# Songs that are just plain wrong

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 22, 2004, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580 "2004-10-22T11:50:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/41 "2004-10-22T16:43:59Z")

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> [@](#):
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> As far as I can tell, Uncle Kracker has declined to explain the song, but there is also a theory that it’s about drug use, written from the veiwpoint of the drugs she’s addicted to. Not that that makes it any less wrong, just saying is all.

Well the song seems pretty straightforward to me.

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> ‘m not worried ‘bout the ring you wear  
> Cuz as long as no one knows than nobody can care  
> You’re feelin’ guilty and I’m well aware  
> But you don’t look ashamed and baby I’m not scared  
> I’m singin’

Married woman. Isn’t afraid of her husband.

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> You’re better off if you don’t ask why  
> I’m not the reason that you go astray and  
> We’ll be all right if you don’t ask me to stay

Don’t question the relationship, it’s your marriage that’s the problem not me, and if you ask for more I’ll dump you. Only the ‘swim through your veins’ part even remotely sounds like drug use and that could just be a referance to how he’s in her blood and she can’t say no to him.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/42 "2004-10-22T16:56:11Z")

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I can’t find who wrote it, but there’s a song called _He Hit Me (And It Felt Like a Kiss)_. I think that’s just slightly wrong.

A quick Google search says it’s a Hole song, but I could swear that there was a version from the late 60’s/early 70’s…

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/43 "2004-10-22T17:07:19Z")

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> [@spoke-](#):
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> If you’re talking about songs that are factually wrong, there’s **U2** ’s song **“Pride in the Name of Love”**. This lyric refers to Martin Luther King, Jr.'s assassination:
> 
> _Early morning April 4  
> Shot rings out in the Memphis sky_
> 
> Incorrect. King was killed in the afternoon.

But, it was early morning _somewhere_.

One of the songs mentioned in Dave Barry’s bad song book from a few years ago was **The Night Chicago Died** , because of the lyric:

_My father was a cop on the east side of Chicago._

The reason it’s cited as bad is that there _is no_ “east” side of Chicago, other than Lake Michigan.

This is of course wrong, as well as biased. There is a very large east side, it just happens to be mostly on the south side.

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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/44 "2004-10-22T17:21:27Z")

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> [@photopat](#):
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> This is of course wrong, as well as biased. There is a very large east side, it just happens to be mostly on the south side.

Moreover, there is a neighborhood of Chicago known as the East Side. It’s small, but it does exist.

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**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/45 "2004-10-22T17:38:21Z")

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> [@D.E.S.K.Top668](#):
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> I always get a chuckle out of the “how romatic” comments for Extreme’s _“More Then Words”_. It’s not romatic, the song’s character is just trying to get laid.

One woman’s romance is another man’s attempt to get laid. Don’t rock the boat, we don’t want the ladies to think that our being romantic is a tactic…

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/46 "2004-10-22T17:50:21Z")

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ANother song, that I cactually enjoy, but is probably just plain wrong is _lovefool_ by the Cardigans.

.  
.  
.

So I cry, I pray and I beg

Love me love me  
Say that you love me  
Fool me fool me  
Go on and fool me  
Love me love me  
Pretend that you love me  
Leave me leave me  
Just say that you need me  
Love me love me  
Say that you love me  
Leave me leave me  
Just say that you need me  
I can’t care 'bout anything but you…  
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I don’t care if you really care  
As long as you don’t go

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/47 "2004-10-22T17:58:25Z")

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> Check please!

Was it something I said?

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**Author:** ![Tentacle\_Monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@Tentacle\_Monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tentacle_Monster)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/48 "2004-10-22T18:01:54Z")

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The song _Last Kiss_. What if she went to hell? What if the schmuck singing the song went on to live a life of virtue, and when he finally died the Big G tells him “I’m sorry, you can’t see her, she’s sucking 16-inch barbed cocks in Hell”?

Also, they don’t get played on the radio, but anything by Pig Vomit is just wrong.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/49 "2004-10-22T18:10:48Z")

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> [@spoke-](#):
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> If you’re talking about songs that are factually wrong, there’s **U2** ’s song **“Pride in the Name of Love”**. This lyric refers to Martin Luther King, Jr.'s assassination:
> 
> _Early morning April 4  
> Shot rings out in the Memphis sky_
> 
> Incorrect. King was killed in the afternoon.

Well, in all fairness, that mistake was later corrected by the group. When U2 performs that song now, they now refer to “Early _evening_” instead.

> [@ArchiveGuy](#):
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> The lyric goes:
> 
> “Never been a sinner  
> I never sinned  
> I got a friend in Jesus”
> 
> The implication being that, now that his friend is Jesus, he’s been redeemed, with his past sins washed away (as if they never occured).
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> That’s how I always took it, at least.

Or, it can be taken ironically as a prideful and cocky boast of spiritual perfection by an overly pious hypocrite.

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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/50 "2004-10-22T18:18:28Z")

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“If You Don’t Know Me By Now” by Harlod Melvin and the Blue Notes, later covered by Simply Red.

> [@Harold Melvin](#):
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> Now girl I know the difference between right and wrong  
> I ain’t gonna do nothing to break up our happy home  
> Oh don’t get so excited when I come home a little late at night  
> Cos we only act like children when we argue fuss and fight

This guy is guilty as sin. He’s fucking half the town and trying to smooth it over with his old lady.

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/51 "2004-10-22T18:20:20Z")

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> [@Jenny Haniver](#):
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> I always thought that “I Love You Just the Way You Are” was kinda messed up though. I mean, “I’m too insecure to allow you to _change your hair_, let allow attempt clever conversation” - yeah, that’s a healthy kind of love.

Well, it may be messed up, but it certainly is accurate. After all, Billy Joel lives by the credo: “marry a hot young supermodel, then divorce her when she gets too old, and marry a supermodel who looks just like my ex-wife did 15 years ago.” Yeah, he likes her just the way she is - 21 years old!

Perhaps this isn’t quite what the OP meant, but I’ve always had a pet peeve against the song “You Make Me Feel Like A Natural Woman.” I can’t help thinking that it implies that Aretha Franklin is NOT a natural woman. I can’t help wondering what she was ‘before the day she met him?’ An automaton? A Stepford Wife? The robot from ‘Metropolis’?

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/52 "2004-10-22T18:20:41Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I can’t find who wrote it, but there’s a song called _He Hit Me (And It Felt Like a Kiss)_. I think that’s just slightly wrong.
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> A quick Google search says it’s a Hole song, but I could swear that there was a version from the late 60’s/early 70’s…

Sounds more like an Ike Turner tune…

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**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/53 "2004-10-22T18:21:58Z")

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\*\*Dan Hicks \*\* has a song called “I’ll Tell You Why That Is”, and of all the situations he mentions in the song, he never really tells you why that is.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/54 "2004-10-22T18:33:20Z")

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I hope this isn’t a double post…

Lou Christies \*Lightning Stricking Again \* is pretty evil. This schmuck is asking his girlfriend to stay faithful while he screws anything that moves because, hey, he’s a guy and can’t help it.

Also, Treat Her Like A Lady has a line: _Strange as it seems, you can’t treat a woman mean._ I’m disturbed that this guy finds the thought of kindness and respect to women to be foreign. What may be worse is that this guy is sending it out as “insider” advice. Apparently, most men are just misogynists and need to be told to be kind to the ladies. AND it’s all just to get laid, so the real lesson is to lie and tell her what she wants to hear so you can get some ass.

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**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/55 "2004-10-22T18:55:10Z")

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Well now-so many comments about how guys in songs are deceptive stinkers.

Would you prefer honest disclosure:

_Well she was tall, hair dark as midnight  
she had a way just like you do  
to make me feel just like a woman should  
you can’t call it cheatin’  
cause she reminds me of you_😉

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**Author:** ![pasunejen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/58956e/32.png) [@pasunejen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pasunejen)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/56 "2004-10-22T19:09:35Z")

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The Beatles’ “Run For Your Life” falls into the scary-wrong category.

\*Well, I’d rather see you dead, little girl,  
Than to be with another man.  
You’d better keep your head, little girl,  
Or I won’t know where I am.

You better run for your life if you can, little girl,  
Hide your head in the sand, little girl–  
Catch you with another man,  
That’s the end  
Little girl.\*

etc., etc.

Okay, Mr. Lennon, cheating is bad. But threatening death? Eep!

It’s worse because the song is bouncy and catchy and until you really sit and listen to the lyrics it registers as just another one of their innocuous early pieces. I can’t stop singing along even now, but I feel dirty every time.

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**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/57 "2004-10-22T19:45:51Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> I can’t find who wrote it, but there’s a song called _He Hit Me (And It Felt Like a Kiss)_. I think that’s just slightly wrong.
> 
> A quick Google search says it’s a Hole song, but I could swear that there was a version from the late 60’s/early 70’s…

Bizarrely enough, that was [written by](http://www.emimusicpub.com/worldwide/artist_profile/gerry-goffin-and-carole-king_profile.html) Gerry Goffin/Carole King and was originally performed by The Crystals. Also interestingly, Spiritualized have a song called “She Kissed Me (It Felt Like a Hit).”

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**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/58 "2004-10-22T20:28:53Z")

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\*I just wanted to kiss someone, I’ve got the moondog blues  
You just happened to be standin’ there  
So won’t you tell me, won’t you tell me the truth:

Are you old enough? Are you old enough?\*

“Are You Old Enough” by Dragon. Charming.

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**Author:** ![JoeSki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b487fb/32.png) [@JoeSki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoeSki)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/59 "2004-10-22T20:32:12Z")

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> [@sleeepy2](#):
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> Not factually wrong, but just gawdawful:
> 
> _If I was a sculptor, but then, no…_
> 
> No eraser on that pencil, Sir Elton??

LMAO 😃 .

That line is truly, God awful. I can’t help but crack a smile whenever I hear it.

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2004, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-are-just-plain-wrong/270580/60 "2004-10-22T20:44:23Z")

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It seems that this thread is apparently turning into a round-up of “pop song pedophilia” lyrics. Oh well then, from “Come Up the Years” by Jefferson Airplane:  
I oughta get goin’  
I shouldn’t stay here and love you  
More than I do  
'Cause you’re so much younger than I am  
Come up the years  
Come up the years  
And love me, love me, love me

A younger girl keeps hangin’ around  
One of the loveliest I’ve ever found  
Blowin’ my mind, stealin’ my heart  
Somebody help me 'fore I fall apart

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