# Songs or Lyrics That Make You Say "Yuck"

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 19, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827 "2018-03-19T15:21:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/81 "2018-03-21T05:20:43Z")

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> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> Yeah name one other rock song where “little girl” is an endearment. There may be one; all I can think of is “Sooner see you dead little girl than to see you with another man,” or “Hey little girl, it’s all over for you.”
> 
> Name one woman you know who thinks “little girl” is any kind of endearment. Even actual little girls don’t like it!

Good grief! If someone calls their girlfriend or boyfriend ‘baby’ do you think they’re talking about an infant?

Still, I’ll play along:

**Dee Clark** : _Hey Little Girl_

**Donnie Osmand** : Same song

**The Sylvers** : Same song

**Icehouse** : _Hey Little Girl_ (different song)

**Del Shannon** : _Hey Little Girl_ (different song than any above)

**Syndicate of Sound** : _Little Girl_

**Jack Jones** : _Wives and Lovers_ (Hey, little girl, comb your hair, fix your makeup)

**Cody Groves** : _This Little Girl_ (…is capable of murder)

**Journey** : _Little Girl_ (different song still)

**Monkees** : _Little Girl_ (another different song)

**The Swampseeds** : _Hey, Little Girl, can I carry your balloon?_

😃

Now, to get back to _I’m On Fire_, do the other lyrics mean anything to you at all? Did you and your ‘intelligent and sophisticated’ friends merely hear the words ‘little girl’ and ‘is your daddy home’ and immediately flip the volume of that pervy pedophile song completely off without having heard another word? Take a look at the complete lyrics:

_Hey little girl is your daddy home  
Did he go away and leave you all alone  
…_

See there where he says, “can he do to you the things that I do”? He’s clearly already had sex with her and is jealous of the other guy. He’s trying to convince her to leave the other guy and come to him because he thinks that being a better lover should win her over.

How you, your intelligent and sophisticated friends, or anyone else under the sun, can conclude that the female in this song is a child is anyone’s guess, but it’s wildly mistaken. Where’s your critical thinking? The lyrics aside, do you really think Bruce Springsteen would write a song about screwing a child when her father isn’t home and then asking her if he isn’t better lover than her father? Do you really think it would have gotten mainstream radio airplay if he did? And assuming both of those, that there would have been no public outcry?

How you can continue to hold on to this line of thought despite all evidence to the contrary truly boggles the mind. If you still want to believe this song is about a guy trying to outbed an incestuous pedophile father for the love of his child, then go right ahead, as there’s clearly nothing that will convince you otherwise. As for me, I’m done on the subject.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/82 "2018-03-21T12:19:17Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> My take on it is that ‘little girl’ is a term of endearment for his young married and paramour, and that the ‘daddy’ who has left her all alone is her husband.

You’re absolutely right. It’s still icky.

“If we’re gonna role-play, can it be…something _else_? Like, anything else.”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/83 "2018-03-21T12:33:43Z")

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> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> Yeah name one other rock song where “little girl” is an endearment. There may be one; all I can think of is “Sooner see you dead little girl than to see you with another man,” or “Hey little girl, it’s all over for you.”
> 
> Name one woman you know who thinks “little girl” is any kind of endearment. Even actual little girls don’t like it!

I call my wife “babe” and “baby”… ?

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**Author:** ![jaycat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat/32/3015_2.png) [@jaycat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jaycat)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/84 "2018-03-21T13:30:51Z")

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> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> Yeah name one other rock song where “little girl” is an endearment. There may be one; all I can think of is “Sooner see you dead little girl than to see you with another man,” or “Hey little girl, it’s all over for you.”
> 
> Name one woman you know who thinks “little girl” is any kind of endearment. Even actual little girls don’t like it!

Not to mention that terrible, awful, disgusting tune,[Little Boy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZa3IWQTiuE)…

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**Author:** ![TRC4941](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trc4941/32/6792_2.png) [@TRC4941](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TRC4941)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/85 "2018-03-21T14:02:09Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> Keeping it a mystery, it gets to me  
> Running down the length of my thigh, Sharona
> 
> reminds me of ejaculate, so yuck.  
> “She’s Having My Baby” repulses me the worst.
> 
> And in memory of my Mom, “Brandy, you’re a fine girl What a good wife you would be” :eek:

What’s wrong with “Brandy”!? That was my favorite song when I was a tween. I still like it!

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/86 "2018-03-21T14:32:00Z")

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> [@TRC4941](#):
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> What’s wrong with “Brandy”!? That was my favorite song when I was a tween. I still like it!

My mom did not like women being reduced to the role of a “good wife”.

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/87 "2018-03-21T14:43:46Z")

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> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> Yeah name one other rock song where “little girl” is an endearment. There may be one; all I can think of is “Sooner see you dead little girl than to see you with another man,” or “Hey little girl, it’s all over for you.”
> 
> Name one woman you know who thinks “little girl” is any kind of endearment. Even actual little girls don’t like it!

I can see that “little girl” is a term of endearment, in the song and IIRL (in some places). I’m sure sophisticates aren’t throwing it around but it’s pretty clear to some of us it’s nothing more (in the song’s case).

I’ve had boyfriends use it in reference \*to \*me (as opposed to directly calling me that). Never made me raise an eyebrow.

I can see a case being made for the creepy on _the surface_, but when you really look at it, there’s no _there_ there.

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**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/88 "2018-03-21T15:20:08Z")

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Just want to clarify why I brought up “I’m on Fire” ----

Regardless of what Springsteen’s intent with the lyrics was, they still make me say “yuck” and that was the point of the thread. It had nothing to do with what the author meant, it only had to do with how I (or others) perceived it.

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**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/89 "2018-03-21T15:21:38Z")

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Heart’s “All I Wanna Do” - lady meets some guy, has sexytime with him (“I am the flower you are the seed, we walked in the garden we planted a tree”), then shows up a year later with a baby (“You can imagine his surprise when he saw his own eyes”) - barf.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/90 "2018-03-21T15:30:13Z")

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For a different type of yuck, there’s “He Hit Me (and It Felt Like a Kiss)” by the Crystals.

> **[The Crystals – He Hit Me (It Felt Like a Kiss)](https://genius.com/The-crystals-he-hit-me-it-felt-like-a-kiss-lyrics)**
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> This 1962 number was written by Gerry Goffin (lyrics) and Carole King (music), and produced by Phil Spector. It was inspired by the real-life experiences Goffin and King’s

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/91 "2018-03-21T20:08:56Z")

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[Moderating]  
A reminder, everyone: Quoting short excerpts of a song is OK under fair use, but quoting the entire lyrics is a copyright violation. Either find a few lines that get the point across, or link to the lyrics elsewhere.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/92 "2018-03-21T20:13:30Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> [Moderating]  
> A reminder, everyone: Quoting short excerpts of a song is OK under fair use, but quoting the entire lyrics is a copyright violation. Either find a few lines that get the point across, or link to the lyrics elsewhere.

How does that work with a song like _Wipeout_?

🙂

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/93 "2018-03-21T20:21:36Z")

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Surprised there’s no mention of “Heart-Shaped Box” by Nirvana:

_“Broken hymen of your highness I’m left back / Throw down your umbilical noose so I can climb right back.”  
“I’ve been drawn into your magnet tar-pit trap / I wish I could eat your cancer when you turn black.”_

There’s a grindcore band called **Carcass** whose entire oeuvre seems to be songs about medical pathology. Typical song titles are: “Cadaveric Incubator of Endoparasites”, “Vomited Anal Tract”, “Swarming Vulgar Mass of Infected Virulency”, “Feast on Dismembered Carnage”, “Hepatic Tissue Fermentation”, and so on. Not sure if they count since their lyrics are completely unintelligible.

> [@kayaker](#):
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> [_Screamin’ Jay Hawkins_ song **Constipation Blues**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAzSvhioo34). Yuck.

Haha. Oh man, can I totally relate to this one this week.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/94 "2018-03-21T20:48:05Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> [Moderating]  
> A reminder, everyone: Quoting short excerpts of a song is OK under fair use, but quoting the entire lyrics is a copyright violation. Either find a few lines that get the point across, or link to the lyrics elsewhere.

Thanks, I had completely forgotten about copyright issues in posting the lyrics to that song (probably because there are so few of them). Anyway, my apologies.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/95 "2018-03-21T22:04:17Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Good grief! If someone calls their girlfriend or boyfriend ‘baby’ do you think they’re talking about an infant?

Springsteen himself uses it at least one other time and doubles, nay, triples, down by throwing in a “baby” 🙂 and a real baby!

Little girl I wanna marry you

I see you walking, baby, down the street  
Pushing that baby carriage at your feet  
I see that lonely ribbon in your hair  
Tell me am I the man for whom you put it there

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/96 "2018-03-21T22:08:42Z")

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Bruce again! But the little gets repeated for the rhythm of it.

I met a little girl and I settled down  
In a little house out on the edge of town  
We got married, and swore we’d never part  
Then little by little we drifted from each other’s heart

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**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/97 "2018-03-22T00:32:27Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Good grief! If someone calls their girlfriend or boyfriend ‘baby’ do you think they’re talking about an infant?
> 
> Still, I’ll play along:
> 
> **Dee Clark** : _Hey Little Girl_
> 
> **Donnie Osmand** : Same song
> 
> **The Sylvers** : Same song

Hey, she didn’t want him, she closed that door.

> [@](#):
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> **Icehouse** : _Hey Little Girl_ (different song)

Sounds like a breakup song!

> [@](#):
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> **Del Shannon** : _Hey Little Girl_ (different song than any above)

Okay, I will accept this one as an endearment. A demeaning endearment but, okay.

> [@](#):
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> **Syndicate of Sound** : _Little Girl_

Mentioned; not an endearment

> [@](#):
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> **Jack Jones** : _Wives and Lovers_ (Hey, little girl, comb your hair, fix your makeup)

If this one sounds like an endearment to you, you must be male.

> [@](#):
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> **Cody Groves** : _This Little Girl_ (…is capable of murder)

Don’t know this one but it sure doesn’t sound like an endearment…

> [@](#):
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> **Journey** : _Little Girl_ (different song still)

Okay. An endearment

> [@](#):
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> **Monkees** : _Little Girl_ (another different song)

Breakup song, not an endearment

> [@](#):
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> **The Swampseeds** : _Hey, Little Girl, can I carry your balloon?_

Undecided on this one, because hey, she’s got a fucking balloon. Maybe actual little girl.

I am going to add the Beatles song to my tally, since I already mentioned it. Not an endearment.

Tally: Not an endearment-7  
Definitely an endearment-2  
Undecided-2

(I’m not good w)ith numbers, don’t judge)

> [@](#):
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> Now, to get back to _I’m On Fire_, do the other lyrics mean anything to you at all? Did you and your ‘intelligent and sophisticated’ friends merely hear the words ‘little girl’ and ‘is your daddy home’ and immediately flip the volume of that pervy pedophile song completely off without having heard another word? Take a look at the complete lyrics:
> 
> _Hey little girl is your daddy home  
> Did he go away and leave you all alone  
> …_
> 
> See there where he says, “can he do to you the things that I do”? He’s clearly already had sex with her and is jealous of the other guy. He’s trying to convince her to leave the other guy and come to him because he thinks that being a better lover should win her over.

No, he has not clearly had sex with her. He wants to. She’s driving him crazy. Probably all her fault. Of course I’ve heard the whole damned song. I said, with a better choice of lyrics it could have been a good song. Admittedly I am not a Springsteen fan.

> [@](#):
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> How you, your intelligent and sophisticated friends, or anyone else under the sun, can conclude that the female in this song is a child is anyone’s guess, but it’s wildly mistaken. Where’s your critical thinking? The lyrics aside, do you really think Bruce Springsteen would write a song about screwing a child when her father isn’t home and then asking her if he isn’t better lover than her father? Do you really think it would have gotten mainstream radio airplay if he did? And assuming both of those, that there would have been no public outcry?

No, on hearing the rest of the song that’s not what I would conclude. But realistically. The first couple of lines? We are not people who call men we’re fucking our “daddies.” We don’t know anyone who does that. If you’re going to call grown women “little girl” then what in fucking hell are you going to call a 10-year-old female child? I do hope you can tell the difference.

But, best case, he’s lusting after another man’s woman. Hanging around waiting to see if the man leaves so he can go in and pounce with his “bad desire.” See, he admits it. “I got a bad desire.” _A bad desire_. So he is (1) demeaning and infantizing a woman, while (2) she belongs to another man, and (3) he knows it’s bad. Unless “bad” means something else in your universe. And that is the BEST reading.

> [@](#):
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> How you can continue to hold on to this line of thought despite all evidence to the contrary truly boggles the mind. If you still want to believe this song is about a guy trying to outbed an incestuous pedophile father for the love of his child, then go right ahead, as there’s clearly nothing that will convince you otherwise. As for me, I’m done on the subject.

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Wait. “Outbed an incestuous pedophile father”? Eh, I’ve got my evidence, this is a creepy song. I guess I can see why raging rapey hormonal men love it.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/98 "2018-03-22T07:02:05Z")

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> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> No, he has not clearly had sex with her. He wants to.

What, then, do you suppose he means by the words, “Tell me, baby, is your daddy home, can he do to you the things that I do, mhmm?”?

> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> driving him crazy. Probably all her fault.

Undoubtedly. :rolleyes:

> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> Of course I’ve heard the whole damned song. I said, with a better choice of lyrics it could have been a good song. Admittedly I am not a Springsteen fan.
> 
> No, on hearing the rest of the song that’s not what I would conclude. But realistically. The first couple of lines? We are not people who call men we’re fucking our “daddies.”

She didn’t call the missing guy her daddy, the song’s protagonist did. And probably as a mild form of derision in order to make her feel unloved and unappreciated by that guy.

> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> If you’re going to call grown women “little girl” then what in fucking hell are you going to call a 10-year-old female child? I do hope you can tell the difference.

Certainly. I also know that words can have more than one meaning and more than one context. If I call a girlfriend ‘baby’, for example, I also know that I can perfectly well call a baby that as well. These words aren’t mutually exclusive.

> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> But, best case, he’s lusting after another man’s woman. Hanging around waiting to see if the man leaves so he can go in and pounce with his “bad desire.” See, he admits it. “I got a bad desire.” _A bad desire_. So he is (1) demeaning and infantizing a woman, while (2) she belongs to another man, and (3) he knows it’s bad. Unless “bad” means something else in your universe.

It certainly can. It can mean something is cool (“His car was the baddest”) and it can be used to indicate intensity of want or desire (“She wanted that house so bad”). The latter is how it’s used in _IOF_. Bruce was writing that the song’s protagonist wanted her badly, not that he wanted her for bad reasons. I’d LOL at that if this weren’t the Dope.

> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> Wait. “Outbed an incestuous pedophile father”?

Of course, what else could you be supposing? The protagonist asks “Can he do to you the things that I do…mmm hmm? I can take you higher” Just what is it you think he’s talking about if not sex and love? And if it is sex and the absent man is the girl/child’s father as you suppose, then clearly he’s asking her to consider that the things he does in bed are better than those done by her father, which would make her father both incestuous and a pedophile, yes, no?

> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> Eh, I’ve got my evidence, this is a creepy song.

No, you’ve simply put a creepy spin on a lust-driven song about an adult relationship.

> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#):
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> I guess I can see why raging rapey hormonal men love it.

Oh, so now we’ve got rape involved too, huh? What on earth is there in that song that you think makes the guy rapey? At the beginning of the song he’s trying to get her to meet with him and at the end he’s waking up frustrated in the middle of the night, pleading with her to ‘cool his desire’. Sounds like she’s the one calling the shots and setting the terms to me.

And hormonal men? Is it your belief that only men get lusty about the opposite sex?

I think we’re beginning to see the underlying problem with your objection to this song, and it’s a three-letter word starting with ‘m’ and ending with ‘n’.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/99 "2018-03-22T13:21:34Z")

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I consider Styx’s Come Sail Away my theme song, and will have it sung at my funeral. But changing the line:

We live happily forever so the story goes  
But somehow we missed out on that pot of gold  
But we’ll try best that we can to carry on.

It’s so obvious that line should have been:

We live happily ever after the story’s told.  
But somehow we missed out on that pot of gold  
But we’ll try best that we can to carry on.

I don’t know why it wasn’t.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-or-lyrics-that-make-you-say-yuck/810827/100 "2018-03-22T13:31:33Z")

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There’s an extra syllable in your revision. It may have thrown off the rhythm/meter, in their opinion.

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