Somebody please explain Fight Club to me...

I’m not going to bother answering your “review” because I don’t have the interest, but I must answer this.

The men went into the Fight Club seeking exhilaration through fighting, and they sure as hell got it.

“I’ve just realized that my job is immoral, and the material possessions I’ve accumulated don’t make me happy. My life has no real meaning. I need to make major changes in the way I live?”

Wonderful! So, you gonna quit your job, and go to work at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter?

“Nope.”

Well, are you going to dispose of your frivolous possessions, and live a simpler lifestyle?

“No.”

Well… how exactly ARE you going to change your life?

“I think I’ll get into a bunch of fistfights, and maybe beat myself to a pulp.”


If THAT strikes you as profound, if that even made SENSE to you, then “Fight CLub” is the movie for you.

Fight Club rocked. Every time I watch it (and I’ve now seen it several times) it gets better.

Clever, well-written, original. Ed Norton is brilliant.

It’s obviously not realistic, and I didn’t much care for the amount of violence, but I love it all the same.

“9 times out of 10 it’s an electric razor, but every once in a while…it’s a dildo.”

Of course it’s airline policy never to imply ownership in the event of a dildo. We have to use the indefinite article: a dildo, never your dildo."

Like I said before, I really dug this movie. I don’t take it too seriously of course, but I did like it.

And I do see the hypocrisy of it all. As beautifully illustrated by Jon Stewart of Daily Show fame, who made commentary on the movie when it was first released.
It went something like this:

(paraphrased)
“Brad Pitt publicly spoke against evils of consumerism and greed today… Then he jumped into his sports car, raced back to his mansion and slept with Jennifer Anniston.”

I think we are in agreement that both movies are based on the same initial premise: flawed perception of reality. Just like The Matrix and Dark City; the difference being that in the latter comparison the misconception of reality encompasses the whole of humanity, it is a collective delusion, a globally-shared dream.

In 6th sense and FC the erroneous interpretations are confined to a single individual, one a dead man who refuses to acknowledge his own mortality and the other a dude with an unconscious split-personality disorder, a guy who inadvertently contrived an evil doppelganger designed to explore his dark side and neglect any responsibility emanating from the actions resulting from its unleashing.

This, of course, serves as a metaphoric voyage into humanity’s dual nature, it exemplifies the psychological dualism characteristic of human beings, it revives the eternal struggle between good and evil, masterfully presenting such contrasting emotions clashing against each other within the confines of one perturbed individual. It posits a revival of the classic Jekill-Hyde argument: can two diametrically opposed elements coexist in a balanced and harmonic form or are they destined to annihilate each other?

In essence the Matrix-DarkCity and the 6th sense-FightClub pairs are inextricably connected. The elemental plot points along which lines the action revolves are basically the same. Sure, they are two completely different movies, where FC is smart 6th sense is nonsense, where FC makes a valid critique at society 6th sense just provides a rather unspectacular plot twist without presenting a satisfactorily conclusive ending–sure, Bruce Willis ends up fine but what about the damned kid, you don’t think that the ghosts are going to stop bothering him just because the director decided to end the movie at that point, do you?

Simply no way, the kid is for all practical purposes their slave. If he doesn’t help them they will physically hurt him. He didn’t solve his problem, he understood it. Big deal. I have said it before and I will say it again, that movie is the most overrated, over-hyped, mass marketed piece of crap since the Sixers drafted Shawn Bradley. I think even Monfort will agree with me on that one.

Anyway, I liked both movies. They entertained me. That’s all I asked a movie to do. Sure, 6th sense was stupid but so was Naked Gun and it rocked. At least Naked Gun didn’t pretend to be smart, which was all that 6th sense ever did, pretend, it never evolved into an intelligent, reasonably believable and enticing story. It got stuck in the trick ending mentality and forgot about concocting a decent storyline for the rest of the movie.

Fight Club, on the other hand, entertains and in the process activates your neurological patterns and focus them on relevant stuff–a critique on society. It is a smart psychological drama as opposed to its weak plotted counterpart. I mean, I am all for suspension of disbelief but how in the world are you supposed to digest the “fact” that dead people retain their memories after their brains stop functioning. Where do those recollections reside? A soul? Come on, you can come up with something better than a hypothetical construct created out of thin air by dogmatic, reason-neglecting individuals.

Besides, in my book consciousness = life. If you are aware of your own existence (even if that awareness is flawed) you are a living being. You might not be alive in the traditional sense (biologically) but you are alive in some spectral, spiritual, obi-wan-kenobesque way. Therefore you are not dead, and a kid who sees dead people can not possibly see you. Thus the argument on which the movie is edified falls apart and blows up in the director’s face.

Connor, Headshock, Seriousart

I previously said:

*It’s a deliberate steal of the basic premise from The Fight Club. Just replace Edward Norton for Bruce Willis and you should have a pretty good idea of what the movie is all about. *

I am being ironic here. I am just criticizing the fact that I thought that one of the movies was being ripped-off. Maybe I should have been more explicit and less ambiguous. I erroneously assumed that, based on the tone of the initial sentence, it would be inferred that the second one was, via a ridiculous comment, supporting the claim against the unethical and originality-murdering rip-off that I assumed took place.

Hope this clears up any confusion stemming from my previous comments!

Headshock

You forgot to mention:

Second rule of Fight Club: you don’t post about Fight Club.

Now stop posting about Fight Club or I will go kick your ass. :smiley:

Sequel to The Sixth Sense due soon in theaters!

Entitled “The Seventh Sense: I smell dead people farts!.” Whereas in the original version the kid saw dead people, he has now developed brand new powers and can smell dead people’s gaseous emanations. Now that should prove to be a most interesting concept to seriously treat in a movie. :smiley:

Needless to say, that ain’t happening anytime soon. ::sigh::

…activates your neurological patterns and focuSES them…

I really nead to get some sleep now. ZZZZZ!

Right. Because this is movie ABOUT people trying to find meaning by beating each other up, it is a movie ADVOCATING people looking for meaning by beating each other up.
Christ, isn’t “Jack” the ulimate unreliable narrator?

Nope, sorry, I won’t. The most overrated, over-hyped, mass marketed piece of crap was Forrest Gump. Anyone who wishes to disagree with me on that one is welcome to do so in the Pit, not here.

But, I will concur 100% on Shawn Bradley. What were they thinking? :confused:

In my opinion, and this is just my opinion, it’s more like:

Well . . . how exactly ARE you going to change your life?

“I think that I’ll develop some severely schizophrenic mental split which results in the creation of a second personality, one that comes out when I am ostensibly asleep and specializes in making bad decisions. Not only that, he also excels at attracting other people who make bad decisions, too.”

I wrote:

My mistake, that was destined for Seriousart, not Headshock.

Does making a correction on a post ABOUT Fight Club count as posting about Fight Club?

Hope not, otherwise I will have to kick my own ass. Auch!

Well, do it while accusing your boss of a lot of false, heinous things. You might get a nice severance settlement out of it. :slight_smile: