# Son of the SDMB Musicals Group **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 10, 2008, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987 "2008-09-10T20:37:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/81 "2008-11-03T00:20:38Z")
aren’t we due for a _Moulin Rouge_ thread or something? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2008, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/82 "2008-11-03T02:01:16Z")
> [@anyrose](#): > > aren’t we due for a _Moulin Rouge_ thread or something? A day late, for which I apologize (I’ve been confessing so I’d feel like a virgin before posting it), but [it’s here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=490865). ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/83 "2008-11-10T20:34:12Z")
A reminder that _New York, New York_ is coming up this weekend, with **NAF1138** as OP. (I got it from Netflix last week, and it’s just sitting next to the TV, because I’ve been obsessively watching _Six Feet Under_ an episode or three at a time, and waiting for a good place to take a break from it. I’m a couple of episodes into season four and hope to find such a break sometime this week.) ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/84 "2008-11-10T20:39:51Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > A reminder that _New York, New York_ is coming up this weekend, with **NAF1138** as OP. > > (I got it from Netflix last week, and it’s just sitting next to the TV, because I’ve been obsessively watching _Six Feet Under_ an episode or three at a time, and waiting for a good place to take a break from it. I’m a couple of episodes into season four and hope to find such a break sometime this week.) Got it in on Saturday and am looking forward to watching it. It’s the only film on the list I hadn’t seen at least once before, and it’s a Martin Scorsese flick starring DeNeiro and Liza. It should be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/85 "2008-11-10T20:45:14Z")
As I mentioned upthread, I saw it on the big screen. This was 30 years or so ago and chemicals were involved – I’m guessing I’ll have a slightly different experience this time. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/86 "2008-11-15T14:10:05Z")
Got a PM from **NAF1138** saying he (? I think he’s a he, my apologies if I’m wrong) is having company from out of town this weekend, so the OP for _NYNY_ won’t go up till Sunday or Monday. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/87 "2008-11-17T18:19:02Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Got a PM from **NAF1138** saying he (? I think he’s a he, my apologies if I’m wrong) is having company from out of town this weekend, so the OP for _NYNY_ won’t go up till Sunday or Monday. It’s he. The new thread is up [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=493325) and I am really interested in what you all thought. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/88 "2008-11-24T14:08:28Z")
A reminder, as people fine-tune their holiday weekend plans, that _Pennies from Heaven_ is coming up early next week, with **lissener** as OP. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/89 "2008-12-02T04:33:17Z")
_Pennies from Heaven_ discussion [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=495503). ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2008, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/90 "2008-12-02T06:19:37Z")
I’m a great fan of earlier musicals so I’m hoping that in the future some of the following classics could be included? _42nd Street Footlight Parade Gold Diggers of 1933 The Great Ziegfeld Dames Gold Diggers of 1935 Showboat (1936 version)_ _Yankee Doodle Dandy_ It might be interesting too to discuss the very first film musical,\* Broadway Melody \*(1929) Give me Ruby Keeler, Dick Powell and Jimmy Cagney, as in \*Footlight Parade \*, and I’m in heaven! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/91 "2008-12-09T17:31:37Z")
Thanks for the suggestions, **aldiboronti** – if the group makes it out of this set of films intact (the last two choices have been pretty unpopular), we’ll certainly consider your ideas. Speaking of more popular films – next up is _Seven Brides for Seven Brothers_, which I’ll be writing in OP for in about a week. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/92 "2008-12-10T07:58:26Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Speaking of more popular films – next up is _Seven Brides for Seven Brothers_, which I’ll be writing in OP for in about a week. Well bless your beautiful hide.😉 ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/93 "2008-12-10T23:38:53Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > I’m a great fan of earlier musicals so I’m hoping that in the future some of the following classics could be included? > > _42nd Street > Footlight Parade > Gold Diggers of 1933 > The Great Ziegfeld > Dames > Gold Diggers of 1935 > Showboat (1936 version)_ > _Yankee Doodle Dandy_ > > It might be interesting too to discuss the very first film musical,\* Broadway Melody \*(1929) > > Give me Ruby Keeler, Dick Powell and Jimmy Cagney, as in \*Footlight Parade > \*, and I’m in heaven! 🙂 All great movies. But the James Whale \*Show Boat \*of 1936 is not available. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/94 "2008-12-15T20:47:56Z")
The _Seven Brides for Seven Brothers_ discussion commences [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10574824#post10574824). ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/95 "2008-12-29T15:21:35Z")
A reminder that the next film up is _Stormy Weather_, with **Archive Guy** writing an OP as soon as he mops up all his holidaying. I’ve watched it already, and look forward to a discussion of the racial politics of it (in contrast to the issues around sexual politics that came up with _Seven Brides for Seven Brothers_. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/96 "2009-01-09T18:57:51Z")
We’re finishing up this round of films. **Archive Guy** will be posting an OP on _Stormy Weather_ any minute now (ahem), to be followed by **Sampiro** on _1776._ (The latter was originally scheduled for 1/15, but I’m guessing it may be a bit later than that. Which leads us to the question, do we want to continue with another group of films? There are a couple of possibilities if we do: the two other “unused” lists put together by **Archive Guy, Lamia** , and myself: I. Politics of Transformation (male protagonists forced to take stock in their lives and the changes in themselves they’ve witnessed): \*All That Jazz Cabaret Cabin in the Sky Guys and Dolls Hedwig and the Angry Inch It’s Always Fair Weather The Music Man The Pirate Shall We Dance? \*(1995 Japanese original, not the Richard Gere-JLo remake) II. The Vagaries of Love: \*Bride and Prejudice Bye Bye Birdie Oklahoma! Shall We Dance \*(Astaire-Rogers) _The Umbrellas of Cherbourg_ \*\*Note: \*\*This list is obviously shorter than the other two – if you’d like to nominate additional films for it, please do! Plus my somewhat more recent idea of one oriented towards dance, where we choose one film each by a few major choreographers: III. That’s Dancing! Busby Berkeley:\* Footlight Parade, 42nd Street, Million Dollar Mermaid\* Bob Fosse: _All That Jazz, Cabaret_ Gene Kelly: _Anchors Aweigh, Brigadoon, Singin’ in the Rain_ Michael Kidd: _The Band Wagon, Guys and Dolls_ Kenny Ortega: _Dirty Dancing, Newsies, High School Musical_ Hermes Pan: \*Pal Joey, Silk Stockings, Top Hat \* Jerome Robbins: _West Side Story_ Twyla Tharp: _Hair, White Nights_ (Note, more than one film mentioned for everyone but Jerome Robbins – this is to give you an idea of who did what, for those of you for whom “choreographer” isn’t a fundamental category. We’d pick one film each.) There were also calls for a “politics of female transformation” category, plus nominations for a slew of specific films ( **aldiboronti** ’s list was _very_ Busby Berkeley heavy, and I don’t think we need more than one of his; and several people mentioned _Hairspray_). If someone would like to put together another list of 8-10 films around one theme or another and put it into nomination, that would be great. All of this is, of course, premised on the idea that people would like to continue with the musicals group, which I don’t think is actually a given. So – should we continue with the group after we finish this slate of films? and if so, which list would you like to tackle next? ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/97 "2009-01-09T18:59:25Z")
Thanks everyone for your patience, and stay tuned! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/98 "2009-01-09T19:08:02Z")
I am in for another round. I know I haven’t been participating much in the threads, but I have been reading them. I still like catagory 1 best, but catagory 3 would get my second vote. ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/99 "2009-01-10T03:03:02Z")
I like the _politics of transformation_ category ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987/100 "2009-01-10T21:33:56Z")
I’m doing more reading than posting in these threads, but I’m enjoying them. I vote for list #1. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/son-of-the-sdmb-musicals-group/462987.md?page=6)