# Song References Like Jagger, Ooh ooh ooh like Jagger

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 27, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-references-like-jagger-ooh-ooh-ooh-like-jagger/600983 "2011-10-27T16:53:27Z")\
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> [@astorian](#):
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> Bob DYlan is mentioned in quite a few songs, including:
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> Billy Joel- “We Didn’t Start the Fire”  
> John Lennon - “God”  
> Jesus Jones - “Right Here, Right Now”  
> Hootie & the Blowfish - “I Only Wanna Be With You”  
> Til Tuesday - “Coming Up Close”  
> Ricky Nelson - “Garden Party”  
> Simon & Garfunkel - “A Simple Desultory Philippic”  
> Counting Crows - “Mr. Jones”  
> PROBABLY Don McLean - “American Pie” (if you assume the Jester is Dylan)

And to add:  
David Bowie: “Song for Bob Dylan”, which also uses Robert Zimmerman to refer to Dylan.  
Wally Pleasant: “Song for Bob Dylan” (different song)  
Belle and Sebastian: “Like Dylan in the Movies”  
The Minutemen: “Bob Dylan Wrote Propaganda Songs”

I’m surprised that there haven’t been many mentions of politicians. I’m willing to bet that Bush shows up in a number of songs. I once thought of putting a mix tape together of songs that mentioned Giuliani as well. I don’t recall for sure, but I think I found enough in my collection to fill a tape.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-references-like-jagger-ooh-ooh-ooh-like-jagger/600983/22 "2011-10-27T20:28:02Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> Although…Margaret Thatcher sure inspired a lot of verse:
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> [Stand Down Margaret](http://youtu.be/EDr8cnH6-SU) - The (English) Beat  
> [Margaret on the Guillotine](http://youtu.be/hsq3H_6XuFA) - Morrissey  
> [Tramp the Dirt Down](http://youtu.be/K-BZIWSI5UQ) - Elvis Costello

And [Don’t Sniff Coke](http://youtu.be/cln4UTA5wzA) - Pato Banton. He also references Ronald Reagan in the same verse, ~ 3:27.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-references-like-jagger-ooh-ooh-ooh-like-jagger/600983/23 "2011-10-27T20:56:47Z")

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Clint Eastwood is mentioned in “Los Rancheros” by Adam and the Ants and by Big Audio Dynamite in their song “Bad.”

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-references-like-jagger-ooh-ooh-ooh-like-jagger/600983/24 "2011-10-27T22:07:27Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> By your own definition, Mick Jagger is also ineligible.
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> His “correct, full first and last names” are Michael Jagger.

Good point. I’ll retract that part. Use of the person’s commonly identified name is fine. Bonus points for first and last name. Vague nicknames like “Jester” or “The King” still score a zero.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-references-like-jagger-ooh-ooh-ooh-like-jagger/600983/25 "2011-10-27T22:12:18Z")

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> [@Morbo](#):
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> He also references Ronald Reagan in the same verse, ~ 3:27.

Reagan died in 2004.

As far as references to dead people, I would think Jesus Christ (of Nazareth) is referenced by name in more songs than Elvis.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-references-like-jagger-ooh-ooh-ooh-like-jagger/600983/26 "2011-10-27T22:17:24Z")

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Does “Sit on my face Stevie Nix” by The Rotters count? I hope so!

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-references-like-jagger-ooh-ooh-ooh-like-jagger/600983/27 "2011-10-27T22:29:54Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Songs that mention Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali:
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> LL Cool J - “Mama Said Knock You Out”  
> Johnny Wakelin - “Black Superman”  
> Billy Joel - “Zanzibar”  
> Fabulous Thunderbirds - “Tuff Enuff”  
> Bob Dylan - “I Shall Be Free #10”  
> Tori Amos - “Professional Widow”  
> Skeeter Davis - "“I’m a Lover (Not a Fighter)”  
> 50 Cent - “Many Men”

Add Dan Hicks “By Hook Or By Crook”  
_“…like Cassius with his KO…”_  
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**Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-references-like-jagger-ooh-ooh-ooh-like-jagger/600983/28 "2011-10-27T22:32:25Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> By your own definition, Mick Jagger is also ineligible.
> 
> His “correct, full first and last names” are Michael Jagger.

Correct. (but I prefer “Sir Mick”)

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2011, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/song-references-like-jagger-ooh-ooh-ooh-like-jagger/600983/29 "2011-10-30T07:02:07Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Bob DYlan is mentioned in quite a few songs, including:
> 
> Billy Joel- “We Didn’t Start the Fire”  
> John Lennon - “God”  
> Jesus Jones - “Right Here, Right Now”  
> Hootie & the Blowfish - “I Only Wanna Be With You”  
> Til Tuesday - “Coming Up Close”  
> Ricky Nelson - “Garden Party”  
> Simon & Garfunkel - “A Simple Desultory Philippic”  
> Counting Crows - “Mr. Jones”  
> PROBABLY Don McLean - “American Pie” (if you assume the Jester is Dylan)

> [@Voyager](#):
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> Also the Beatles “Yer Blues” - “Feel so suicidal, just like Dylan’s Mr. Jones.”

> [@President\_Johnny\_Gentle](#):
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> And to add:  
> David Bowie: “Song for Bob Dylan”, which also uses Robert Zimmerman to refer to Dylan.  
> Wally Pleasant: “Song for Bob Dylan” (different song)  
> Belle and Sebastian: “Like Dylan in the Movies”  
> The Minutemen: “Bob Dylan Wrote Propaganda Songs”

The first one I thought of was “The Seeker” by The Who:  
“I asked Bobby Dylan. I asked the Beatles. I asked Timothy Leary, but he couldn’t help me either.”

Maybe not exactly the “correct” first name, but close enough I think.

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> [@TreacherousCretin](#):
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> Easy one. Paul Simon’s _A Simple Desultory Philippic_

Sure, but how many of them are still alive? (Some were dead already when the song was written.)

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Okay, this isn’t really appropriate to the thread, but it is to the title: Am I the only one who grew up thinking he was made at McDonalds–that his name was McJagger?

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