# Songs that reveal amazing dickitude from the singer **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [February 25, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104 "2022-02-25T15:26:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/21 "2022-02-25T16:16:18Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > And he earned extra dickitude credit for " I used to Love Her". I believe he later claimed after he got blowback that the song was actually about a dog. Yeah, right šŸ™„ Even if thatā€™s true, still extreme dickitude. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/22 "2022-02-25T16:22:44Z")
> [@solost](#): > > > [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > > > First song that comes to mind is ā€œRun For Your Lifeā€ by the Beatles: > > > > [ā€¦] > > > > Itā€™s just so jarring, totally out of character for them. > > Also from the Beatles song ā€œFixing a Holeā€: > > > _I used to be cruel to my woman_ > > _I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved_ > > I donā€™t care how much youā€™re getting better and ā€˜changing your sceneā€™, beating and isolating your significant other is straight-up psychopathic. Though McCartney and Lennon shared songwriting credits, I tend to think (very possibly wrongly and unfairly, I admit) that the lyrics to those songs came from Lennon, since he was known to have a mean, dickish streak. I disagree. Beating and isolating your SO isnā€™t psychopathic. Itā€™s just being an awful person. Psychopathy is a mental disorder which can be treated; being an awful person is just being a dick. Most any Lennon song shows a dickist streak. > [@Good Morning](#): > > Itā€™s time for tea and meet the wife > Somebody needs to know the time, glad that Iā€™m here > Watching the skirts you start to flirt, now youā€™re in gear > Go to a show you hope she goes > Iā€™ve got nothing to say but itā€™s okay ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/23 "2022-02-25T16:25:22Z")
Danzigā€™s _Mother_ _Mother_ _Tell your children not to walk my way_ _Tell your children not to hear my words_ _What they mean_ _What they say_ This song rankles me not because heā€™s warning mothers that heā€™s a jerk, but that he portrays himself as a paragon of immorality. Heā€™s not so much a jerk as he is a recurring jerk-off. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/24 "2022-02-25T16:28:25Z")
The Crampsā€™ ā€œTV Setā€ is a bit antisocial. _Oh baby I see you in my Frigidaire_ _Yeah baby I see you in my Frigidaire_ _Behind the mayonnaise, way in the back_ _Iā€™m gonna see you tonight for a midnight snack_ _But though itā€™s cold_ _You wonā€™t get old_ _'Cause youā€™re well preserved in my Frigidaire_ _Yahhhhhhhā€¦_ ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/25 "2022-02-25T16:30:29Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Danzigā€™s _Mother_ I donā€™t know much about Glenn Danzig; for all I know that song is 100% autobiographical. But I think itā€™s fair to point out that some songs are from the point of view of a character. Unlike, say, my Axl Rose example, which I completely believe is all him expressing his own personal odious views. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/26 "2022-02-25T16:30:48Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Also from the Beatles song ā€œFixing a Holeā€: > > > _I used to be cruel to my woman_ > > _I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved_ Not ā€œFixing a Hole,ā€ but ā€œGetting Better.ā€ And [it has been confirmed that John wrote those fucked up lyrics for the song](https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/did-john-lennon-or-paul-mccartney-write-the-dark-lyrics-of-getting-better.html/) (also the lines ā€œIt canā€™t get much worseā€¦ā€) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/27 "2022-02-25T16:34:35Z")
There are a number of comedy songs that go way past ā€œdickitudeā€ and well into ā€œmonstrousā€, but that is entirely the point of them. ā€œA Lap Dance Is So Much Better When The Stripper Is Cryingā€ by Bloodhound Gang (listen at your peril) and ā€œBetter Version of Youā€ by Paul and Storm come immediately to mind. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/28 "2022-02-25T16:35:45Z")
Lennon was an unapologetic woman beater. Heā€™s completely responsible for ā€œRun for Your Lifeā€ and that part of ā€œGetting Betterā€. After the Beatles he did ā€œJealous Guyā€ wherein heā€™s oh so sensitive and honest about his feelings. > I was dreaming of the past > And my heart was beating fast > I began to lose control > I began to lose control > I didnā€™t mean to hurt you > Iā€™m sorry that I made you cry > Oh no, I didnā€™t want to hurt you > Iā€™m just a jealous guy I donā€™t think itā€™s correct to include Sting in a thread called ā€œSongs that reveal amazing dickitude from the singerā€. In Every Breath You Take"" and ā€œDonā€™t Stand so Close to Meā€ heā€™s creating creepy personas but I donā€™t get the sense that the personas are him. I totally think the personas of ā€œRun for Your Lifeā€ and ā€œJealous Guyā€ are Lennon. Really hurts when someone I admire that much as an artist is such a slime. ETA; Knew Fixin a Hole didnā€™t sound right. Thanks @Happy_Lendervedder. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/29 "2022-02-25T16:43:46Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Not ā€œFixing a Hole,ā€ but ā€œGetting Better.ā€ Right, I knew that. And I know the song ā€œFixing a Holeā€. The strange thing is, I thought the song was called ā€œGetting Betterā€, but when I typed ā€œgetting better lyricsā€ into google, the first default display got the right lyrics but the title said ā€œFixing a Holeā€. Odd rare google glitch: [getting better lyrics](https://www.google.com/search?q=getting+better+lyrics&client=firefox-b-1-d&ei=oQUZYteLG7SaptQPuNSq6Ac&ved=0ahUKEwiX4KrxpJv2AhU0jYkEHTiqCn0Q4dUDCA0&uact=5&oq=getting+better+lyrics&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBggAEAcQHjIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgQIABAeMgQIABAeMgQIABAeMgQIABAeOgcIABBHELADOgcIABCwAxBDOgoIABDkAhCwAxgAOgwILhDIAxCwAxBDGAE6DwguENQCEMgDELADEEMYAToECAAQDToICAAQBxAKEB46BggAEA0QHjoICAAQDRAFEB46CAgAEAgQDRAeSgQIQRgASgQIRhgBUPQEWNsoYP8paAFwAXgBgAHfAYgBzA2SAQYxNy4xLjGYAQCgAQHIARPAAQHaAQYIABABGAnaAQYIARABGAg&sclient=gws-wiz) And if I type ā€œ[beatles fixing a hole lyrics](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=beatles+fixing+a+hole+lyrics)ā€ I get the same thing- ā€˜Fixing a Holeā€™ title, ā€˜Getting Betterā€™ lyrics. ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/30 "2022-02-25T16:45:19Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > There are a number of comedy songs that go way past ā€œdickitudeā€ and well into ā€œmonstrousā€, but that is entirely the point of them. Thereā€™s ā€œWeirdā€ Al Yankovicā€™s song ā€œGood Old Daysā€: ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/31 "2022-02-25T16:48:22Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > Really hurts when someone I admire that much as an artist is such a slime. > > ETA; Knew Fixin a Hole didnā€™t sound right. Thanks @Happy_Lendervedder. As I get older and have more years of listening to music, Iā€™ve gotten to the point where Johnā€™s songs (notably his solo stuff, not necessarily his Lennon-McCartney stuff) are largely unlistenable for me. Most (not all, but most) of his stuff is just so freaking joyless and dark and bitter. I get that he had a lot of issues he was working through his entire life, but the kinds of songs he produced just donā€™t do it for me anymore. He was a bitter dick and it showed in his music. IMO, of all the Beatles and ex-Beatlesā€™ catalog, Johnā€™s solo stuff aged the worst, and I attribute it to him being an all-around prick. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/32 "2022-02-25T16:53:34Z")
> [@solost](#): > > t I think itā€™s fair to point out that some songs are from the point of view of a character. Thatā€™s really what I was wondering too. I mean there are a lot of authors who write characters who are well-developed monsters, but the authors themselves may be perfectly nice. Similarly, someone like Christopher Lee played a lot of convincing villains on film, but by all accounts was a very good person. I have little problem believing that musical artists could do the same, and write lyrics for a ā€œcharacterā€ or at least a point-of-view/persona that isnā€™t actually them personally. > [@dorvann](#): > > Thereā€™s ā€œWeirdā€ Al Yankovicā€™s song ā€œGood Old Daysā€: Perfect example of what Iā€™m saying above. Al Yankovic is as best as anyone can tell, a class act and a good person. But he can write a song from the perspective of a psychopath like ā€œGood Old Daysā€ - in fact, thatā€™s part of the humor Iā€™m betting. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/33 "2022-02-25T16:54:32Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > I donā€™t think itā€™s correct to include Sting in a thread called ā€œSongs that reveal amazing dickitude from the singerā€. In Every Breath You Take"" and ā€œDonā€™t Stand so Close to Meā€ heā€™s creating creepy personas but I donā€™t get the sense that the personas are him. I took ā€œthe singerā€ (in the thread title) to be the persona/POV from which the song is sungā€”not (necessarily) the human being who is the vocalist. Analogous to ā€œ[the speaker](https://www.shmoop.com/literature-glossary/speaker.html)ā€ in poetry. ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/34 "2022-02-25T16:55:12Z")
Robin Thicke"s ā€œBlurred Linesā€ ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/35 "2022-02-25T16:57:23Z")
I think ā€œIā€™d Rather See You Deadā€ by Pat Travers might qualify. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/36 "2022-02-25T16:57:47Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > I took ā€œthe singerā€ (in the thread title) to be the persona/POV from which the song is sungā€”not (necessarily) the human being who is the vocalist. Yeah, re-reading the OP, youā€™re probably right-- it looks like the OP meant songs about dickitude, but not that show dickitude of the actual singer / songwriter. At least thatā€™s what I get from the word ā€˜protagonistā€™: > [@Hippy\_Hollow](#): > > Any other songs where the protagonist is cluelessly up their own ass? ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/37 "2022-02-25T17:06:00Z")
Fair enough as long as the distinction is understood. Iā€™m a little sensitive about it having written a few songs myself. I had to be pretty clear about it when I wrote. > My wifeā€™s not getting any cuter. > I need a faster computer. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/38 "2022-02-25T17:11:40Z")
ā€œWe Can Work It Outā€ by the Beatles. Yes, it sounds like the singer is trying to find a reasonable solution to reconcile the two points of view. But there are the lyrics: _Try to see it my way_ _Only time will tell if I am right or I am wrong_ _While you see it your way_ _Thereā€™s a chance that we might fall apart before too long_ So heā€™s saying that his way is the only way to keep them together. Thereā€™s also Mose Allisonā€™s ā€œParchman Farmā€ where it sounds like a lament by a prisoner who has done nothing wrong. He specifically says so. Then it gets to the final line: Well Iā€™m a gonna be here for the rest of my life And all I did was shoot my wife ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/39 "2022-02-25T17:13:13Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > Lennon was an unapologetic woman beater. Heā€™s completely responsible for ā€œRun for Your Lifeā€ and that part of ā€œGetting Betterā€. After the Beatles he did ā€œJealous Guyā€ wherein heā€™s oh so sensitive and honest about his feelings. In his defense, Lennon later became open and repentant about his history of domestic violence. In his last interview, he said it was going to be a long time before he could come clean about some of the things heā€™d done, and speculated that his desire for peace was a subconscious reaction to his shame. For sheer dickitude, itā€™s hard to beat Toby Keithā€™s ā€œHow Do You Like Me Now?ā€ In high school, he spray paints ā€œFor a good time call (the phone number of a girl he likes)ā€ on the football field. For some odd reason, she isnā€™t interested in him. After heā€™s become a big recording star, he gloats over his assumption that sheā€™d come running to him now. He delights in noting that sheā€™s in an unhappy marriage and that ā€œ(her) kids hear (her) cryingā€ privately. Iā€™m sure that if sheā€™d married a prince like Toby, sheā€™d be happy. šŸ˜² ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/40 "2022-02-25T17:16:08Z")
> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#): > > In his defense, Lennon later became open and repentant about his history of domestic violence. In his last interview, he said it was going to be a long time before he could come clean about some of the things heā€™d done, and speculated that his desire for peace was a subconscious reaction to his shame. I honestly hope youā€™re right but he was pretty open and honest in ā€œJealous Guyā€ too. Itā€™s a phase all wife beaters go through. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104.md?page=3)