# Something for Conservatives

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 15, 2018, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671 "2018-01-15T08:05:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/161 "2018-01-22T13:18:25Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> I really hate to disillusion you, but I have a life. I don’t just sit by the computer all day waiting for you chimps to throw crap at me.

And yet you post as much as almost anyone on the board. How does that work?

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/162 "2018-01-22T15:24:41Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Just going to repost this:
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> And he’s added a few more to the pile since then.
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> I particularly love how he posted the definition of the Dunning-Kruger effect and yet, despite his repeated assertions that he’s smarter than everyone here and is winning (“Winning!”) all arguments and his wilful blindness surrounding all the substantive posts (which he claims don’t exist) refuting his various claims of liberal stupidity, he thinks it doesn’t apply to him.
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> His level of impenetrable ignorance is a marvel to behold. “Illusory superiority” at its best.

Dude, I can’t help it if I’m right all the time and it pisses you off. That’s your problem, not mine.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/163 "2018-01-22T15:29:52Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Dude, I can’t help it if I’m right all the time and it pisses you off. That’s your problem, not mine.

I get it. If you think you’re right, you’re not really lying.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/164 "2018-01-22T15:33:30Z")

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Problem is, **Clothahump** , you’re not always right, despite your assertion to the contrary. But you won’t even entertain the notion that that’s not the case. That’s why people bring up cognitive dissonance or Dunning-Kruger. Why will you not even conceive that you may be wrong from time to time? There’s nothing wrong with admitting an error.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/165 "2018-01-22T15:36:42Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Problem is, **Clothahump** , you’re not always right, despite your assertion to the contrary. But you won’t even entertain the notion that that’s not the case. That’s why people bring up cognitive dissonance or Dunning-Kruger. Why will you not even conceive that you may be wrong from time to time? **There’s nothing wrong with admitting an error**.

That would mean liberals win. Inconceivable!

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/166 "2018-01-22T15:58:28Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Dude, I can’t help it if I’m right all the time and it pisses you off. That’s your problem, not mine.

Go fleece a kid you boob.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/167 "2018-01-22T16:14:02Z")

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When it comes to trolls getting the facts right doesn’t make them right.  
Pissing people off makes them right.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/168 "2018-01-22T16:15:48Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Dude, I can’t help it if I’m right all the time and it pisses you off. That’s your problem, not mine.

Yeah, like that time you claimed that the stock market was stagnant under Obama and then surged under Trump - oh wait, that turned out to be the opposite of reality.

Or that time you said jobs were up under Trump and they turned out to be down.

Or that time you said California didn’t have many conservatives in it and it was pointed out they had nearly as many Trump voters as Texas.

Or that time you said you were “right all the time”.

And that’s just _in the last week_.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/169 "2018-01-22T18:36:25Z")

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“I’m alt-right all the time and it pisses you off.”

FTFY

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/170 "2018-01-22T21:54:03Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Problem is, **Clothahump** , you’re not always right, despite your assertion to the contrary. But you won’t even entertain the notion that that’s not the case. That’s why people bring up cognitive dissonance or Dunning-Kruger. Why will you not even conceive that you may be wrong from time to time? There’s nothing wrong with admitting an error.

And when I make one, I admit it. I try to support my claims with cites and when I don’t have one, I try to make sure that people know that is my opinion only. Yeah, I’ve missed doing that a couple of times - mea culpa. But when the overwhelming response to a cite is to complain about the source, then I know something is fishy and my cite was probably correct, such as when people complain about FOX being the source, etc.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/171 "2018-01-22T22:00:02Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> And when I make one, I admit it. I try to support my claims with cites and when I don’t have one, I try to make sure that people know that is my opinion only. Yeah, I’ve missed doing that a couple of times - mea culpa. But when the overwhelming response to a cite is to complain about the source, then I know something is fishy and my cite was probably correct, such as when people complain about FOX being the source, etc.

Just another variation of “The more I piss people off, the more “right” I am”.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/172 "2018-01-22T22:03:01Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> And when I make one, I admit it. \*\* I try to support my claims with cites\*\* and when I don’t have one, I try to make sure that people know that is my opinion only. Yeah, I’ve missed doing that a couple of times - mea culpa. But when the overwhelming response to a cite is to complain about the source, then I know something is fishy and my cite was probably correct, such as when people complain about FOX being the source, etc.

Liar. Example: “When Obama was President, the stock market was stagnant.”  
No cite, just your bullshit assertion. No declaring it was an opinion.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/173 "2018-01-22T22:04:37Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> {…} But when the overwhelming response to a cite is to complain about the source, then I know something is fishy and my cite was probably correct, such as when people complain about FOX being the source, etc.

I know, I cite the Time Cube guy and people complain, so that’s how I know the Time Cube guy is right!  
Ya might want to reassess your truth seeking toolbox . . . maybe try adding an actual tool to it, just sayin’.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/174 "2018-01-22T22:19:29Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> It was probably insulting to five year olds worldwide.
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> I’ve pointed the fact that you argue like five year olds out repeatedly, and yet you people continue with the five year old tantrums. I thought it was funny at first, but now I seriously wonder about the level of arrested development you people are exhibiting.

I seriously hope that all this pathetic self-aggrandizement/childish insulting is making you feel good about yourself, because if you’re attempting to convince anybody else - and I mean _anybody else_ - that you’re not dumber than a small pile of dogshit, you’re failing _hard_.

They say you should show, not tell. There is nowhere this is more true than with regard to intelligence - the only thing that comes close is regarding honesty.

So far, if your _ **goal** _ was to look like a complete and total moron, you couldn’t do any better than what you’ve been doing.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/175 "2018-01-22T22:24:15Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> when the overwhelming response to a cite is to complain about the source, then I know something is fishy and my cite was probably correct, such as when people complain about FOX being the source, etc.

The same FOX [that allegedly created fake news on behest of the White House in an attempt to deflect attention from stories about Russians](http://www.businessinsider.com/rod-wheeler-seth-rich-murder-fox-news-lawsuit-2017-8)?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/176 "2018-01-22T22:25:03Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> And when I make one, I admit it. I try to support my claims with cites and when I don’t have one, I try to make sure that people know that is my opinion only. Yeah, I’ve missed doing that a couple of times - mea culpa. But when the overwhelming response to a cite is to complain about the source, then I know something is fishy and my cite was probably correct, such as when people complain about FOX being the source, etc.

I cited the Onion once, people laughed, that’s how I knew the Onion was right!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/177 "2018-01-22T22:30:25Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> when the overwhelming response to a cite is to complain about the source, then I know something is fishy and my cite was probably correct, such as when people complain about FOX being the source, etc.

The same FOX [that declared Mr. Rogers “evil”](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-most-ridiculous-moments_us_5613f517e4b022a4ce5f9310)?

The same FOX [that has a history of using misleading (or outright _wrong_) graphs & charts](https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2012/10/01/a-history-of-dishonest-fox-charts/190225)?

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/178 "2018-01-22T23:37:48Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Liar. Example: “When Obama was President, the stock market was stagnant.”  
> No cite, just your bullshit assertion. No declaring it was an opinion.

Here’s another: “Hillary Clinton is a felon.”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/179 "2018-01-23T00:31:13Z")

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People laughed at Einstein and the Wright Brothers.

They also laughed at Bozo the Clown.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-for-conservatives/806671/180 "2018-01-24T04:32:38Z")

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> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#):
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> Here’s another: “Hillary Clinton is a felon.”

That’s not my _claim_, that’s what was reported by the FBI. I’m sorry that it sailed over your head.

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