# Something happen to the crazy 9/11 Truth thread?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 6, 2007, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621 "2007-08-06T14:33:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/1 "2007-08-06T14:33:23Z")

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Just what is says. There was a new crazy “towers were blown up” thread in GD. It’s gone. Was it deleted or am I blind? Why?

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/2 "2007-08-06T14:34:40Z")

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Probably sock puppet. That’s the usual cause for a thread disappearance.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/3 "2007-08-06T14:44:56Z")

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One of the [loons](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=366595&highlight=loons) returned?

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**Author:** ![Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f0a364/32.png) [@Rube\_E.Tewesday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rube_E.Tewesday)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/4 "2007-08-06T14:48:10Z")

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[Already being discussed in ATMB](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=8854238#post8854238)  
Really, though, the answer to this question is always the same: If it wasnt’ an obvious troll, it was a sock puppet.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/5 "2007-08-06T14:49:26Z")

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Sock puppet is probably right. Of course, I love the increasingly convoluted theories and so on. It’s hilarious watching them come up with some logical rationale which will let them keep their beliefs absent any knowledge of politics, demolition, or engineering.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/6 "2007-08-06T15:08:15Z")

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Funny, the other night I was in a restaurant and overheard a couple discussing the remote-controlled planes. To their credit, I think they’d heard about this from a friend, and were attempting to think about it critically.

But a friend of mine, who is otherwise very smart, completely buys into the conspiracy. The one bit of “evidence” he has that I can’t refute is this: It’s said that the engines from the planes were never recovered. (I know at least one was.) It’s said that they burned up. But jet engines are designed to withstand that kind of heat.

What’s the poop on that?

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/7 "2007-08-06T16:03:14Z")

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Well first off, not every component is designed to withstand the full heat of the engine, and I very much doubt that _any_ of it gets as hot as the building fires were. Aside from which, it was smashed to pieces at the time.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/8 "2007-08-06T16:45:02Z")

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[QUOTE=tdn]  
But a friend of mine, who is otherwise very smart, completely buys into the conspiracy. The one bit of “evidence” he has that I can’t refute is this: It’s said that the engines from the planes were never recovered. (I know at least one was.) It’s said that they burned up. But jet engines are designed to  
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You’re probably thinking the one shown more or less intact near a bent Murry St. sign. Your friend will probably use the CT playbook and claim it’s from the wrong type of plane.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/9 "2007-08-06T17:39:48Z")

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I’m not a crazy conspiracy nut (I, for example, the Oswald acted alone, as much as I would like to believe otherwise), and I don’t think the towers were destroyed via a coordinated American (or Israeli) plan.

I do, however, have a question that has been nagging me, although I’ve been loathe to create a thread to ask it. So, since we are on the topic of 9/11, does anybody know if it is true that A.G. John Ashcroft stopped flying commercial airplanes in the months prior to 9/11?

(By way of explanation, I do believe there was “chatter” about some sort of plot, although I don’t think the U.S. Gov’t put the pieces together prior to 9/11. The President’s Daily Briefing (Bin Laden Determined To Attack inside U.S.) essentially corroborates this unspecific knowledge).

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/10 "2007-08-06T17:49:18Z")

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I heard the Israelis flew a pair of viruses into that thread, trying to set up the sock puppets.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/11 "2007-08-06T19:59:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Atomicktom]  
does anybody know if it is true that A.G. John Ashcroft stopped flying commercial airplanes in the months prior to 9/11?  
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That’s what [CBS reported](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml).

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/12 "2007-08-06T20:30:16Z")

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God don’t you people know anything?

Clearly the planes opened a portal to another dimension. As the demons escaped into Earth they dropped red herrings all over the place to confound us all for eternity.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/13 "2007-08-06T20:47:49Z")

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Looks like he’s back.

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=431807](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=431807)

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**Author:** ![Kokopilau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Kokopilau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kokopilau)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/14 "2007-08-06T20:48:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher]  
That’s what [CBS reported](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml).  
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Only for official travel, though. He flew commercial planes for personal travel, including a trip with his wife.

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/15 "2007-08-06T21:42:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Lord Ashtar]  
Looks like he’s back.

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=431807](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=431807)  
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and promptly sent back to The Great Bit Bucket In The Sky.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/16 "2007-08-06T23:05:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Kokopilau]  
Only for official travel, though. He flew commercial planes for personal travel, including a trip with his wife.  
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That’s not the linked story said – it included ALL travel, including purely personal.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/17 "2007-08-06T23:43:36Z")

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Actually that thread got “disappeared” because the OP was about to reveal the Unrefutable Truth about 9/11. The mods, who are sent a lot more beer and chocolate than we could ever afford by Certain People Who Wear a Lot of Black But Aren’t into Fashion or Death Metal, did as requested.

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2007, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/18 "2007-08-06T23:49:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Boyo Jim]  
That’s not the linked story said – it included ALL travel, including purely personal.  
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[Here’s](http://911myths.com/html/ashcroft_commercial_flights.html) more information on the John Ashcroft issue.

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**Author:** ![aclubs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@aclubs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aclubs)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2007, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/19 "2007-08-07T00:08:32Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> The mods, who are sent a lot more beer and chocolate than we could ever afford by Certain People Who Wear a Lot of Black But Aren’t into Fashion or Death Metal, did as requested.

Beatniks?

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2007, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-happen-to-the-crazy-9-11-truth-thread/414621/20 "2007-08-07T01:01:02Z")

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At the rate the conspiracy theorists keep expanding their chatter, I must assume that eventually everyone will be in either one camp or another, so that everyone will have intimate knowledge of the conspiracy either being a conspirator or conspiracy nut. 50/50 either way. 😃

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