# Songs (non - I IV V) That Every Gigging Musician Should Be Able to Play **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 22, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283 "2014-03-22T14:57:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SirGalahad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@SirGalahad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirGalahad)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/21 "2014-03-23T15:56:17Z")
> [@Ximenean](#): > > All I-IV-V. I believe “Hokey Pokey” is I-V-I For all you weekend warriors, check this out … [http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2014/03/21/copyright-lawsuit-against-medina-bar-unauthorized-show-by-local-classic-rock-cover-band-caused-great-and-incalculable-damage](http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2014/03/21/copyright-lawsuit-against-medina-bar-unauthorized-show-by-local-classic-rock-cover-band-caused-great-and-incalculable-damage) I’ll bet the songwriters involved played plenty of cover tunes back in the 50s 60s and 70s … sucks that they punish a small venue like the ones they came up in. It’s not just publishers and attorneys, any BMI member that receives royalties (me included) shares in the responsibility for this “no tolerance” situation. It sucks. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/22 "2014-03-23T16:31:52Z")
> [@SirGalahad](#): > > For all you weekend warriors, check this out … > > [http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2014/03/21/copyright-lawsuit-against-medina-bar-unauthorized-show-by-local-classic-rock-cover-band-caused-great-and-incalculable-damage](http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2014/03/21/copyright-lawsuit-against-medina-bar-unauthorized-show-by-local-classic-rock-cover-band-caused-great-and-incalculable-damage) > > I’ll bet the songwriters involved played plenty of cover tunes back in the 50s 60s and 70s … sucks that they punish a small venue like the ones they came up in. It’s not just publishers and attorneys, any BMI member that receives royalties (me included) shares in the responsibility for this “no tolerance” situation. It sucks. Not that I would want it to happen, but why wasn’t the band named as defendants, too? What happens if Mr. BMI stumbles across a busker on the sidewalk? Is the busker up the creek? Why is that different than the cover band? Did J. Fogerty ever get his copyright/performance rights back for his Creedence songs? ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/23 "2014-03-23T16:41:26Z")
> [@SirGalahad](#): > > I believe “Hokey Pokey” is I-V-I. Not in the arrangement, if you can call it that, that I am familiar with (under the British name “Hokey Cokey”). It throws caution to the wind and introduces a third chord, the IV, at some points. Unless we are saying that I-IV-V means those chords and in that order, in which case we are limited to Wild Thing / Twist and Shout / La Bamba, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/24 "2014-03-23T17:02:47Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > A sus chord has neither third. A sus2 would be made of the notes A, B, and E. An add2 or add9 would have the same notes, plus the C#. To fret an Asus2, it’s 002200. > > ETA: whoops. I see you’re asking about the second. It’s major. Your giving me the fingering anticipated my unasked question. An Asus2 reminds me a lot of an Esus4 if you don’t mind doubling the sus4 and not doubling the 5th. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/25 "2014-03-23T17:26:43Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > Your giving me the fingering anticipated my unasked question. An Asus2 reminds me a lot of an Esus4 if you don’t mind doubling the sus4 and not doubling the 5th. They do have the same notes and can be the same chord, depending on the context. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/26 "2014-03-23T17:33:00Z")
ASus2 is an Am with the first finger lifted up and letting the open B string sound. Gives a distinctive sound in Fields of Gold. [http://www.cyberfret.com/chords/featured/asus2-13/images/asus2.gif](http://www.cyberfret.com/chords/featured/asus2-13/images/asus2.gif) > [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > ASus2? Don’t recall this one off the top of my head. I’m not saying you’re wrong. Is it similar to an A add 9? Is the Sus2 a major or minor 2nd? ---
**Author:** ![SirGalahad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@SirGalahad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirGalahad)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/27 "2014-03-23T18:06:39Z")
> [@Ximenean](#): > > Not in the arrangement, if you can call it that, that I am familiar with (under the British name “Hokey Cokey”). It throws caution to the wind and introduces a third chord, the IV, at some points. > > Unless we are saying that I-IV-V means those chords and in that order, in which case we are limited to Wild Thing / Twist and Shout / La Bamba, etc. https://www.youtube.com/embed/YtfdEk8PT-M?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque Here’s the common arrangement I’ve heard for the past half century in my experience. I-V-I ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/28 "2014-03-23T18:15:48Z")
Did you ever wonder … what if the Hokey Pokey really _was_ what it was all about? ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/29 "2014-03-23T18:18:53Z")
And here is the Hokey Cokey, with the IV chord in the refrain: [- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK0M0v-j4-c) ---
**Author:** ![SirGalahad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@SirGalahad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirGalahad)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/30 "2014-03-23T18:22:23Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Mustang Sally > Twist and Shout > The Locomotion > The Hokey Pokey > Louie, Louie > Double Shot (Of My Baby’s Love) > [@Ximenean](#): > > All I-IV-V. Second Stone said “Hokey Pokey”, not “Hokey Cokey”. Okee Dokey? ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/31 "2014-03-23T18:44:00Z")
The Who - Can’t Explain, My Generation (especially good if the youngest musician is in his mid 40’s. The Yardbirds - For Your Love, Heart Full Of Soul The Rolling Stones - Satisfaction, Jumping Jack Flash The Kinks - You Really Got Me, All Day and All of the Night. Reverend Richard Penniman - Long Tall Sally, Tutti Frutti Buddy Holly - Not Fade Away, Rave On You need some slow dances - Let It Be Me, Devoted, If I Fell, Cryin’ In The Rain. Hello, Mary Lou. ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/32 "2014-03-23T19:07:49Z")
> [@SirGalahad](#): > > Second Stone said “Hokey Pokey”, not “Hokey Cokey”. > > Okee Dokey? OK, I acknowledge that the US variant lacks the harmonic subtlety of the Hokey Cokey. ---
**Author:** ![SirGalahad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@SirGalahad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirGalahad)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/33 "2014-03-23T20:26:08Z")
> [@Ximenean](#): > > OK, I acknowledge that the US variant lacks the harmonic subtlety of the Hokey Cokey. Well, bless your heart. ---
**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/34 "2014-03-23T20:56:43Z")
Thanks. It’s rare that one comes across such charitable sentiments on what can be a needlessly fractious board, at times. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/35 "2014-03-23T21:23:45Z")
Chuck Berry uses local musicians whenever he tours because as [this article](http://www.vulture.com/2013/10/jody-rosen-chuck-berry-87th-birthday.html) points out > [@](#): > > . . . if you can’t play the twelve-bar blues that Berry’s songbook is built on — if, for that matter, you don’t know Chuck Berry’s songbook — you’ve got no business being a rock-and-roll musician. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/36 "2014-03-23T21:31:28Z")
Wonderwall (I still remember watching the sun set in Paris from Sacré Cœur and there was a street musician playing this and people from all over the world singing along in thick accents) ---
**Author:** ![GreenElf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@GreenElf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenElf)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283/37 "2014-03-24T00:47:38Z")
Misty Maple Leaf Rag The Entertainer Piano Man Fur Elise [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-non-i-iv-v-that-every-gigging-musician-should-be-able-to-play/684283.md?page=1)