# Son of the SDMB Musicals Group **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 10, 2008, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987 "2008-09-10T20:37:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/21 "2008-09-13T19:31:03Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Damn but it’s hot when you talk all authoritative and commanding and butch like that [about musicals].😉 Too bad our sexual preferences intersect not at all, eh? 😃 Okay – that’s two votes for nostalgia and period – are we going to let that be the landslide? ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/22 "2008-09-13T23:53:41Z")
I’d put “Music Man” in nostalgia and period. And maybe one or another of the “_everyone_ was high” rock musicals (there is no other explanation for Hair. Or Tommy. Or Jesus as a hippie clown) in there, too. But I’m voting for Transformation first. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/23 "2008-09-14T16:12:44Z")
Hi **twickster** , sorry I didn’t see this thread before! I wonder if they’ve tweaked how private messages work for non-paid accounts, because when I first started posting again I did receive a couple of PMs. But I got your message over in GQ so it’s all good. 🆒 I’d be happy to participate in this project, but my involvement will probably be limited by other obligations. Since I’ve already seen a large number of the movies on the list I should be able to at least make some comments even if I don’t have time to re-watch (kind of against the spirit I know, but I’ll do what I can) or go into great depth. Oh, **amarinth** , way back when **twickster** , **Archive Guy** and I were originally planning this list I had suggested several rock musicals but was outvoted on most. But in fairness a lot of rock musicals aren’t very good, or suffer a lot if you’re not a fan of the artist being featured. ---
**Author:** ![coffinjumper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8baadc/32.png) [@coffinjumper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coffinjumper)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/24 "2008-09-14T16:45:42Z")
As a musical whore, I am totally in. Current vote is for Politics of Transformation. Most of those I’ve had lot of fun and interesting discussions with others about anyway. But all is good, you could pic a musical by throwing a dart at a board for all I care. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/25 "2008-09-14T17:14:15Z")
Yay, **Lamia**! I was tickled to death to see you over in GQ this morning, and am glad you may be able to pop in from time to time to comment on some musicals. I’ll repeat again – the list and schedule are just to get give people some common base to discuss stuff from, none of it is intended to be exclusionary to people who want to participate at whatever level. Speaking of hippie musicals, I personally love _Hair_, and thought about throwing it into the Nostalgia list – my recollection was that it was **Lamia** and **Archive Guy** who voted it down. 😉 FTR, I object to it being mentioned in the same breath as _Tommy_, which was a complete freaking abortion – the difference being Ken Russell vs. Milos Forman, perhaps? (Yanno, _Hair_ would actually work in one way or another on any of the three lists…) Anyway, I didn’t want to get too deeply into rewriting these lists, because I couldn’t remember how we’d gotten to them. I just took out a few movies that aren’t readily available on DVD and added in a couple of releases from the last two or three years. Okay, vote count, currently: Transformation: 3 Nostalgia: 2 The polls are still open. ---
**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/26 "2008-09-14T18:41:29Z")
I’ll pitch in for Nostalgia. ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/27 "2008-09-14T21:43:12Z")
I’d like to participate. I thought I was reasonably fond of musicals, but I’ve actually seen less than half of your list, so I’m looking forward to it. My vote would be for Period and Nostalgia. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/28 "2008-09-15T13:11:53Z")
Updating the vote count: Politics of Transformation: 3 Period and Nostalgia: 4 The polls are still open. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/29 "2008-09-15T15:09:57Z")
I will go with Nostalgia, but I am fairly open. I demur because I don’t have Netflix. I’ve never seen \*The Umbrellas of Cherbourg \*or _Hedwig and the Angry Inch_. I’ll have to check to see if the library has them, because I’m sure the local video store doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/30 "2008-09-15T19:08:10Z")
Jeez…ok …Im signed up. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/31 "2008-09-16T17:25:28Z")
Okay, that makes it 5 to 3 in favor of Period and Nostalgia, so I’ll take that as a consensus. I see no reason not to just take these in alphabetical order, so first up is _Chicago_, with an new thread specifically for that discussion going up on 10/1. The schedule is as follows: _Chicago_ 10/1 _Meet Me in St. Louis_ 10/15 _Moulin Rouge!_ 11/1 _New York, New York_ 11/15 _Pennies from Heaven_ 12/1 _Seven Brides for Seven Brothers_ 12/15 _1776_ 1/1 _Stormy Weather_ 1/15 If anyone wants to write the OP for one or more of these, let me know – otherwise I’ll throw something together to get things started. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/32 "2008-09-18T05:01:30Z")
I’d like to try to write something up for _St. Louis_ and for _Pennies_, unless you’re especially looking forward to doing so. ---
**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/33 "2008-09-18T10:53:36Z")
Oh dear, _1776_ is my favorite and I’m going on holiday for New Year’s! Does anyone care if we swap it with _Stormy Weather_ or _Seven Brides_? ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/34 "2008-09-18T12:27:22Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Okay, that makes it 5 to 3 in favor of Period and Nostalgia, so I’ll take that as a consensus. I see no reason not to just take these in alphabetical order, so first up is _Chicago_, with an new thread specifically for that discussion going up on 10/1. > > The schedule is as follows: > > _Chicago_ 10/1 > _Meet Me in St. Louis_ 10/15 > _Moulin Rouge!_ 11/1 > _New York, New York_ 11/15 > _Pennies from Heaven_ 12/1 > _Seven Brides for Seven Brothers_ 12/15 > _1776_ 1/1 > _Stormy Weather_ 1/15 > > If anyone wants to write the OP for one or more of these, let me know – otherwise I’ll throw something together to get things started. I think _Hairspray_ should go on this list as well. Altho I am not volunteering for the OP on it, or any, because my POV is skewed. Most every musical I see (stage or film) I view with the eye of “which part is right for me?” I can’t help it. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/35 "2008-09-18T12:36:08Z")
I’ll be following along when I can. I’ve got three productions going right now (_Rent_, _Into The Woods_, and _A Chorus Line_), so I might be a little musicaled out (nah, who am I kidding!) ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/36 "2008-09-18T13:20:00Z")
I’m a big fan of musicals, and I already have a number of the ones on the the various lists, so I’ll be popping in to add my two cents. Oddly enough, perusing my DVD collection reveals that somehow I never got around to picking up a copy of _Chicago_, but this just gives me an excuse to do so now. I’ve been wanting to watch it again anyway. ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/37 "2008-09-18T20:32:55Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > I’ll be following along when I can. I’ve got three productions going right now (_Rent_, _Into The Woods_, and _A Chorus Line_), so I might be a little musicaled out (nah, who am I kidding!) are you a producer? or a director? or are you actually performing in all 3? Just don’t mix them up. They’re 3 different styles. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/38 "2008-09-18T22:29:29Z")
_Chicago_ 10/1 _Meet Me in St. Louis_ 10/15 OP: **lissener** _Moulin Rouge!_ 11/1 _New York, New York_ 11/15 _Pennies from Heaven_ 12/1 OP: **lissener** _Seven Brides for Seven Brothers_ 12/15 _Stormy Weather_ 1/1 _1776_ 1/15 I don’t want to get into adding more films here – we can certainly do _Hairspray_ some other time, though. Since the order was arbitrary, I’m swapping the last two (though keep in mind that there’s no expiration date on any of these threads, so it’s not like the discussion will go “poof” three days after the OP). I’m also adding lissener’s name as OP to the films he requested – **Tracy** , do you want to be OP for _1776_? I’ve never seen it, so doubt I’d be able to do it justice. ETA: I believe **eonwe** is a music director, making his grasp of the differences between these shows rather urgetn. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2008, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/39 "2008-09-18T22:49:57Z")
Neat a couple of films that I really dislike on that list, but that’s ok. It can be fun to really examine something you dislike. [sour grapes]I still think transformation would have been more interesting. [/sour grapes] Maybe next time. 😉 Are we going to hold the discussion to the films themselves or is the conversation going to be allowed to range further than that to the stage productions, historical context, remakes, etc? Also are the general titles of the lists providing our talking points or are they just a way of grouping things? For example, a discussion of Moulin Rouge without talking about La Boheme would feel incomplete. Further connections to what Baz Luhrmann is doing with La Boheme now and how other people have adapted it into plays like Rent would be interesting as well, but possibly off topic. How we gonna do this? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/40 "2008-09-19T00:05:49Z")
We can talk about whatever we want to talk about. I think some mention of the overarching theme in the OP would be appropriate, but that may or may not be of interest to people as the conversation unfolds. And, sure, other versions are definitely a legitimate topic! Keep in mind, though, that not everyone will be equally familiar with all other works, so there’s no guarantee that that part of the conversation will pan out. (Yeah, I was kind of hoping for Transformation also – if there’d been a tie, I’d’ve broken it in favor of that – we can do it next, though, if we keep going with this.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987.md?page=3)