# Songs relating to ethics

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**Created:** [April 14, 2007, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-relating-to-ethics/400143 "2007-04-14T20:39:00Z")
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For part of my final project in my Ethics & Values class at my university I am compiling a playlist of songs with ethics related themes. I’m looking for really diverse, quirky, smart and just plain good stuff. I also feel obliged to explore all sides of an issue where possible.

I would also like to stress that this is not a case of “do my homework for me”. For one thing this is only part of the final project and further I will be exploring the songs and their meanings through in-depth essays. But in the interest of full disclosure I felt I’d better mention the above.

So I submit it to my fellow dopers: what are your favorite songs dealing with (or relating to) ethics?

The following are examples of the topics I’d like to focus on and the songs I have come up with.

**Human Nature:**  
Superman’s Song - The Crash Test Dummies  
Knowledge - Operation Ivy

**Economics:**  
The World Isn’t Fair - Randy Newman  
Pull Up The People - MIA  
So Says I - The Shins  
Fortunate Son - Credence Clearwater Revival

**Gender, Sex & Family:**  
Boys & Girls - Blur  
Ladies First - Queen Latifah  
Gonna Beat My Wife - Dead Milkmen

**Meaning & Memory:**  
Everything You Can Think - Tom Waits  
Art Is Hard - Cursive

**Punishment & Surveillance:**  
Police Beat - SS Decontrol  
I Fought The Law - Dead Kennedys version  
Civil Disobedience - Camper Van Beethoven

**Religion & Religious Ethics:**  
Atheist Peace - Bad Religion  
Good Book Song - The New Main Street Singers (Mighty Wind Sountrack)  
Dear God - XTC  
Take Me To Your Leader - The Newsboys

**Race, Ethnicity & Nation:**  
Hate - Skankin’ Pickle  
Weeds - Pulp

So, dopers, what say you?

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For Race, Ethnicity, & Nation, I nominate _National Brotherhood Week_ by Tom Lehrer.

_Paint it Black_ by the Rolling Stones could make for an interesting song about human nature.

_Redneck Woman_ by Gretchen Wilson for the categories of Economics or Race, Ethnicity & Nation

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For economics, how about, "[Driving the Last Spike"](http://www.lyricsfreak.com/g/genesis/driving+the+last+spike_20058881.html) by Genesis?

Tells a story about the building of the railroads. Not a common topic in popular music.

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"You’d better do right  
“Like some other men do . . .”

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For Economics: “Money Becomes King,” by Tom Petty (on _The Last DJ_)

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Two replies and no Rush, the world’s smartest band[sup]TM[/sup]?

**Human Nature:**  
Cut to the Chase  
Everyday Glory  
Fly By Night  
The Enemy Within  
Kid Gloves  
Time Stand Still  
Second Nature  
Lock and Key  
Tom Sawyer  
Grand Designs  
Marathon  
Mystic Rhythms  
Chain Lightning  
The Analog Kid  
Digital Man  
Driven

**Economics:**  
Something for Nothing  
The Big Money

**Gender, Sex & Family:**  
Animate  
Cold Fire  
Entre Nous

**Meaning & Memory:**  
Closer to the Heart  
The Spirit of Radio  
Lakeside Park  
Between the Wheels  
Mission  
Prime Mover  
Dreamline  
Bravado  
Face Up  
The Big Wheel  
You Bet Your Life  
Test for Echo

**Punishment & Surveillance:**  
Red Sector A  
The Weapon

**Religion & Religious Ethics:**  
Turn the Page  
Vital Signs  
Natural Science  
Presto  
Roll the Bones  
Ghost of a Chance  
Totem

**Race, Ethnicity & Nation:**  
Alien Shore  
The Camera Eye  
Witch Hunt  
The Spirit of Radio  
Free Will  
Manhattan Project  
Territories  
New World Man  
Half the World

**Political Thought:**  
Bastille Day  
Beneath, Between, and Behind  
Anthem  
Distant Early Warning  
Red Lenses  
The Trees  
Red Tide  
Heresy

That’s a starter for you.

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I think this would fit under the Human Nature category:

Peter Gabriel: [The Barry Willaims Show](http://www.lyricsondemand.com/p/petergabriellyrics/thebarrywilliamsshowlyrics.html) from his album UP.

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If I systematically thought about all the songs I know, I’d probably come up with a different and better list, but off the top of my head, here are the first things my brain gave me:

**Racism & Friendship** :  
[Your Racist Friend](http://tmbw.net/wiki/Lyrics:Your_Racist_Friend) - They Might Be Giants

**Anger, Justice, & World Politics**  
[If I Had a Rocket Launcher](http://cockburnproject.net/songs&music/iiharl.html) - Bruce Cockburn

**Religious Ethics & Hypocrisy**  
[Hide the Beer, the Pastor’s Here!](http://www.danielamos.com/swirly/outdoorelvis/hidethebeerthepastorshere.html) - The Swirling Eddies  
(All my links are to lyrics at ad-free, pop-up-free sites.)

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**Human Nature:**

“What the Fuck Are We Saying?” - Lenny Kravitz

**Economics:**

“Living Just Enough (In the City)” Stevie Wonder  
“For the Love of Money”-The Ojays  
“Another Day in Paradise”- Genesis

**Gender, Sex & Family:**

“We Are Family”-Sister Sledge  
“Woman is Nigger of the World”-John Lennon

**Meaning & Memory:**

“Cat’s Cradle”

**Punishment & Surveillance:**

“I’ll Be Watching You” - The Police

**Race, Ethnicity & Nation:**

“That’s Just the Way It Is” Bruce Hornsby  
“Southern Man”-Neil Young  
“I’m Black and I’m Proud” - James Brown

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The subject matter of some of these songs overlap the OP’s categories.

**Human Nature:**  
“Less Than Zero” by Elvis Costello  
“Political World” by Bob Dylan

**Economics:**  
“It’s Money that Matters” by Randy Newman  
“Ghost of Tom Joad” by Bruce Springsteen or Rage Against the Machine  
“Money” by Pink Floyd (obviously)

**Gender, Sex & Family:**  
“Tear Off Your Own Head” by Elvis Costello or The Bangles  
“This Is Hardcore” by Pulp  
“Glory Box” by Portishead  
“Supervixen” by Garbage  
“Respect” by Aretha Franklin

**Meaning & Memory:**  
“Glory Days” by Bruce Springsteen  
“Reason to Believe” by Bruce Springsteen

**Punishment & Surveillance:**  
“Green Shirt” by Elvis Costello  
“Folsom Prison Blues” by Johnny Cash

**Religion & Religious Ethics:**  
“The Mighty Quinn” by Manfred Mann or Bob Dylan  
“Gotta Serve Somebody” by Bob Dylan  
“He Gives Us All His Love” by Randy Newman

**Race, Ethnicity & Nation:**  
“Inner City Blues” by Marvin Gaye  
“Fight the Power” by Public Enemy

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_Date Rape_ and _Wrong Way_ by Sublime.

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Boy Cried Wolf–Patti Smith  
All She Wants to Do is Dance–Don Henley

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I took care to try to select the songs that really address ethical choices, engaging in the subject more deeply than most.  
File under “Human Nature”:

XTC’s [“The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul”](http://chalkhills.org/reelbyreal/s_Man.html): the narrator sings a cautionary tale of a man who was egotistical, greedy, and failed to sustain relationships… and who dies all alone. (As with all the XTC ones, scroll down for the lyrics.)  
Under that or “Meaning & Memory,” because these are about social hypocrisies & maintaining appearances:

XTC’s [“Respectable Street”](http://chalkhills.org/reelbyreal/s_Respectable.html) and [“No Thugs In Our House”](http://chalkhills.org/reelbyreal/s_Thugs.html) (which is also about evading justice).  
Under “Gender, Sex & Family”:

Robert Cray’s [“Right Next Door (Because of Me)”](http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/robert_cray/right_next_door_because_of_me.html): the rueful narrator tells the sad story of how he gave in to temptation, seduced his neighbor, and how his sexual selfishness ruined lives.  
Under “Economics”:

Superchunk’s [“Slack Motherfucker”](http://adserving.cpxinteractive.com/rw?title=&qs=iframe3%3FRB4AAGTxAgD4DwQAHpIBAAMAAAAAAP8AAAD%2E%2EwACAAK2uAIA8I4CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVTAqqRPQ4j8AAAAAAAAAAI5QRm%2ELWu8%2EAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAt5ukPZp%2DagLlZtdxiWFyap%2Dw9C%2De6t4LjhPR8gAAAAA%3D%2C%2Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etabcrawler%2Ecom%2Fsearch%2Ephp%3Fshow%3Dviewfile%26letter%3Ds%26artist%3Dsuperchunk%26tabname%3Dslack%2520motherfucker%2520lyrics%26tabtype%3Dlyrics%26id%3D348039): the narrator resents his lazy, slack co-worker for not pulling his own weight (and for enjoying his cigarette breaks too much).

XTC’s [“Towers of London”](http://chalkhills.org/reelbyreal/s_Towers.html): about the human toll paid in the building of England’s infrastructure. Don’t overlook the sidebar explanatory notes!

XTC’s [“The Smartest Monkeys”](http://chalkhills.org/reelbyreal/s_Smartest.html): this one’s a sarcastic diatribe against the persistence of gross socio-economic inequality.  
File under “Race…” and “Economics”:

XTC’s [“Human Alchemy”](http://chalkhills.org/reelbyreal/s_Human.html): about the “alchemy” of slavery – turning the suffering of blacks into wealth for whites – and, crucially, how this also degraded the master class (“Although we held the whip, you knew we were the real slaves”).  
Under “Punishment & Surveillance”:

XTC’s [“Real By Reel”](http://chalkhills.org/reelbyreal/s_Real.html)

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Some of these may not be what the OP is looking for, but off the top of my head I came up with:

“A Month of Sundays” by Don Henley, re: business ethics and rural values

“The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia” by Vicki Lawrence (later covered by Reba McEntire), re: murder, and passivity in the face of injustice

“Personal Jesus” by Depeche Mode, re: televangelism and religious exploitation

“War (What Is It Good For?),” by Edwin Starr, re: the insanity of armed conflict (duh!); likewise “Peace Train” by Cat Stevens

“Live and Let Die” by Wings, re: harsh indifference to the needs of others; narcissism and selfishness

“Run to You” by Bryan Adams, re: infidelity

“We May Never Pass This Way Again,” by Seals & Crofts, re: awareness of the brevity of life and the need to be kind to others; likewise “Shower the People” by James Taylor

“Holiday” by Green Day, re: citizen activism and dissent

“We Shall Be Free” by Garth Brooks, re: everyone’s responsibility to improve the world

“Wernher Von Braun” by Tom Lehrer, re: apolitical militarism

“Welcome to the Machine” by Pink Floyd, re: conformity and consumerism

“Shock the Monkey” by Peter Gabriel, re: vivisection and animal rights

“The Fire Down Below,” by Bob Seger, re: sexual exploitation

“Song for the Dead,” by Randy Newman, re: duty and sacrifice for your country; likewise “Just a Job to Do” by Genesis

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Great suggestions everybody, much thanks!

Here I was worried that I’d hear a bunch of suggestions I had already thought of, but not a single one has been.

Its perfectly alright if some songs span categories since creativity and critical thought alike are goals in this class.

Just as an aside, the class has been a blast. It completely shattered my notions of what an Ethics & Values course would be. The “texts” for our class have ranged from Plato to Pink Floyd to Hedwig an the Angry Inch. The mix-tape component of my final project is definitely in keeping with the tone of our discourse this semester.

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FWIW, [**Let’s Misbehave**](http://www.lyricskeeper.com/cole_porter-lyrics/225788-lets_misbehave-lyrics.htm) by Cole Porter is a pretty startling set of lyrics, especially given the high liklihood of eventual pregnancy, degradation, poverty, and possible prostitution its object seems likely to lead to for the recipient. It seems to me far more suitable to be sung by Christopher Walken as a pimp baiting his hook (_Pennies From Heaven_ - the really only great scene in the movie, IMHO) than by a man trying to win a girl into bed!

It’s also a good example of how such songs did not originate in the fifties or strictly by the labor movements.

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**Economics:**  
Language or the Kiss - Indigo Girls  
Money Changes Everything - Cyndi Lauper  
When Sal’s Burned Down - Dar Williams

**Gender, Sex & Family:**  
When I Was a Boy - Dar Williams  
Under the Disco Ball - Jill Sobule  
Wonder - Natalie Merchant  
Better Man - Pearl Jam  
Not the Guy - Dan Bern  
Lousy Boy - Jian  
Supermodel - Jill Sobule  
I Kissed a Girl - Jlll Sobule  
I’ll Be Mrs. - Buffy the Musical  
She Bop - Cyndi Lauper  
Who’s So Scared - Sonia / Disappear Fear

**Meaning & Memory:**  
Hurt - Johnny Cash version

**Punishment & Surveillance:**  
Karma Police - Radiohead?  
Don’t Give That Girl a Gun - Indigo Girls  
Janie’s Got a Gun - ?  
Laws of Nature - Disappear Fear  
various - Chicago soundtrack  
When You’re Evil - Voltaire  
Lawyers Guns and Money - Warren Zevon

**Religion & Religious Ethics:**  
I Had No Right - Dar Williams  
Bring Your Own God - Disappear Fear  
The Christians and the Pagans - Dar Williams  
Elegia - K’s Choice  
Galileo - Indigo Girls  
God Thinks - Voltaire  
Longhaired Radical Socialist Jew - Hugh Blemenfeld  
Soldiers of Christ - Jill Sobule  
A Dios Le Pido - Juanes  
And a God Descended - Dar Williams  
Elegia - K’s Choice  
various - Jesus Christ Superstar soundtrack  
Teen for God - Dar Williams  
Every Sperm is Sacred - Monty Python

**Race, Ethnicity & Nation:**  
Vrbana Bridge - Jill Sobule  
Father - Jian  
Beautiful Enemy - Dar Williams

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This project sounds fascinating! You already have a Pulp song, but I think Jarvis Cocker’s [“Running the World”](http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858616060) fits well under **Economics**. I’ll add more later if I think of them. Let us know how it goes!

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[QUOTE=Lisa-go-Blind]  
This project sounds fascinating! You already have a Pulp song, but I think Jarvis Cocker’s [“Running the World”](http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858616060) fits well under **Economics**. I’ll add more later if I think of them. Let us know how it goes!  
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I’ll definitely try to remember and let you all know. Right now I’m up to my ears in it though so I can’t guarantee it won’t all disappear in a drunken haze at the end of the semester 😉

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Someone already nominated Neil Young’s **“Southern Man”** , so I’m going to have to go with **“American Woman”** by The Guess Who. Once you realize that: a) it’s not really about a woman, and b) it was written by Canadians, you can see the message that it’s trying to get across.

**"The Hurricane"** is probably my favorite Bob Dylan song, and it touches on a lot of issues regarding race and the justice system.

**"Don’t Stand So Close to Me"** by The Police has illusions to pedophilia and teacher-student affairs. The slightly more famous **“Roxanne”** touches on prostitution.

There are a whole lotta songs about drugs, etc. **“Cocaine”** by Eric Clapton is a good one.

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