW HAW! in this one.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/32 "2008-11-09T18:14:02Z")

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[I told you in 2005](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6525772&postcount=14) but did you listen.. no.

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> Jews are responsible for hurricanes. How? Secret Jew magic! Spells concocted by devout orthodox New York Jews to publish unobservant Florida Jews.
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> Gays are responsible for tornadoes? How? Angry God! Where ever you find a tornado a queer is queening it up nearby.

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/33 "2008-11-09T18:29:39Z")

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> [@SpazCat](#):
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> …when Clinton was President.

Reverse nitpick:

> [@Wikipedia](#):
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> The final bipartisan bill resolving the differences was passed in the Senate 90-8-1 and in the House: 362-57-15. Without forcing a veto vote, this bipartisan, veto proof legislation was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 12, 1999. [emphasis mine; [cite](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass-Steagall_Act#Repeal_of_the_Act)]

In other words, Clinton did not veto the bill because there was no point – so many Congresspeople voted for it (no doubt guided by lobbyists from the banking industry) that they would have easily acquired the 2/3 vote to overturn his veto. Don’t even bother trying to pin this one on Bill Clinton (and he didn’t get us involved in Somalia, either!)

> [@astro](#):
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> [I told you in 2005](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6525772&postcount=14) but did you listen.. no.

Who’s responsible for earthquakes, then? (Did Jack Chick even mention earthquakes? I didn’t read the full strip…)

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/34 "2008-11-09T20:57:16Z")

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> [@KGS](#):
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> Reverse nitpick:  
> In other words, Clinton did not veto the bill because there was no point – so many Congresspeople voted for it (no doubt guided by lobbyists from the banking industry) that they would have easily acquired the 2/3 vote to overturn his veto. Don’t even bother trying to pin this one on Bill Clinton (and he didn’t get us involved in Somalia, either!)  
> Who’s responsible for earthquakes, then? (Did Jack Chick even mention earthquakes? I didn’t read the full strip…)

I won’t pin it on Clinton if you won’t pin everything on Bush. Fucking this country up is a bipartisan affair.

Last word on the matter.

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**Author:** ![BMax](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bmax/32/4267_2.png) [@BMax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMax)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/35 "2008-11-09T21:38:13Z")

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is it just me, or does Bush in panel 30 look like a grown-up Butthead?

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**Author:** ![Find\_Friends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@Find\_Friends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Find_Friends)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-much-smug-new-chick-tract-takes-an-original-tornado-oops-turn/471143/36 "2008-11-10T18:41:17Z")

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> [@BMax](#):
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> is it just me, or does Bush in panel 30 look like a grown-up Butthead?

:dubious:

Is not [Butthead](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Butthead.gif) too handsome for that? 😛

- “Jack”

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