# Someone Tried to Take a Peacock on an Airplane **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 30, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826 "2018-01-30T19:22:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/61 "2018-02-04T02:11:51Z")
Every time I see this thread title, my brain goes to “Someone left the cake out in the rain.” ---
**Author:** ![KRC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/45deac/32.png) [@KRC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KRC)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/62 "2018-02-04T13:42:50Z")
When I was a kid a neighbor kept peacocks in his backyard and they yelled all day long. One of my sister’s friends came to visit and she asked what the noise was. My sister told her it was the local S & M parlor. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/63 "2018-02-04T15:04:41Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > Wow, what a horrible person. “Oh, I feel _so_ bad that I’m harming other people- but I’m still gonna keep doing it.” > [@Cracked](#): > > Even Ashley sees the other side now and again, like when she was on a flight to New York full of untrained “service dogs” barking their heads off and stewardesses trying vainly to quiet them all. I think I see what her room in hell will be like. When I was in my twenties living in an apartment complex there was a family with a blind daughter, about fifteen. She’d been premature and had her eyes burned out before they’d learned too much O[sub]2[/sub] can do that. There was a No Pets policy but the management had made an exception for her Bichon Frise. Her little guy was no trouble at all and I never even heard him bark outside their apartment. Most people had no priblem with him but one time when I walked up, a little snert about ten complained to her that they’d had to give their dog up when they’d moved to the complex. “I’d gladly trade my dog and my eyes for your eyes,” was her calm reply. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/64 "2018-02-04T17:21:25Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#): > > TBF the therapy animal thing is, I think, more of a US internal thing, so I’ve never seen it IRL - I live in London and have never even seen a dog or any other animals on a plane, though I’m sure they travel sometimes because they are allowed to. AFAICT it’s only dogs that are allowed to travel in the cabin and they have to be registered assistance dogs, by which they mean actually properly registered with [an international org](https://www.assistancedogsinternational.org/about-us/types-of-assistance-dogs/service-dog/), whose rules are fairly strict). The way the ADA was written, if you say that you need a service animal, and that this dog or miniature horse is your service animal, the merchant is required to take your word for it. We are officially, explicitly forbidden to ask for certification, unless the animal deficates, or physically threatens another person. In theory, this was to protect handicapped people who might accidentally have left their paperwork at home. In practice, it makes it easy for the fakers to abuse the system. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/65 "2018-02-04T17:45:43Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I don’t want to derail the thread, but you can actually tell from looking at a person getting out of a car whether they need to use the handicapped space or not? :dubious: No, actually, you can’t. > **[Don’t Judge By Appearances for Accessible Parking and Other Needs](https://invisibledisabilities.org/publications/accessibleparking/dontjudgebyappearances/)** > > Don't judge appearances. People with invisible disabilities don't LOOK like they have a disability. Don't judge appearances when you think you see someone ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2018, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/66 "2018-02-04T23:30:06Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Well, they’re doing the right thing going forward at least in checking papers. > > \*Delta Airlines recently made headlines for tightening its rules on emotional support animals. The airline announced it will check certification papers for purported service or support animals and their owners before allowing them to board, according to Forbes. The new policy takes effect March 1. > > In order to qualify, service animals must be trained to provide specific services in support of the owner, Forbes reported. Owners must have signed forms from a veterinarian and a doctor or mental health professional to bring an emotional support animal on board, and must certify the animal has been trained to behave in public.\* This works … only a health care professional can designate an animal as an emotional support animal … and once they do, they’re more than happy to put it in writing … the question remains how each state responds to the signed statements from another state … This does put the health care professional (and their license to practice) on the line for any abuse with this … so it’s very unlikely they will prescribe a crocodile as an emotional support animal … I have no idea how the courts are handling this … but it’s important to note that in most jurisdictions it’s strictly illegal to take an animal out of the wild and bring them into our homes … so we are confined to domesticated species and still this is treatment for an illness and not a hobby, the more common and convenient animals are used in this manner … something the local vet would work on … The peafowl angle in the OP makes me smile … I had a flock for some years and I thought the creatures delightful … a little weak in personality but just drop dead gorgeous … and the molt in the fall, that entire train comes off for the winter … I do believe they can be trained to be settled in a commercial airliner, they are not very excitable and never really “freak out” like some have speculated above … I think the airline had the duty to provide “reasonable accommodation” for the bird and allowed her to travel with it … EXCEPT … peafowl have no shit control, they go whenever … the ADA explicitly exemption shitting animals for it’s jurisdiction … and that’s sad, I would enjoy sharing a flight with a peacock … they’re cool birds … ETA: They’re only really noisy 24 hours a day for about three months a year … and they’re no where close to as loud as a locomotive whistle … either you get used to it or you can eat them … ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/67 "2018-02-05T14:15:53Z")
She was told three times that she could not bring the animal with her on the airplane, yet she showed up with it anyway. I applaud United Airlines for sticking to their guns and not letting her board with it. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/68 "2018-02-06T06:37:29Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > No, actually, you can’t. > > [https://invisibledisabilities.org/ida-books-pamphlets/accessibleparking/dontjudgebyappearances/](https://invisibledisabilities.org/ida-books-pamphlets/accessibleparking/dontjudgebyappearances/) That was his point. ---
**Author:** ![AllShookDown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d9b06d/32.png) [@AllShookDown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllShookDown)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/69 "2018-02-08T18:23:37Z")
One time I encountered a woman at my gate with \*\*two \*\*little dogs with their dubious vests on so I asked her if she was training them. “No.” Well, why do you need two of them then? “Ummm.” ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/70 "2018-02-08T18:32:25Z")
At least no one “encouraged” her to [flush her peacock down the toilet](http://www.syracuse.com/us-news/index.ssf/2018/02/hamster_flushed_toilet_spirit_airlines.html) as a condition for boarding. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/71 "2018-02-08T18:42:14Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I don’t want to derail the thread, but you can actually tell from looking at a person getting out of a car whether they need to use the handicapped space or not? :dubious: > [@Clothahump](#): > > No, actually, you can’t. > > [https://invisibledisabilities.org/ida-books-pamphlets/accessibleparking/dontjudgebyappearances/](https://invisibledisabilities.org/ida-books-pamphlets/accessibleparking/dontjudgebyappearances/) > [@Guinastasia](#): > > That was his point. Right. My point exactly. I have a permanent handicap plate on my car that grants me the privilege of using handicapped spaces. **Lizard** couldn’t tell by looking at me whether I need to use it, and I doubt he could tell by looking at anyone else, either. As long as the vehicle sports a handicapped plate or a card hanging from the rear view mirror, MYOB. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/72 "2018-02-08T18:46:01Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > At least no one “encouraged” her to [flush her peacock down the toilet](http://www.syracuse.com/us-news/index.ssf/2018/02/hamster_flushed_toilet_spirit_airlines.html) as a condition for boarding. I wouldn’t rush to judgment on this. She may have panicked and, not seeing any other solution, decided to do that on her own. Spirit may simply be “the fall guy” she is using to get off the hook. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/73 "2018-02-09T01:13:22Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > At least no one “encouraged” her to [flush her peacock down the toilet](http://www.syracuse.com/us-news/index.ssf/2018/02/hamster_flushed_toilet_spirit_airlines.html) as a condition for boarding. That girl is not right in the head. She is clearly disturbed and is angling to get a nice payout by claiming the airlines told her to flush her hamster. And then she did! Fucking moron! I bet if someone told her to jump out of the airplane she would have done so too. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/74 "2018-02-09T15:50:43Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > At least no one “encouraged” her to [flush her peacock down the toilet](http://www.syracuse.com/us-news/index.ssf/2018/02/hamster_flushed_toilet_spirit_airlines.html) as a condition for boarding. Honestly, just when I thought that my faith in humanity couldn’t get any lower, something like this happens to kill my soul a little more. I really truly hope this is an elaborate hoax. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/75 "2018-02-09T16:39:34Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > I wouldn’t rush to judgment on this. She may have panicked and, not seeing any other solution, decided to do that on her own. Spirit may simply be “the fall guy” she is using to get off the hook. Almost certainly. I’ve been security at a number of Cons and we would tell someone, "I’m not going to tell you what to do with that but you can’t {do}{wear}{carry} that here at the Con. I can’t imagine TSA being any less professional than us eager volunteers. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/76 "2018-02-09T16:42:47Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > At least no one “encouraged” her to [flush her peacock down the toilet](http://www.syracuse.com/us-news/index.ssf/2018/02/hamster_flushed_toilet_spirit_airlines.html) as a condition for boarding. I’ll give up my emotional support hamster when they pry it from my gnawed, bleeding hands. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/77 "2018-02-09T17:40:31Z")
Are hamsters bigger than gerbils? It seems like all concerned overlooked the obvious solution here. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/78 "2018-02-09T19:15:19Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > At least no one “encouraged” her to [flush her peacock down the toilet](http://www.syracuse.com/us-news/index.ssf/2018/02/hamster_flushed_toilet_spirit_airlines.html) as a condition for boarding. At least the peacock can cry, “HELP! HELP!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/79 "2018-02-09T19:43:58Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Are hamsters bigger than gerbils? > It seems like all concerned overlooked the obvious solution here. Listen, bub, why don’t you take your suggestion & shove it up you…ohhh. 😉 Actually, it was [this](https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/478/is-it-true-what-they-say-about-gerbils/) column that got me interested in the Dope many years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-tried-to-take-a-peacock-on-an-airplane/807826/80 "2018-02-10T18:01:02Z")
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