# Something for Conservatives

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 15, 2018, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671 "2018-01-15T08:05:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/181 "2018-01-24T04:39:02Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> That’s not my _claim_, that’s what was reported by the FBI. I’m sorry that it sailed over your head.

Jeebus, not this again.

Cite, please; said citation should also mention what specific charge Mrs. Clinton was convicted of that made her a felon, and when and where the trial took place, since everyone except you seems to have missed this important news.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/182 "2018-01-24T04:39:35Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> That’s not my _claim_, that’s what was reported by the FBI. I’m sorry that it sailed over your head.

More lies. What happened to that honesty you touted on your school blog?  
It was very specifically stated that it did not rise to the level of _criminal_ intent.  
Why would any prosecutor not charge a felony?

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/183 "2018-01-24T04:41:57Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> People laughed at Einstein and the Wright Brothers.
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> They also laughed at Bozo the Clown.

Bozo the Clown laughs at **Clothahump**.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/184 "2018-01-24T10:29:38Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Jeebus, not this again.
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> Cite, please; said citation should also mention what specific charge Mrs. Clinton was convicted of that made her a felon, and when and where the trial took place, since everyone except you seems to have missed this important news.

Apparently it sailed over **Clothahump** ’s head and hit him right in the small of the back.

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**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/185 "2018-01-24T16:28:30Z")

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I have no idea why this is about Clothahump all of a sudden.

I have a general problem with the article. Not Mike Rowe or his personal opinion, it’s just articles like these determine “who the winner is” by who talks last. This wasn’t even two people talking directly to each other.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/186 "2018-01-27T19:35:57Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Jeebus, not this again.
> 
> Cite, please; said citation should also mention what specific charge Mrs. Clinton was convicted of that made her a felon, and when and where the trial took place, since everyone except you seems to have missed this important news.

Oh, good grief, not this stupidity from you people again.

Let’s try it one more time, although I know I’ll probably get the same ration of shit that I did earlier: A felon is one who commits a felony. There’s nothing in that definition about arrest, trial, conviction or anything else. It’s simply the act of committing the felony that makes one a felon.

The FBI report showed that Clinton committed over 100 felonies with her email server. Deal with it.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/187 "2018-01-27T19:46:21Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> …
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> The FBI report showed that Clinton committed over 100 felonies with her email server. Deal with it.

Listen up. We don’t give a flying fruitbat about Clinton. I don’t think many, if any, or us care if they lock her up or not. We supported her because the other candidate was dumber than a truckload of Clothahumps.

So, go ahead, lock her up.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/188 "2018-01-27T19:46:25Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Oh, good grief, not this stupidity from you people again.
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> Let’s try it one more time, although I know I’ll probably get the same ration of shit that I did earlier: A felon is one who commits a felony. There’s nothing in that definition about arrest, trial, conviction or anything else. It’s simply the act of committing the felony that makes one a felon.
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> The FBI report showed that Clinton committed over 100 felonies with her email server. Deal with it.

This is false; the FBI report did not show this. I’ve been working with classified information for the military for almost 20 years, both as active duty and civilian military, and that type of mishandling (which is incredibly common) is not prosecuted unless it’s done in order to profit (i.e. selling classified information) or for treason (i.e. giving to our enemies). If it’s just done out of carelessness or negligence, individuals are disciplined and retrained, and if it continues, demoted to non-classified positions or fired. But not prosecuted.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/189 "2018-01-27T22:16:32Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> This is false; the FBI report did not show this. I’ve been working with classified information for the military for almost 20 years, both as active duty and civilian military, and that type of mishandling (which is incredibly common) is not prosecuted unless it’s done in order to profit (i.e. selling classified information) or for treason (i.e. giving to our enemies). If it’s just done out of carelessness or negligence, individuals are disciplined and retrained, and if it continues, demoted to non-classified positions or fired. But not prosecuted.

By definition, it’s still a felony. She should have been prosecuted. But she got a pass and I doubt anything will ever be done, and she’ll get away with it because she’s the ghodess Hillary.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/190 "2018-01-27T22:21:28Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> By definition, it’s still a felony. She should have been prosecuted. But she got a pass and I doubt anything will ever be done, and she’ll get away with it because she’s the ghodess Hillary.

**iiandyiiii** says it’s “incredibly common”.  
What’s your explanation for why the others weren’t charged? Some sort of time travel “Hilary-effect”? Or is it possible it’s not the big deal you’re making it out to be?  
If Trump had done this, would you be demanding his prosecution?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/191 "2018-01-27T22:22:32Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> By definition, it’s still a felony. She should have been prosecuted. But she got a pass and I doubt anything will ever be done, and she’ll get away with it because she’s the ghodess Hillary.

By definition, you’re a fucking imbecile.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/192 "2018-01-27T22:23:11Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> By definition, it’s still a felony. She should have been prosecuted. But she got a pass and I doubt anything will ever be done, and she’ll get away with it because she’s the ghodess Hillary.

No, it’s not a felony by definition. This is false. She didn’t commit a felony. Some guy saying it on the internet doesn’t make it true.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/193 "2018-01-27T22:48:27Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> No, it’s not a felony by definition. This is false. She didn’t commit a felony. Some guy saying it on the internet doesn’t make it true.

How many times have we had this conversation with C’hump? I admire your commitment but I think it’s time to consider cutting your losses. Trying to reason with him is like trying to reason with a bollard.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/194 "2018-01-27T22:50:38Z")

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I’d rather reason with the bollard. It would be far more productive.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/195 "2018-01-27T23:12:57Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> If Trump had done this

_If?_ What about that little thing about personally passing classified info to some Russians?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/196 "2018-01-27T23:19:28Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> _If?_ What about that little thing about personally passing classified info to some Russians?

[**Clothy**] Wasn’t e-mail! Fake News! Commies are our friends! Clinton did something![/ **Clothy**]

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/197 "2018-01-27T23:19:59Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> _If?_ What about that little thing about personally passing classified info to some Russians?

When a Republican president does it…

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/198 "2018-01-28T00:12:28Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> By definition, it’s still a felony. She should have been prosecuted. But she got a pass and I doubt anything will ever be done, and she’ll get away with it because she’s the ghodess Hillary.

Tell me, sabonim, how much experience do you have with the handling of classified information?

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/199 "2018-01-28T01:31:37Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> No, it’s not a felony by definition. This is false. She didn’t commit a felony. Some guy saying it on the internet doesn’t make it true.

Sigh. It’s not “some guy”. It was the director of the FBI in his report.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/200 "2018-01-28T01:34:27Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Sigh. It’s not “some guy”. It was the director of the FBI in his report.

Quote it, then.  
Then explain why he didn’t recommend charges. Is it really that common for a clear felony to be not charged?  
Then explain why he said that it didn’t rise to a criminal level.

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