# Songs about a person who is the same sex as the singer

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**Created:** [March 21, 2022, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-about-a-person-who-is-the-same-sex-as-the-singer/961405 "2022-03-21T01:51:28Z")\
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“Jukebox Hero” by Foreigner.

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_Tunic (Song for Karen)_ by Sonic Youth (sung by Kim Gordon).

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There has to be thousands of these. I just looked through one of my playlists for examples. This represents only A through E:

Adios Hermanos – Paul Simon  
The Ballad of Danny Bailey – Elton John  
Brother Louie – Stories  
Brown Eyed Handsome Man – Chuck Berry  
Buddy Holly – Weezer  
The Catman – Robert Gordon  
Charlie Boy – The Lumineers  
Charlie Brown – The Coasters  
Clean Elvis – Dan Reader  
Cool Papa Bell – Paul Simon  
Daddy Don’t Live in That New York City No More – Steely Dan  
Danny’s Song – Loggins and Messina  
Doctor Wu – Steely Dan  
Domino – Van Morrison  
Empty Garden – Elton John  
Excitable Boy – Warren Zevon

mmm

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Danny’s Song - Loggins and Messina  
Powderfinger - Neil Young and Crazy Horse  
Tonight’s the Night - Neil Young and Crazy Horse

“Bruce Barry was a working man, he use to load that Econoline . . . and late at night when the people were gone he used pick my guitar.”

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> Someone singing about someone of the same sex who they know (lots of parent/child, and sibling songs)

Yeah, I was thinking about **Harper Valley PTA** , where the narrator is talking about her mother.

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> The requirements set out by the OP catch two categories of song which are IMHO completely different.
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> - Someone singing about someone of the same sex who they know (lots of parent/child, and sibling songs)
> - someone who is simply singing a “story song” about a real or imagined character who happens to be of the same sex as the singer.

What about a song that is an elegy or tribute to a person (or persons) who has died (like The Commodores’ “Night Shift”)?

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> [@Askance](#):
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> The Beatles: Nowhere Man, Maxwell’s Silver Hammer, Taxman, The Fool on the Hill, Hey Jude, A Day in the Life, Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band

Doctor Robert

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Bruce Springsteen:

Bobby Jean  
Pretty much all of the album Born To Run  
Johnny 99  
Highway Patrolman  
etc.

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> - Someone singing about someone of the same sex who they know (lots of parent/child, and sibling songs)
> - someone who is simply singing a “story song” about a real or imagined character who happens to be of the same sex as the singer.
> 
> I wonder if the OP really meant to catch the latter?

Either of these. I’m interested in seeing what types of things people sing about in regards to members of their own gender when romance and romantic hindrances are both removed from the picture. Family, friendships, stories, tributes, and rebukes are necessarily part of what remains.

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> [@Askance](#):
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> The Kinks: Apeman, Dedicated Follower of Fashion, Well Respected Man

Also “David Watts”, though it’s ambiguous if the admiration for the subject of the song is or isn’t romantic or sexual.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/hGrniCrIHGg/maxresdefault.jpg "The Kinks - David Watts (Official Audio)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGrniCrIHGg)

ETA: and “Dandy”

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/E2Mii2GOwMA/hqdefault.jpg "The Kinks - Dandy") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Mii2GOwMA)

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Also tons of Dylan songs, for instance:

John Wesley Harding  
John Brown  
Blind Willie McTell  
Rambling, Gambling Willie  
Ballad Of Hollis Brown  
Frankie Lee And Judas Priest

ETA: a special case is Aretha Franklin’s cover of “Eleanor Rigby”. A song originally written and sung by a man about a woman, sung from the first person perspective in the Aretha version:

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TlHaX55wG0Y/hqdefault.jpg "Eleanor Rigby by Aretha Franklin") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlHaX55wG0Y)

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> - Not a romantic rival (so _not_ Jolene)
> - Not a same sex love interest (so _not_ whoever Melissa Ethridge wanted to come to her window)
> - While the person doesn’t need to be a real person or even specifically named, it should be **a** person, not many

You might argue that “Lola” meets the test here. Lola is clearly not a romantic rival, and while “she” is the same sex as the singer, the singer doesn’t know that at first.

Not quite in line with the OP, but how about songs where the singer is a different gender than the song was apparently written for? I’m thinking of Anne Murray’s cover of Daydream Believer (“Cheer up, Sleepy Jean”) and Joan Baez’s The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" (“Virgil Kaine is my name”). Those have always been a bit jarring.

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Mack the Knife (Bobby Darin version)  
Mean Mr. Mustard  
Maxwell’s Silver Hammer  
Jumping Jack Flash  
Cousin Kevin  
Uncle Ernie  
Good Captain Clack

Broadway is full of them:  
Mr. Buffalo Bill  
Hey, There (sung to himself)  
Jubilation T. Cornpone

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Peter Gabriel

- Biko
- Family Snapshot

Jimmy Buffet

- Who’s the Blond Stranger
- He went to Paris
- Jolly Mon

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> [@Askance](#):
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> David Bowie: The Man Who Sold the World, Andy Warhol and Song for Bob Dylan

There are loads. The Little Bombardier, Uncle Arthur, (The) Jean Genie…Ziggy Stardust… do gnomes count?

j

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_Sweet Gene Vincent_ by **Ian Dury.**

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Who also sang about **My Old Man** , of course.

j

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> [@Askance](#):
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> The Beatles: Nowhere Man, Maxwell’s Silver Hammer, Taxman, The Fool on the Hill, Hey Jude, A Day in the Life, Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band

Ahem.

mmm

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Possibly, **Me and Bobby McGee** , but I haven’t confirmed it yet. According to one lyrics site, Kris Kristofferson’s version referred to Bobby as “she”, and Janis Joplin’s as “he”. That song has been recorded by a few other singers, and I don’t know if any of them used the same gender as the singer. I’m also not sure if there’s a definitive answer as to whether it’s about a love interest or just a very close friendship

Definitely romantic. Kristofferson’s original version - the one I grew up hearing - has the line “Every night she kept me from the cold.” Certainly suggests something stronger than mere friendship.

As to the OP, I could make a whole list just from Kristofferson’s discography: “Casey’s Last Ride”, “Duvalier’s Dream”, “Darby’s Castle”, “The Pilgrim: Chapter 33”, “The Law Is For Protection Of The People”, arguably “Sugar Man”.

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> Also tons of Dylan songs, for instance:
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> John Wesley Harding  
> John Brown  
> Blind Willie McTell  
> Rambling, Gambling Willie  
> Ballad Of Hollis Brown  
> Frankie Lee And Judas Priest

Thought of some more:

Hurricane  
The Man In The Long Black Coat  
Jokerman  
Who Killed Davey Moore?  
Lenny Bruce  
Catfish  
A Pawn In Their Game  
Senor (Tales Of Yankee Power)

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