# Somebody set off a bomb in a Target Womens' Room **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 9, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949 "2016-06-09T18:41:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/101 "2016-06-11T19:50:28Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > So what? He supplied that quote that put the issue on the table. So the issue of transgender was, indeed, raised in the OP. No, it was raised by the investigating authorities and was a basic fact in the case at the time. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/102 "2016-06-11T20:22:15Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > No, it was raised by the investigating authorities and was a basic fact in the case at the time. It was either raised in the Original Post or it wasn’t. How can we determine if it was or wasn’t, for sure? Here’s an idea, let’s look at the OP. Here it is, verbatim: [QUOTE=Merneith] Somebody set off a bomb in a Target Womens’ Room No one was hurt. It was a small bomb. Evanston, IL. I’m so angry I can’t even talk. [http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...athroom-policy](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...athroom-policy) > [@](#): > > Officials were investigating whether a small bomb that went off Wednesday in the bathroom of an Illinois Target was planted in response to the store’s policy allowing **transgender people** to use the bathroom of their choice, WGN reported. > > Evanston Police Commander Joe Dugan told WGN that the bathroom was empty when the explosion rattled through the women’s restroom around 4 p.m. and that no one was injured. > > Officials were still gathering evidence and reviewing store security camera footage, Dugan said. They’ve determined that the explosive device, which involved a plastic bottle, was homemade. [/QUOTE] (emphasis mine: :eek:) So if one wants to determine if a thought was included in the OP or not, he/she need only to look at the OP. Hint: look for the bolded portion. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/103 "2016-06-11T20:31:56Z")
Okay, how would you have quoted from the original story? ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/104 "2016-06-11T21:56:17Z")
**We have an arrest.** [http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/evanston/crime/ct-evr-evanston-target-bathroom-explosion-tl-0616-20160611-story.html](http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/evanston/crime/ct-evr-evanston-target-bathroom-explosion-tl-0616-20160611-story.html) > [@](#): > > Heidi E. Schmidt, 44, of the 4000 block of West Crystal Street in Chicago, appeared at the Leighton Criminal Courts Building Saturday where her bail was set by a Cook County judge. > > Police said in a news release that they discovered through the course of their investigation that Schmidt was inside the stall at the time the incident occurred based on witness accounts and surveillance footage. The department received assistance during the investigation from the Cook County Bomb Squad. A plastic bottle, believed to be the source of the explosion upon initial examination, was recovered from the stall in addition to \*\*“items that are commonly combined in a method to produce a chemical high, but during the mixture process can become volatile and explode,” \*\*according to the release. Police said Schmidt was uninjured during the incident and left the area before police and fire departments arrived. She was cooking Meth. No political context at all. Just a junkie. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/105 "2016-06-11T22:48:56Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > It was either raised in the Original Post or it wasn’t. How can we determine if it was or wasn’t, for sure? Here’s an idea, let’s look at the OP. Here it is, verbatim: > > (emphasis mine: :eek:) > > So if one wants to determine if a thought was included in the OP or not, he/she need only to look at the OP. Hint: look for the bolded portion. People seem to be really confused about this. Stupid people, I mean. I’ve already explained this once, but I’ll try again. At the time I posted this thread, police were investigating whether a bomb in a Target bathroom was related to the ongoing right-wing bullshit about Target’s announcement that Transgender people were welcome to whatever bathroom they felt was appropriate. That was the state of play when I wrote my OP. That’s what I was angry about. Later, I updated saying that the police had a woman in custody and that they didn’t think it was related to the right-wing campaign against Target. Since then, it’s been determined that it was a) not bomb, but a drug process and b) the perp was not a right-wing terrorist but a junkie. (Not mutually exclusive, I know). I posted a third time, apologizing for spreading bad information but it was accurate when it was reported. I also pointed out that I didn’t even know that one could make meth in a handy portable bottle. I mean, it was reported that they had the bomb squad out and that it had been a small explosive device. And I mean, it’s not like right-wing The reader’s digest version is that right-wing morons are pissy because I thought, based on the initial reported evidence, that right-wing morons bombed a Target bathroom because of their transgendered. Turns out it was just a junkie with a convenient travel-sized meth bottle. I’ve already apologized once for spreading false info - although like I’ve said, it’s what was reported initially. Right wing morons are just easily confused, I suppose. Well, I mean, they are morons. And, I mean, it’s not like right-wing morons haven’t been on a rampage in Target stores for months now. Aside from the random fire & brimstone preaching sessions, randomly harassing women who don’t look sufficiently feminine, and bomb threats that have been reported around the country, the idea that right-wing morons might decide to use an actual bomb is not far fetched. If right-wing terrorists decided to actual bomb their “foes” - well, it wouldn’t be the first time, would it. If Right-Wing Morons don’t want to be associated with terroristm, they should a better job policing their own activities. So when I read that police were investigating a bombing at a Target store and looking into conncetions with the latest right-wing moron movement - yeah. I got a little pissed off about. Deal. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/106 "2016-06-11T22:57:58Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > People seem to be really confused about this. Stupid people, I mean. I’ve already explained this once, but I’ll try again. Not going to help. It’s just a few posters who want to have control over what is acceptable as thread material. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/107 "2016-06-12T04:35:04Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > I’ve already apologized once for spreading false info - although like I’ve said, it’s what was reported initially. Wouldn’t the simplest solution be to not post false information in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/108 "2016-06-12T04:42:25Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Wouldn’t the simplest solution be to not post false information in the first place? It wasn’t known to be false at the time. And it was the officials who released the mistaken information to begin with. The simplest solution is for you not to be such a raging asshole in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/109 "2016-06-12T04:44:18Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It wasn’t known to be false at the time. And it was the officials who released the mistaken information to begin with. > > The simplest solution is for you not to be such a raging asshole in the first place. That’s asking an awful lot, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/110 "2016-06-12T04:48:49Z")
> [@beowulff](#): > > That’s asking an awful lot, isn’t it? A little Preparation H in the right place… ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/111 "2016-06-12T05:42:25Z")
You shouldn’t apologize for spreading false info. You should apologize for jumping to conclusions and being upset over a political narrative that wasn’t even accurate. And when others got on you for your presumptuous outrage, _they_ were the ones getting criticized. You **wanted** to a reason to get mad at the right-wing loonies and claim they are violent. Pushing a narrative at the expense of the truth is all too common these days. In essence, you pitted yourself with this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/112 "2016-06-12T20:01:47Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > You **wanted** to a reason to get mad at the right-wing loonies and claim they are violent. [They’re not?](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/watch-enraged-trump-supporters-attack-man-for-quietly-sitting-with-americas-already-great-sign/) ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/113 "2016-06-12T20:44:14Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > You shouldn’t apologize for spreading false info. > > You should apologize for jumping to conclusions and being upset over a political narrative that wasn’t even accurate. > > And when others got on you for your presumptuous outrage, _they_ were the ones getting criticized. > > You **wanted** to a reason to get mad at the right-wing loonies and claim they are violent. > > Pushing a narrative at the expense of the truth is all too common these days. In essence, you pitted yourself with this thread. Exactly right. Quick to jump the gun when the assumption is it’s a crazy, right wing, Christian loon. Nothing but crickets in the pit when an Islamic State supporter actually shoots 100 people. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/114 "2016-06-13T00:26:07Z")
Uh, that’s because one group actually holds substantial political power in this country, able to make persecution and discrimination the law of the land with not insubstantial popular support, while the other has to fight general societal disapproval, including amongst his own religion, in order to make spotty and isolated attacks (at least in America). ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/115 "2016-06-13T03:46:30Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It wasn’t known to be false at the time. And it was the officials who released the mistaken information to begin with. Aren’t you aware that literally no one gives a shit about what you think, Gramps? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/116 "2016-06-13T03:55:13Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Aren’t you aware that literally no one gives a shit about what you think, Gramps? _Gramps_? That’s the best you can do? You should ask your mommy for help with insults. Next time she comes to your basement room for your nightly suckling would be good. I’ll wait. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/117 "2016-06-13T03:57:33Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > _Gramps_? That’s the best you can do? I saw the picture in your profile. “Gramps” describes it perfectly, old man. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/118 "2016-06-13T04:03:43Z")
Old wine is a fine wine. You’ll never be better than vinegar. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949/119 "2016-06-13T04:07:03Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Old wine is a fine wine. Not always. Enjoy your bingo game. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-set-off-a-bomb-in-a-target-womens-room/756949.md?page=5)