# Someone snatched my Google **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 3, 2002, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788 "2002-09-03T12:21:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/1 "2002-09-03T12:21:55Z")
[dammit](http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=tech&cat=internet_portals_and_search_engines) here’s a link. What a pain in the ass. anybody have a search engine recomendation? ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/2 "2002-09-03T12:33:43Z")
You could try [www.teoma.com](http://www.teoma.com) or [www.dogpile.com](http://www.dogpile.com), although I’m not sure how good either one is at searching Chinese-language sites. ---
**Author:** ![kferr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kferr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kferr)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/3 "2002-09-03T12:37:34Z")
They snatched your Google because you spent too much time Googling for snatch. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/4 "2002-09-03T12:37:57Z")
I don’t care about the Chinese language sites, I only want english language. But thanks, I’ll check those out. Damn those octogenarian leaders. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/5 "2002-09-03T12:39:42Z")
What was their reasoning? Do they realise it’s one of many search engines, not a repository? Or are they scared of the cache function? Erasing the past being something this prevents… ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/6 "2002-09-03T12:40:26Z")
Dogpile is a metasearch engine - it searches over several search engines. (I should have mentioned that.) [I was wondering how long it would be before someone made that joke \*\*kferr\*\*!] ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/7 "2002-09-03T12:44:31Z")
They have issued no official statement on this as of yet, they merely did it. I would think it wouldn’t last forever. Hopefully google can get themselves back in good favor quick for you. ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/8 "2002-09-03T12:47:23Z")
> [@](#): > > Despite the apparent block on Google, Yahoo, which uses Google for searches, was still available in China Eh? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Reuben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@Reuben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reuben)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/9 "2002-09-03T12:58:06Z")
Looking at the [article on Slashdot](http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/02/09/02/0246224.shtml?tid=153), I note that one poster said : > [@](#): > > One of the explanation for the disappearance of GOOGLE in China is that the DNS has gone wrong, because you can easily access the GOOGLE with IP address. If a site is censored or blocked, the IP address should not work. But it is not true this time. So have you tried [http://216.239.39.101/](http://216.239.39.101/) ? ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/10 "2002-09-03T13:05:04Z")
Dogpile is a metasearch engine - it searches over several search engines. (I should have mentioned that.) [I was wondering how long it would be before someone made that joke \*\*kferr\*\*!] ---
**Author:** ![coosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@coosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coosa)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/11 "2002-09-03T13:55:57Z")
I read on another board that the Categories and Web Sites on Yahoo are Yahoo’s, but the Web Pages come straight from Google. Another search engine suggestion - can you access [the Open Directory Project](http://dmoz.org/)? I don’t really get much in the way of results from ODP, but doing a search there also triggers a search on Google, Alltheweb, Yahoo, HotBot, AltaVista, Netscape, and Northern Light. If you get a ‘no results’ search, there will be a box in the center of the page with links to the different Google sections (including Groups, Images), and a row of links to the other sites across the bottom. If you get results, the row of links to all of the other SEs will still be across the bottom. You don’t have to click the link and then start a new search; when you click the link you will go to the first page of your search, which has already been done. I don’t know if you can get to Google that way, but you can find an awful lot of information through that many SEs. Dogpile is good, but you only get the top ten results - through ODP you get the entire search. Yahoo has something similar at the bottom of their search pages, plus if you click the “More” link there, you will be taken to [this page](http://dir.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Internet/World_Wide_Web/Searching_the_Web/Search_Engines_and_Directories/). There you will find a link-list of the _top_ search engines, followed by an _alphabetical_ list of what must be just about every SE on the internet. Plus, under ‘Categories’ at the top of the page there is a link to “All-in-one-SEs” that takes you to a list of meta-SEs (like Dogpile) [here](http://dir.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Internet/World_Wide_Web/Searching_the_Web/Search_Engines_and_Directories/All_in_One_Search_Pages/). Another page with links to lots of different SEs: [here](http://hints-n-tips.com/search.htm) Also [Search Engine Watch](http://www.searchenginewatch.com/links/), where, under the category ‘Specialty SEs’, you will find a link to pages about the [Invisible Web](http://www.searchenginewatch.com/links/Specialty_Search_Engines/Invisible_Web/index.html), which is absolutely wonderful. Another really great place to check out is [Martindale’s Reference Desk](http://www-sci.lib.uci.edu/HSG/Ref.html), from which you may never escape. Where else can you find the Global Tide and Current Predictor, Global Lightning Distribution, the Atmospheric Radiation Measurement, the Solar Wind Update, and the Auroral Activity Report? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/12 "2002-09-03T14:01:17Z")
With Dogpile, you only get the top 10 results on the first page - you just click “more results from” to get the more of 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/13 "2002-09-03T14:08:06Z")
Does [http://www.alltheweb.com/](http://www.alltheweb.com/) work for you? Or Jeeves (don’t laugh, it’s better than nothing). [http://www.ask.com/](http://www.ask.com/) Shall we send you other links, a sort of emergency link CARE package? I saw the news blurb, too, and I went, “Huh?” too. [http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/09/02/china.google.reut/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/09/02/china.google.reut/index.html) > [@](#): > > China reportedly blocks Google access > September 2, 2002 Posted: 8:21 AM EDT (1221 GMT) > > BEIJING, China (Reuters) – China appears to have blocked leading search engine Google, sparking speculation of a crackdown on Internet content viewed as subversive ahead of a Communist Party congress in November. > > \< snip \> > > \*\*Despite the apparent block on Google, Yahoo, which uses Google for searches, was still available in China. \*\* I mean, huh? Anyway, I’m not an “old China hand”, but my guess would be that somebody High Up just wants to send a message to somebody else High Up. “See? Down with the Yankee capitalist running dogs, we have shut their vile Internet search engine _off_…” while in reality it’s business as usual, with everyone shrugging and finding ways around it. It’s called “having your cake and eating it, too”. 😃 They can send an anti-Western message and still have the Internet. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/14 "2002-09-03T14:25:01Z")
I suggest you complain about this to your local representative, then jump out a first story police precinct window, dying tragically of a caved-in skull in a five foot fall. ---
**Author:** ![Dryga\_Yes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@Dryga\_Yes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dryga_Yes)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/15 "2002-09-03T14:56:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \* > **Anyway, I’m not an “old China hand”, but my guess would be that somebody High Up just wants to send a message to somebody else High Up. “See? Down with the Yankee capitalist running dogs, we have shut their vile Internet search engine _off_…” while in reality it’s business as usual, with everyone shrugging and finding ways around it.** Missed the point. Google is blocked because of its cache function – if you wanted to access some other banned webpage, you could just search for it on google and read the stored version from there. Yahoo! uses google for searches, but it doesn’t support reading cached webpages. ---
**Author:** ![Obvious\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Obvious\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Obvious_Guy)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/16 "2002-09-03T17:12:57Z")
I alternate between Google and Hotbot [www.hotbot.com](http://www.hotbot.com) ---
**Author:** ![monica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a183cd/32.png) [@monica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monica)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2002, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/17 "2002-09-03T22:56:47Z")
[www.ask.com](http://www.ask.com) [www.dogpile.com](http://www.dogpile.com) [www.metacrawler.com](http://www.metacrawler.com) ---
**Author:** ![coosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@coosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coosa)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2002, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/18 "2002-09-04T00:45:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dantheman \* > \*\*With Dogpile, you only get the top 10 results on the first page - you just click “more results from” to get the more of 'em. \*\* Well, I knew that, I just don’t usually get that good of a result from Dogpile. I suppose it depends on what you are searching for - I rarely get even the 10 minimum hits they offer. Clicking on ‘more results’ just repeats the ones already listed, and an invitation to do a new search! ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2002, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/19 "2002-09-04T02:17:50Z")
**China Guy** , have you ever considered using an anonymous secure proxy? Or is that even an option? ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2002, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788/20 "2002-09-04T05:14:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kferr \* > They snatched your Google because you spent too much time Googling for snatch. 😉 Yuck, yuck. You do understand that we’re not talking about someone’s boss cracking down on employees who are surfing for porn when they should be working–we’re talking about the leadership of an entire country attempting to control the flow of information and stiffle the development of a free political system? > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Osiris \* > I would think it wouldn’t last forever. Hopefully google can get themselves back in good favor quick for you. If that means “Google knuckles under and assists the Chinese leadership in politically repressing the Chinese people”, then I certainly hope not. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-snatched-my-google/126788.md?page=2)