# Something I still don't understand \[Obama vs. Romney on the economy\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 7, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-i-still-dont-understand-obama-vs-romney-on-the-economy/640236 "2012-11-07T16:37:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-i-still-dont-understand-obama-vs-romney-on-the-economy/640236/121 "2012-11-12T00:50:10Z")
> [@Kevbo](#): > > If a GOP candidate praises anything a Democrat did, it causes a discontinuity in the Fox News cognitive dissonance field, and the wingnuts all collapse , and stare at the wall twitching. Fox could have just passed over what it was that Romney said and focused on what a great candidate he is for saying it. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-i-still-dont-understand-obama-vs-romney-on-the-economy/640236/122 "2012-11-12T19:08:37Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > And the result was that they ended up replaying the 2008 election. > [@zweisamkeit](#): > > What absolutely blows my mind is that this is exactly what happened with Kerry in 2004. “Anybody but Bush!”, anyone? As long as we’re debating which election got replayed this time, might I suggest 1988. From a column by Murray Kempton about Dukakis two days before the election: “In the primaries, it was enough for him then to not be Jesse Jackson, and he seems to have taken it for granted that it would be enough thereafter not to be George Bush. Not being Jesse Jackson worked but not being George Bush apparently hasn’t, and now he must arise and say in thunder just who Michael Dukakis is, and the gifts of nature and the allotment of time look to small to equip him for that job.”\* Substitute Romney for Dukakis, Obama for Bush and “bat shit insane” for Jesse Jackson, and it makes a decent summary of 2012. \*Quoted in Paul Slansky’s “The Clothes Have No Emperor,” p. 268 ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-i-still-dont-understand-obama-vs-romney-on-the-economy/640236/123 "2012-11-12T23:28:20Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Fannie and Freddie had essentially nothing to do.with the financial collapse. You dismissed my other 5 points because you disagree with 1 fact that was fundamentally true? You’ll also note that I did not say the housing bubble caused the economic collapse, that was point 2 (the derivative markets). In actuality the foreclosures were a victim of the collapse and many people lost their homes because of unregulated Fannie and Freddie. If I had lost my home, I would not have chicken or egged it, it would be enough for me to know that for whatever reason my house was gone. It issue of point #1 was that the scenerio was not set up by Bush but by the House Committee and that Bush was unfairly blamed for the condition Fannie & Freddie were in at the time. So any of my other points you claim are factually wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Randvek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@Randvek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randvek)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-i-still-dont-understand-obama-vs-romney-on-the-economy/640236/124 "2012-11-13T01:34:30Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > You dismissed my other 5 points because you disagree with 1 fact that was fundamentally true? Do you know what MERS is, how it operates, why it was made, and who made it? I was going to argue with you about the causes of the housing bubble, but I need to make sure you understand this very basic and vital point first. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-i-still-dont-understand-obama-vs-romney-on-the-economy/640236/125 "2012-11-13T03:57:54Z")
So is OMG actually going to come back to this thread? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-i-still-dont-understand-obama-vs-romney-on-the-economy/640236/126 "2012-11-13T04:03:05Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > So is OMG actually going to come back to this thread? I asked him, and he said he “forgot” he started this thread. I guess he “forgot” again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-i-still-dont-understand-obama-vs-romney-on-the-economy/640236.md?page=6)