# Something I've noticed about Ben Carson **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 3, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549 "2015-11-03T19:14:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/21 "2015-11-05T17:26:14Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Actually, it just changes in the retelling. It could be made up(although it’s an odd thing to make up), or one of the versions could be true. I’m sure the media is looking for Bob. In any case, it doesn’t really matter. Might as well say that Bush made up being an alcoholic. People usually have triggers for becoming born again. For Bush it was alcohol and drugs, for Carson it was his anger issues nearly resulting in him killing a friend. [CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-2016-childhood-violence/index.html) has interviewed the people who know him back then. They stop short of calling him “full of shit”, but that certainly seemed to be the consensus. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/22 "2015-11-05T17:26:47Z")
I don’t think he’s suppressing anger. I don’t think there’s any anger there. The press is looking for corroboration for his claims of violent behavior and not finding anything. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/23 "2015-11-05T18:33:09Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I don’t think he’s suppressing anger. I don’t think there’s any anger there. Well, there you are. He kills without anger. Lizard Person. Explains a lot, doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/24 "2015-11-05T18:44:47Z")
And leaves any bystanders with no memory of the incident. Man In Black. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/25 "2015-11-05T19:35:14Z")
Today he said he tried hit his mother in the head with a hammer. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/26 "2015-11-05T19:55:51Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > [CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-2016-childhood-violence/index.html) has interviewed the people who know him back then. They stop short of calling him “full of shit”, but that certainly seemed to be the consensus. I saw that too. It could be that CNN found people who didn’t really know him and just wanted to be on the news. But it is strange. With as many weapons he said that he would go after people with, there should be some people with corroborating stories. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/27 "2015-11-05T20:43:09Z")
> [@TonySinclair](#): > > I’ve seen the draft for his next book, where he claims he shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die. You misread that. Not shot, bored the hell out of. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/28 "2015-11-05T21:39:17Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > A Lizard Person. Wrong. Alien. Because only an alien would say that aliens totally didn’t build the pyramids. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/29 "2015-11-05T22:52:52Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > [CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-2016-childhood-violence/index.html) has interviewed the people who know him back then. They stop short of calling him “full of shit”, but that certainly seemed to be the consensus. I don’t know about that. From that article: > [@](#): > > Dixon said he had never heard about incidents involving bricks or bats, or the assault with the lock. When asked directly whether he knew of Carson’s claim that he had once stabbed a friend in the waist, Dixon said he had heard talk about an incident like that back in those days, but didn’t know “if it was just a rumor or what” and couldn’t provide any further detail. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/30 "2015-11-05T23:14:29Z")
Are you keeping more convincing evidence in reserve, or is that it? ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/31 "2015-11-06T01:18:38Z")
One thing I have noticed about him is that he has a problem with the truth. [Politifact](http://www.politifact.com/personalities/ben-carson/) rates only 18% of his (17 checked) statements as Half True - the rest are Mostly False, False or Pants on Fire. None were True or Mostly True. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/32 "2015-11-06T04:11:40Z")
Being poor with your facts isn’t a sign of dishonesty. It’s a sign that he gets a lot of bad information from right-wing sources and repeats them. He sounds like your conspiracy theorist friend who keeps on sending you email links. As for his past, CNN is digging a lot deeper than they did for Obama’s biography, which involved quite a few fabrications, but coming up with pretty much nothing. Them trying to portray the lack of verification of childhood memory stories as a sign that he made them up is just lame. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/33 "2015-11-06T04:33:23Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I don’t think he’s suppressing anger. I don’t think there’s any anger there. The press is looking for corroboration for his claims of violent behavior and not finding anything. Now, he’s even admitting he used false names for these victims. Will he possibly survive this or will the Donald seize the opportunity and label him as a liar? > **[Ben Carson: Names of some childhood victims are ‘fictitious’ | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-response-violent-past/index.html)** > > Ben Carson said Thursday that the names of two people he has previously identified as victims of his childhood violence are “fictitious.” ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/34 "2015-11-06T04:34:38Z")
Carson will get through this just fine. The real issue is Mannatech. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/35 "2015-11-06T04:38:10Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Now, he’s even admitting he used false names for these victims. Will he possibly survive this or will the Donald seize the opportunity and label him as a liar? > > [http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-response-violent-past/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-response-violent-past/index.html) Yeah, you don’t know them, they go to a different school. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/36 "2015-11-06T04:47:22Z")
Obama actually made up a good portion of his own biography: > **[The Top Revelations In New Obama Biography](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/david-maraniss-obama-biography-barack-obama-the-story_n_1613758)** > > The Top Revelations In New Obama Biography “Names have been changed to protect the innocent” is a far lesser crime than just making stuff up, as Obama did. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/37 "2015-11-06T04:57:38Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Obama actually made up a good portion of his own biography: > > [David Maraniss Obama Biography Questions Accuracy Of President's Memoir | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/20/david-maraniss-obama-biography-barack-obama-the-story_n_1613758.html) > > “Names have been changed to protect the innocent” is a far lesser crime than just making stuff up, as Obama did. You’re quite certain Carson didn’t just make stuff up then? I mean let’s be honest, he seems like a bit of a nutjob. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/38 "2015-11-06T05:03:52Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Obama actually made up a good portion of his own biography: > > [David Maraniss Obama Biography Questions Accuracy Of President's Memoir | HuffPost Latest News](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/20/david-maraniss-obama-biography-barack-obama-the-story_n_1613758.html) > > “Names have been changed to protect the innocent” is a far lesser crime than just making stuff up, as Obama did. You mean another author _alleges_ that he made part of it up. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/39 "2015-11-06T05:11:36Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Being poor with your facts isn’t a sign of dishonesty. It’s a sign that he gets a lot of bad information from right-wing sources and repeats them. He sounds like your conspiracy theorist friend who keeps on sending you email links. > > As for his past, CNN is digging a lot deeper than they did for Obama’s biography, which involved quite a few fabrications, but coming up with pretty much nothing. Them trying to portray the lack of verification of childhood memory stories as a sign that he made them up is just lame. Dishonest or misled, still incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549/40 "2015-11-06T05:14:35Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > [CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-2016-childhood-violence/index.html) has interviewed the people who know him back then. They stop short of calling him “full of shit”, but that certainly seemed to be the consensus. I noticed that too. Guess all it took was my post to get the ball rolling! 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/something-ive-noticed-about-ben-carson/736549.md?page=3)