# Song lyrics — the good, the bad, and the ugly

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** music\
**Created:** [November 14, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-lyrics-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/993148 "2023-11-14T22:02:14Z")\
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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Greatest lyrics ever. All hail The Trashmen.

But you left off the best part of it:  
“Pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa  
Oom m-mow mow  
Pa pa oom mow m-mow  
Pa pa pa oom m-mow mow  
Pa pa oom mow m-mow  
Pa pa oom m-mow mow  
Pa pa oom mow m-mow  
Oom m-mow mow  
Pa pa oom mow m-mow  
Pa pa oom m-mow mow  
Pa pa oom mow m-mow  
Pa pa oom m-mow mow  
Pa pa oom mow m-mow  
Oom m-oom m-oom m-oom  
M-oom m-mow mow  
Pa pa oom mow m-mow  
Pa pa oom m-oom m-oom m-oom  
M-oom m-mow mow  
Pa pa oom mow m-mow  
Oom m-mow mow  
Pa pa oom mow m-mow  
Pa pa oom m-mow mow  
Pa pa oom mow m-mow  
Pa pa oom m-mow mow  
Oom mow m-mow  
Pa pa oom m-mow mow  
Oom mow m-mow  
Pa pa oom m-oom m-oom m-oom  
M-oom m-mow mow  
Oom m-oom m-oom m-oom  
M-oom m-mow mow  
Oom mow m-mow  
Pa pa oom mow m-mow  
Pa pa oom m-mow mow  
Oom mow m-mow”

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I love Rush and would nominate them for many great lyrics, but this “rapped” verse in an otherwise great song, “ **Roll the Bones** ,” always makes me cringe:

I love some Rush as well, but there a rich seam of cringy lyrics to be found there. I’ll see your “ **Roll the Bones** ” rap, and raise you “ **Virtuality** ”…

_Net boy, net girl_  
_Send your signal 'round the world_  
_Let your fingers walk and talk_  
_And set you free_

_Net boy, net girl_  
_Send your impulse 'round the world_  
_(Put your message in a modem)_  
_Put your message in a modem_  
_(And throw it in the cyber sea)_  
_And throw it in the cyber sea_

Or, how about “ **Dog Years** ”?..

_In a dog’s life_  
_A year is really more like seven_  
_And all too soon a canine_  
_Will be chasing cars in doggie heaven_

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-lyrics-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/993148/43 "2023-11-16T11:39:01Z")

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In the ugly department,

[Blackmore’s Night, “Be Mine Tonight”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV_hJ3QPcS4)

In an otherwise sweet devotional love song, we get this:

> So many stories,  
> So many treasures,  
> So much our lives have shared…  
> We’ve done it all and we’ve done it together,  
> You know I’ve always cared…

“Cared?” really, just “cared?”

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-lyrics-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/993148/44 "2023-11-16T13:18:35Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> The song “The Myth of Fingerprints” is about racism.

Does Paul Simon say that somewhere? Because reading the lyrics (of a song I’ve heard hundreds of times) just to be sure, it never occurred to me before and seems like quite a stretch now.

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**Post date:** [November 16, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-lyrics-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/993148/45 "2023-11-16T13:49:24Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Does Paul Simon say that somewhere? Because reading the lyrics (of a song I’ve heard hundreds of times) just to be sure, it never occurred to me before and seems like quite a stretch now

Well, I suppose I could have said ‘in my opinion’ and maybe saying the song is about ‘racism’ is simplifying things a bit. But the album was created in the shadow of Apartheid, and it seems, to me at least, pretty clear that Simon was making social and political statements about Apartheid; and in general about the prevalence of African culture throughout the world and certain other cultures’ unease with that.

However, he didn’t want to distract from the music itself, so he so he couched things in levels of metaphor to keep the social and political messages secondary to the music.

Take this expanded section of lyrics from ‘Fingerprints’:

_Well, the sun gets bloody_  
_And the sun goes down_  
_Ever since the watermelon_  
_And the lights come up_  
_On the black pit town_  
_Somebody says what’s a better thing to do_  
_Well, it’s not just me_  
_And it’s not just you_  
_This is all around the world_

Sure, interpretations can differ, and maybe I’m wrong, but to me this is saying that racial injustice, or at least racial biases and misunderstandings happen 'all around the world".

[Here’s an interesting thesis on the Graceland album I found online.](https://baylor-ir.tdl.org/server/api/core/bitstreams/71e8be58-f319-44ba-97e8-ff9bd07e3199/content)

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In the otherwise sublime Moody Blues concept album “Days of Future Passed,” at the end the narrator intones: “Senior citizens wish they were young.” He should have said “old men and women” or something — “senior citizen” is a soulless demographic euphemism.

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Yep, that always jars me.

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I think you’re reading a lot into it. I’ll just leave it at that, rather than hijack the thread. Main thing is, the author’s intended meaning is unknown afaict.

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One I heard yesterday that I really like from Heart _Nothing at all_

I would walk home every evening  
Through the pyramids of light  
I would feed myself on silence  
Wash it down with empty nights

Then you get AC/DC:

A body of Venus with arms

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I think you’re reading a lot into it. I’ll just leave it at that, rather than hijack the thread. Main thing is, the author’s intended meaning is unknown afaict.

Maybe so; it’s possible I’m reading too much into it. In any case, I will drop the hijack too.

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> You forgot the bad. From Shakira’s English debut hit “Whenever, Wherever”:
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> _Lucky that my lips not only mumble_  
> _They spill kisses like a fountain_  
> _Lucky that my breasts are small and humble_  
> _So you don’t confuse 'em with mountains_

My S. American Latina wife once related that her mother said to her that my wife was fortunate not to have large breasts because it meant that she could wear low-cut or revealing feminine clothes without looking like a whore. I don’t know if that mindset is intentionally reflected in those lyrics but it reminded me of that.

(Should go without saying that I’m not endorsing this line of thought)

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> My S. American Latina wife once related that her mother said to her that my wife was fortunate not to have large breasts because it meant that she could wear low-cut or revealing feminine clothes without looking like a whore. I don’t know if that mindset is intentionally reflected in those lyrics but it reminded me of that.

Maybe that sentiment applies here, but one can surely express it better. Confuse them with mountains? That’s ridiculous, almost baby speak.

I mean, it’s no biggie, it’s a harmless pop song without any greater message you can dance to, so there are no big expectations for great poetry. I’ve also always assumed that the writer is no native English speaker, so I cut them some slack.

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True, I won’t say that they’re good lyrics. Just spurred a memory.

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> Then you get AC/DC:
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> A body of Venus with arms

I think that’s genius! I mean, it IS AC/DC. Subtlety isn’t their forte.

“She told me to come/but I was already there”

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Returning to the **Good** , my entry in the _Songs beginning with E_ thread reminded me of these splendid lines from Black Grape’s **England’s Irie**. (This is, improbably, ostensibly, a soccer World Cup song (very unofficial). Note that the first couple of lines refer to a referee).

_Hey diddle-diddle, there’s a fella in the middle_  
_And I think he’s pulling my string_  
_My wife’s lactating and I’m spectating_  
_It’s a football thing_  
_I live in a land of class hypocracy_  
_We’re going to win the national lottery_  
_E I Adio, I don’t think so_

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**Atmosphere**.

So many good lyrics.

My favorite song is “Trying To Find a Balance.”

_Wait, let’s prey on the blind, deaf, dumb, dead_  
_Hustle, maybe a couple will love what you said_  
_Emcees drag their feet across a big naked land_  
_With an empty bag of seed and a fake shake of hands_  
_Yeah I got some last words, fuck all of ya’ll_  
_Stop writin’ raps and go play volleyball_

_Gotta journey the world in a hurry_  
_'Cause my attorney didn’t put enough girls on the jury_

_In the days of Kings and Queens I was a jester  
Treat me like a God or they treat me like a leper  
You see me move back and forth between both  
I’m tryin’ to find a balance_

“The Key To Life Vs. 15 Minutes of Fame”

_It’s like all of Franklin Avenue now sleeps upon my chest_  
_I’ve used cigarette butts and loose leaves to build my nest_  
_Did I mention I appreciate the way you treat your guests?_  
_But I’m not really convinced when you say that you’re impressed_  
_The line between MC and comedian gets a little thinner_  
_Now it’s nothing but ruffage for lunch and punchlines for dinner_  
_I’ve tried to open the blinds to let in some sunshine_  
_Wound the watch 'til it broke all in hopes of stopping the time_

_The key broke off in the ignition_  
_Hoping if I wandered off through my thoughts wishing_  
_Hoping this could be for you what it is for me patiently I stay busy, I wait, I see_

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Listening to Your Song today and these lines annoyed me as they always do:

If I was a sculptor  
But then again, no  
Or a man who makes potions in a travelin’ show, oh  
I know it’s not much, but it’s the best I can do  
My gift is my song and this one’s for you

Even the way Elton sings it, it barely makes sense.

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Besides having a funky groove and terrific guitar work by Adrian Belew, I love David Byrne’s semi-rap From Crosseyed And Painless:

_Facts are simple and facts are straight_  
_Facts are lazy and facts are late_  
_Facts all come with points of view_  
_Facts don’t do what I want them to_  
_Facts just twist the truth around_  
_Facts are living turned inside out_  
_Facts are getting the best of them_  
_Facts are nothing on the face of things_

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> Even the way Elton sings it, it barely makes sense.

That’s what I like about it. It’s about someone grappling for the right words to express his love, but he’s not very creative so it comes out all jumbled.

And then there’s this astonishing line:

_But the sun’s been quite kind while I wrote this song  
It’s for people like you that keep it turned on_

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What you folks need is **[_Dave Barry’s Book of Bad Songs_](https://www.amazon.ca/Dave-Barrys-Book-Bad-Songs/dp/0740706004)**, which was the result of an overwhelming response to his column setting out a Bad Song Survey. It’s been a long time since I read it but I believe that “MacArthur Park” was at or near the top of the list …

> _Someone left the cake out in the rain  
> I don’t think that I can take it  
> 'Cause it took so long to bake it  
> And I’ll never have that recipe agaaaaaaain!  
> Oh, nooooooooo …_

But the book (and Barry’s fans) also tries to disparage \*The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald", which I entirely disagree with. It’s a perfectly fine nautical ballad.

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