# Song-melding **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 22, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177 "2018-01-22T03:23:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/81 "2018-01-30T01:02:03Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > i mean [listen here to them side by side](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4epkyaei9wm). 10% similarity? OK. 20%. ☺ ETA: Sure, there’s some similarity, but tangentially. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/82 "2018-01-30T01:07:44Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > OK. 20%. ☺ > > ETA: Sure, there’s some similarity, but tangentially. Interesting. I’m pretty lax about these things, but that particular one just jumps out at me. Far more similar than that “Blurred Lines” vs Marvin Gaye lawsuit (which I thought was horseshit.) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/83 "2018-01-30T05:52:14Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Interesting. I’m pretty lax about these things, but that particular one just jumps out at me. Far more similar than that “Blurred Lines” vs Marvin Gaye lawsuit (which I thought was horseshit.) I was unaware of this suit, and after listening back and forth between to the two, I agree. _Maybe_ the bass lines, but even then, aren’t there a lot of similar funk bass lines? The Doors say [Hello, I Love You](https://youtu.be/8f1z-nHvt3c?t=11) to the Kinks, for [All Day, And All Of The Night"](https://youtu.be/fOGMRnKl5co?t=4) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/84 "2018-01-30T07:12:03Z")
Just realising that god-forsaken Middle of the Road band (that I mentioned upthread) has managed to pull a double-meld. Just a couple seconds after my previous edit, you can sing along “Everybody’s doin’ it, a brand new dance now” to [this.](https://youtu.be/HSNSTerj2Kc?list=RDRLI1GCcxS7M&t=45) (ok, not a perfect one - at the end - “and my momma was gone”\* - her notes descend.) \*Hearing it, at first I thought it was “and my wallet was gone”. DAMN YOU GOOGLE! ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/85 "2018-01-30T15:54:59Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > I was unaware of this suit, and after listening back and forth between to the two, I agree. > _Maybe_ the bass lines, but even then, aren’t there a lot of similar funk bass lines? It’s basically the groove and feel of the song (which is what their appeal from a few months ago was based on, that you can’t copyright a groove or feel). I mean, “Blurred Lines” is reminiscent of the “Got to Give It Up” percussive groove, but, otherwise, it feels melodically and harmonically distinct to me (as opposed to the chorus of the Offspring song, which is similar melodically, harmonically, rhythmically, and even the lyrics echo the Beatles song with the syllables and how they’re placed.) I really don’t understand how “Blurred Lines” managed to lose the trial on that one. Hell, even Led Zeppelin won with Stairway vs Spirit’s Taurus (which I agree with, but I think those two songs are more reminiscent of each other than Thicke/Pharrell v Gaye). ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/86 "2018-01-30T17:32:22Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > [Art Pepper](https://youtu.be/NFjmWI-d6d4?t=26) sashaying into [Steely Dan.](https://youtu.be/zv-tjDsdduc?t=25) Art Pepper? It’s Horace Silver, Song for my Father. That song is the source of another famous song: Stevie Wonder - Don’t you worry bout a thing I am the only one who says this AFAIK, but it's there. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/87 "2018-01-30T17:54:49Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Art Pepper? It’s Horace Silver, Song for my Father. > > That song is the source of another famous song: > > Stevie Wonder - Don’t you worry bout a thing > > I am the only one who says this AFAIK, but it's there. [Wikipedia mentions it without a citation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_You_Worry_%27bout_a_Thing), so you’re not the only one. (And there’s a few more hits if you Google.) The chord progression itself is generic/cliche Latin-South American bossa nova sounding stuff, but I guess it’s moret the similarity between the horn riff and the “Don’t You Worry About a Thing” part (At least that’s what I think some people are getting at–the cites I see say the horn part was the part borrowed, and that’s the closest I could fine). I guess I can see that being inspirational. It’s a bit far removed for me, but I can just about hear it. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/88 "2018-01-30T21:44:34Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Art Pepper? It’s Horace Silver, Song for my Father. :smack: Thanks. [Talking Heads](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi9s1gPmR7g&list=PL0DEBCA6AC05B4F8A) take a page out of [The Jackson Five’s](https://youtu.be/ho7796-au8U?t=8) book. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/89 "2018-01-30T21:48:15Z")
Back in the Eighties, there were two #1 hits that had VERY similar openings: Hall & Oates’ “Maneater” and Phil Collins’ “You Can’t Hurry Love.” "I suspect that the “Maneater” bass opening was intended as a Motown tribute, since Darryl and John are such huge Motown lovers. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/90 "2018-01-30T21:54:39Z")
Sly and The Family Stone’s [Hot Fun in the Summertime](https://youtu.be/Bg0tFRea0wA?t=60), of course, always brings Genesis’ “Misunderstanding” to mind. (And Phil Collins very much names it as one of several inspirations for the song. And, if the time link doesn’t work properly for whatever reason, it’s 1:00 into the song, specifically the bass part.) ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/91 "2018-01-30T23:36:45Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > [Wikipedia mentions it without a citation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_You_Worry_%27bout_a_Thing), so you’re not the only one. (And there’s a few more hits if you Google.) The chord progression itself is generic/cliche Latin-South American bossa nova sounding stuff, but I guess it’s moret the similarity between the horn riff and the “Don’t You Worry About a Thing” part (At least that’s what I think some people are getting at–the cites I see say the horn part was the part borrowed, and that’s the closest I could fine). I guess I can see that being inspirational. It’s a bit far removed for me, but I can just about hear it. It’s not the whole of the songs. But the line where stevie takes it into multi-multi syllables, “Thi i- i- i- ing” seems identical to the horn part. This occurs elsewhere too in both songs. Every time it happens there are _ **23 beats/syllables timed and indentifiable occurring in both songs** _ at the same time and in the same tempo, with the same number of bars. That’s close. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/92 "2018-01-31T00:15:31Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > It’s not the whole of the songs. But the line where stevie takes it into multi-multi syllables, “Thi i- i- i- ing” seems identical to the horn part. This occurs elsewhere too in both songs. Every time it happens there are _ **23 beats/syllables timed and indentifiable occurring in both songs** _ at the same time and in the same tempo, with the same number of bars. That’s close. Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I hear that now. ETA: Oh, yes… definitely. I didn’t listen far enough into the song. Absolutely quoting “Song for my father.” ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/93 "2018-01-31T00:28:19Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I hear that now. ETA: Oh, yes… definitely. I didn’t listen far enough into the song. Absolutely quoting “Song for my father.” I used to think of that Stevie song as a contender for the most syllables used for one word ever. But I don’t know whether to give stevie credit for the fast triplets. Thanks to Guest(…)Id who posted live version of Song For My Father. Great! ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/94 "2018-01-31T02:19:47Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Thanks to Guest(…)Id who posted live version of Song For My Father. Great! ::hat-nod:: Normally I tend towards studio versions (in case a live performance is too improv-y or poorly recorded or looks dumb) but for this one - naw. [Zep](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnRDAId0Kb8)/[Devo](https://youtu.be/a8UcpmUQkNU?t=26) meld. Sure, one of the more generic offerings, but still hard-pressed to find another one as close as those two particular riffs are. (other than the Devo one being faster) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/95 "2018-02-07T05:11:55Z")
A little bit of CPR on this thread, but at least it’s on a Tuesday, still qualifying this as a Tuesday Meld (pacific time). Nice to be able to edit, back and forth, the "la"s in [Yesterday Once More](https://youtu.be/asQegjiHhXE?t=49), [Close to You](https://youtu.be/iFx-5PGLgb4?t=177), and Elvis Costello’s [Element Within Her](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rdXbkp39dE), and the Grass Roots’ [Live For Today](https://youtu.be/rwr9X5WS6Ho?t=31). And then make a loop of that. Of course, the edits would have to be tightened up, like losing the awesome four-count in that last one. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/96 "2018-02-07T05:50:19Z")
There is a Mother Love Bone song that reminds me of the theme to Magnum, P.I. Wait. I’ll look it up… _Come bite the apple_ ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/97 "2018-02-08T10:36:32Z")
Ah - I finally thought of one that pops into my brain regularly: - \*\*Boogie Fever \*\*by The Sylvers: [The Sylvers - Boogie Fever (Midnight Special 1976) - YouTube](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YHKCHvpYq_8) (main riff 18 seconds in) and - **Day Tripper** by The Beatles: [Day Tripper Lyrics - Beatles - YouTube](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jDm2soD0UFE) The two song lyrics slither past each other as the common riff plays out in my head. ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/98 "2018-02-08T15:08:25Z")
I do this one all the time on acoustic with AC/DC’s You Shook Me All Night Long and Dixie Chicks’ Goodbye Earl, same chord progression. “Na na nanana nana nana na, She was a fast machine…” ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/99 "2018-02-08T16:54:00Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > Ah - I finally thought of one that pops into my brain regularly: > > - \*\*Boogie Fever \*\*by The Sylvers: [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YHKCHvpYq\_8](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YHKCHvpYq_8) (main riff 18 seconds in) > > and > > - **Day Tripper** by The Beatles: [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jDm2soD0UFE](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jDm2soD0UFE) > > The two song lyrics slither past each other as the common riff plays out in my head. Cool, yeah, as well as melding in with [April Wine!\*](https://youtu.be/YlcY_enzwmI?t=236https://youtu.be/YlcY_enzwmI?t=236) (This was a very intentional nod, though, given the topic of the song, and how they brilliantly weave the _Satisfaction_ riff into the Day Tripper riff.) \*ok seriously, now - how can you _not_ go all gaga over that table hockey action? INTENSE!!! ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177/100 "2018-02-08T17:37:24Z")
Yep. I avoided the April Wine song I Like to Rock just like I avoided All Summer Long by Kid Rock, which blends Sweet Home Alabama with Werewolves of London, etc… The Sylvers and the Beatles connection is a lot more fun for me because they are very different pop subgenres yet using the same basic riff. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-melding/807177.md?page=6)