# Somebody summarize the debate for me **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 27, 2016, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034 "2016-09-27T14:02:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/81 "2016-09-27T18:57:42Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > […] > BTW, what the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch is stopping him from releasing his tax records from last year or any of the previous five or so years? Are they ALL being audited at the same time? :rolleyes: Three years. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/82 "2016-09-27T19:03:53Z")
> [@HookerChemical](#): > > Three years. Is there an official confirmation for that? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/83 "2016-09-27T19:27:29Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > The New York Times has [a pretty good summary](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/28/us/politics/debate-highlights.html). It seems that most people, Democratic and Republican alike agree that Clinton did better. Trump started out calmly for the first 20 minutes, but Clinton was able to get under his skin as the night went on and he got louder and more incoherent. He basically admitted that he doesn’t pay taxes and that he took advantage of the housing crisis because that was good business. He was questioned repeatedly about the birther conspiracy and rambled without a good defense. After the debate, Trump and his family didn’t look terribly happy and left the stage pretty quickly, while Hillary, Bill, and Chelsea stayed around and shook hands and looked pleased. Yep. It’s hard to say exactly where Trump lost it- after 15 minutes? 20 Minutes? 45 minutes? But it is clear he started out pretty Ok, when sticking to the issues. Once Hillary was able to land a couple attacks, Trump fell apart. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/84 "2016-09-27T19:30:51Z")
> [@GulfTiger](#): > > Basically a draw. > > . At the 30 minute mark, maybe. After that, Trump lost badly. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/85 "2016-09-27T19:31:58Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Is there an official confirmation for that? That’s the Statute of Limitations for a Tax Audit. there are exceptions. ---
**Author:** ![Neo-Calredic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/96bed5/32.png) [@Neo-Calredic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neo-Calredic)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/86 "2016-09-27T19:34:22Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > It’s not that. Bubbles are meant to burst. So it’s his conviction. ‘Rooting for’ or not doesn’t matter. So, if one of my parents has terminal cancer and I say I’m rooting for them to die so I can collect their insurance, that’s cool? I mean, their death is inevitable, so it doesn’t matter how I feel about it, right? It’s just business! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/87 "2016-09-27T19:56:21Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > That was a little weird since he wasn’t exactly criticizing her about that, he was rambling about something else, but it was a good line that she was waiting to use. And he certainly wasn’t able to refute it. Yeah, I had to look that up: > [@Trump](#): > > I’ve been all over the place. You decided to stay home, and that’s OK. But I will tell you, I’ve been all over. I think this is what she’s responding to. Trump is so incoherent that it’s hard to decipher his point sometimes, but I think he was saying, “this past week I’ve been out campaigning and you haven’t.” So I think Clinton’s takeaway was correct. She was overprepared in the beginning. Her opening statement really had me worried, as she kept pausing for just slightly too long as she remembered what her next sentence was. And then “Trumped Up Trickle Down” was a terrible terrible line, I’m sorry but it was. Fortunately she dispensed with the obviously canned lines fairly quickly and took out her switchblade. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/88 "2016-09-27T20:07:45Z")
> [@truthSeeker2](#): > > As a businessman, one always hopes to buy cheap and sell high. All that tells is that Trump is a smart businessman who realised housing sector was in a bubble. Let’s look at Clinton’s quote–to which Trump said, “That’s business, by the way”: > [@Clinton](#): > > In fact, Donald was one of the people who rooted for the housing crisis. He said, back in 2006, “Gee, I hope it does collapse, because then I can go in and buy some and make some money.” Well, it did collapse. Her quote isn’t exact–but [here’s the exact quote](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/26/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-says-donald-trump-rooted-housing-c/): > [@Trump in 2006 talking about the real-estate bubble](#): > > Well first of all, I sort of hope that happens because then people like me would go in and buy. You know, if you’re in a good cash position — which I’m in a good cash position today — then people like me would go in and buy like crazy It’s pretty clear he’s hoping for the misfortune of others, because it’ll make him money. Sure, that’s business. That’s cutthroat, shitty human being business. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/89 "2016-09-27T20:09:47Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Is there an official confirmation for that? [Yes.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOrgLj9lOwk) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/90 "2016-09-27T20:20:22Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > [Yes.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOrgLj9lOwk) Hope you like bunnies. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/91 "2016-09-27T20:24:48Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Hope you like bunnies. One rabbit stew, coming up! :eek: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/92 "2016-09-27T20:56:52Z")
Hollywood Reporter sez this debate was watched by 80 million people, making it the most watched debate ever. The previous most watched was the 1980 Carter - Reagan debate. > **[TV Ratings: Clinton-Trump Debate Tops 80-Million Record](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/debate-ratings-clinton-trump-showdown-932785/)** > > The debate will outrank the 1980 showing between Reagan and Carter as the most-watched ever. That’s entertainment! ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/93 "2016-09-27T21:09:25Z")
Here’s a funny, but still satirically accurate summary: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2016/09/27/last-nights-debate-or-the-mansplaining-olympics/?hpid=hp\_no-name\_opinion-card-b%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm\_term=.949c4c9859ed](https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2016/09/27/last-nights-debate-or-the-mansplaining-olympics/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-b%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.949c4c9859ed) > [@Chimera](#): > > Or as was said by a wise sage last night; > > “For Trump to win, he needed to avoid setting himself on fire. For Clinton to win, she needed to spontaneously evolve into a being of pure energy. So call it a draw.” Hillary Qlinton 2016! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/94 "2016-09-27T21:17:39Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No, he actually rooted for it, and even admitted it. He just admitted he doesn’t care if people are suffering if he can make a buck from it. I’m sorry but you’re wrong here, **iiandyiiii**. Mr. Trump stated emphatically that he is _in favor of people suffering_ if he can make a buck from it. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/95 "2016-09-27T21:25:10Z")
> [@GulfTiger](#): > > The biggest winner was her medical team. They got her to stand for 90 minutes. Impressive. > > [Modern med tech is amazing](http://i64.tinypic.com/2z5t6pi.jpg) Looks like the belt pack for a wireless mic to me. I think that’s the wire running from the edge of her hair to the collar. I could prolly find out who the A2 was on the job and ask him, but that sure looks like a belt pack to me. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/96 "2016-09-27T21:27:58Z")
> [@GulfTiger](#): > > Hilldog “Hilldog”? :dubious: :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/97 "2016-09-27T21:39:40Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > “Hilldog”? :dubious: > > :rolleyes: Not a reader of right wing message boards, I take it. It’s a standard slur on those places. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/98 "2016-09-27T22:29:10Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > Not a reader of right wing message boards, I take it. It’s a standard slur on those places. I encourage Trump to use it in his next debate. It will make him look more presidential. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/99 "2016-09-27T22:39:16Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Looks like the belt pack for a wireless mic to me. I think that’s the wire running from the edge of her hair to the collar. Those could be the buckles for a bulletproof vest. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2016, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034/100 "2016-09-27T22:45:45Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > “Hilldog”? :dubious: > > :rolleyes: That’s her rapper name. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/somebody-summarize-the-debate-for-me/767034.md?page=6)