# Someone Tried to Take a Peacock on an Airplane

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 30, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826 "2018-01-30T19:22:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/21 "2018-01-31T01:32:16Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> You know people put little kids and babies in there too, right? And have been for way longer than with dogs? Just assume the cart is covered in germs and don’t eat something that has been touching the seat without washing it.

The vast majority of humans that I’ve ever seen sitting in a shopping cart _where the food goes_ (not the seat) have had clothing that covered their ass, wiped or unwiped tho it may be. In fact, I’d say that number is at or at least approaches 100%.

If I had any confidence at all that these folks were wiping the cart later with sanitizer, I’d have no problem with them, but I have zero confidence that they do that. Zero. Because the handful I’ve watched leave the building have never done it.

**Lightray** , I am all for service animals. I have no problem with them any more than I have problems with wheelchairs, crutches, etc.

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/22 "2018-01-31T01:58:56Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> **Lightray** , I am all for service animals. I have no problem with them any more than I have problems with wheelchairs, crutches, etc.

Didn’t mean to imply you were! I’m just sensitive to those distinctions getting blurred, from my days in the not-for-profit/rehab world. People tend to lump “support” animals into the “service” category for their own benefit, to the detriment of actual service animals. So I occasionally haul out the ol’ soapbox, for old times’ sake.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/23 "2018-01-31T02:06:48Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I am, shall I say, not a fan of dubious “service” animals. I’ve seen, on multiple occasions, people in grocery stores/Costco holding their dog so his ass is right over produce and holding a dog who sneezes over produce, but a new one I’ve seen twice in the last week is people putting their dog in the shopping cart. You know, the part where other people later will put produce they intend to handle with their hands and maybe put in their mouth.
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> I don’t know your dog; I don’t even particularly want to know your dog. And I certainly don’t want to know his poop and/or slobber that he’s gonna leave in that cart.
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> Get a fucking clue, people: it’s not YOUR world.

I know there is a big difference, but for the same reason, I don’t use the ‘seat’ part of a grocery cart for anything. Dirty diapers anyone?

I’ve only seen one therapy animal on a plane. Very well behaved Lab. What stunned me is the person bringing it aboard not only had to take care of getting her dog boarded, but her carryon and her McDonalds complete with drink. Good lord, if your hands are THAT full, you should have finished eating before getting on the plane. A tiny bit of planning, goes a long, long way.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/24 "2018-01-31T02:35:56Z")

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> [@Lizard](#):
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> Kind of like when I can see someone who can walk just fine get out of his/her car with the sticker on it and in the handicapped space, then stroll into the store. Uh, that privilege is for people with REAL NEED @$$hole.

I don’t want to derail the thread, but you can actually tell from looking at a person getting out of a car whether they need to use the handicapped space or not? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![installLSC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/54ee81/32.png) [@installLSC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/installLSC)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/25 "2018-01-31T03:04:00Z")

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[The only peacock that should be allowed on an airplane.](http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1042541/thumbs/o-FRANK-THORNTON-570.jpg?6)

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/26 "2018-01-31T03:10:09Z")

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Most places nowadays seem to have wet wipes by the buggies so you can wipe them off before you use them. I still, however, don’t think you need to put your “support ferret” in the freaking thing.

> [@Lizard](#):
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> The whole “emotional support animal” thing has gotten out of hand. I have become convinced there are so many people faking this just so they can carry their pets everywhere that I just ASSUME anyone with an animal is a fraud. Jeezus. Kind of like when I can see someone who can walk just fine get out of his/her car with the sticker on it and in the handicapped space, then stroll into the store. Uh, that privilege is for people with REAL NEED @$$hole.

[Invisible disability](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_disability) :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![SeniorCitizen007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@SeniorCitizen007](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeniorCitizen007)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/27 "2018-01-31T03:15:43Z")

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I boarded a crowded train, found an empty seat, sat down … on the seat beside me was a black cat. Just sitting the quietly as if being on crowded train was nothing unusual for it. A woman appeared, picked up the cat and sat down with it on her lap. She’d gone onto the platform to get a newspaper. We got talking … she made a living TRAINING CATS and gave public demonstrations of her ability to get them to do all sorts of things at her command. She claimed that one can get much “closer” to cats than one can with dogs.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/28 "2018-01-31T05:39:13Z")

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> [@GaryM](#):
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> Only dogs are service animals under the ADA Title II and Title III. At least according to Google results. Not turtles, not birds, not ferrets.

Airlines operate under the Air Carrier Access Act, which doesn’t specify that the animal has to be a dog. It does exclude ferrets, though.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/29 "2018-01-31T06:04:28Z")

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> [@Lightray](#):
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> Didn’t mean to imply you were! I’m just sensitive to those distinctions getting blurred, from my days in the not-for-profit/rehab world. People tend to lump “support” animals into the “service” category for their own benefit, to the detriment of actual service animals. So I occasionally haul out the ol’ soapbox, for old times’ sake.

I looked at it as more just my not being clear about that that prompted your comment, was all.

And yeah, that’s one of the things I dislike is that to some degree it may give real service animals a bad rep by association.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/30 "2018-01-31T06:37:12Z")

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> [@installLSC](#):
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> [The only peacock that should be allowed on an airplane.](http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1042541/thumbs/o-FRANK-THORNTON-570.jpg?6)

Gak! I don’t think I would want to get on a plane with _that_ !

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/31 "2018-01-31T11:48:35Z")

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The real issue is how difficult it is to buckle up a peacock with a seatbelt.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/32 "2018-01-31T12:13:55Z")

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> [@SeniorCitizen007](#):
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> I boarded a crowded train, found an empty seat, sat down … on the seat beside me was a black cat. Just sitting the quietly as if being on crowded train was nothing unusual for it. A woman appeared, picked up the cat and sat down with it on her lap. She’d gone onto the platform to get a newspaper. We got talking … she made a living TRAINING CATS and gave public demonstrations of her ability to get them to do all sorts of things at her command. She claimed that one can get much “closer” to cats than one can with dogs.

That is awesome but it’s somewhat disturbing that a person would leave their animal (of any sort) on a train while getting off to buy a newspaper.

And peacocks are horrible, noisy, nasty birds. One may enjoy them from a distance but spending hours trapped on a plane with one would be a nightmare.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/33 "2018-01-31T13:30:34Z")

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Cracked recently had [an article about bullshit service/support animals,](http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2156-healthy-people-are-faking-disabilities-to-get-service-dog.html) including some input from a person who has one.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/34 "2018-01-31T13:50:10Z")

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> [@Machine\_Elf](#):
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> Cracked recently had [an article about bullshit service/support animals,](http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2156-healthy-people-are-faking-disabilities-to-get-service-dog.html) including some input from a person who has one.

Just wanted to add that, in my job I daily deal with people seeking disability benefits. IMO&E, the attitude/actions of the woman in that article (Ashley) may be on the extreme end, but are far from unique.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/35 "2018-01-31T13:55:17Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> holding a dog who sneezes over produce

Much preferable to the humans who sneeze, cough etc. over produce.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/36 "2018-01-31T14:03:58Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Much preferable to the humans who sneeze, cough etc. over produce.

Probably, but you pretty much have to let humans into your store. Dogs, not so much.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/37 "2018-01-31T14:44:19Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Much preferable to the humans who sneeze, cough etc. over produce.

But the the humans seem more likely than the dogs to dig out a wallet and pay for that produce.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/38 "2018-01-31T16:03:45Z")

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> [@Xema](#):
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> But the the humans seem more likely than the dogs to dig out a wallet and pay for that produce.

Or to realize that they about to sneeze on food and avert.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/39 "2018-01-31T16:41:17Z")

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> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#):
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> They said it was their emotional support animal.
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> My in-laws used to own a peacock. They are loud. An airplane is not the best place for them.
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> That said, I do wish the photo showed it wearing one of those orange vests.
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> [http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article197395089.html](http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article197395089.html)

In the Miami Herald article in the link, they say the passenger was a performance artist, so as davidm implied, this was a publicity stunt. Watch the video that someone shot of the passenger walking into the airport with the peacock on his head; it’s hilarious.

They ended up driving instead, which was probably their plan all along.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/40 "2018-01-31T17:22:42Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> The vast majority of humans that I’ve ever seen sitting in a shopping cart _where the food goes_ (not the seat) have had clothing that covered their ass, wiped or unwiped tho it may be. In fact, I’d say that number is at or at least approaches 100%.

It’s not their ass, it’s their feet. The kids stand in the cart in the same shoes that have stepped in God knows what.

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Or to realize that they about to sneeze on food and avert.

You’d \*like \*to think so, but you’d be surprised. :eek:

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