# Songs that reveal amazing dickitude from the singer **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music\ **Created:** [February 25, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104 "2022-02-25T15:26:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/161 "2022-02-28T10:51:09Z")
Actually my college GF called this out as being dickish when the song came out because they guy is bragging about the crazy girl he had last night, so I listed here to honor her memory. In hindsight maybe she identified and took offense with the crazy part. šŸ¤” ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/162 "2022-02-28T12:58:00Z")
Woefully incorrect interpretation. First of all, the singer is directing at the girl herself. Calling her a little crazy equates to saying sheā€™s a lot of fun. The kind of face that starts a fight means sheā€™s the kind of girl guys would fight over to have. The singer goes on to say how enamored with her he is. There is nothing dickish about this particular song. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/163 "2022-02-28T13:41:17Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > Anericaā€™s ā€œSister Golden Hairā€ shows plenty of dickitude.Guy in the song whines about how _ā€œI aint ready for the altar, but I do agree thereā€™s times, when a woman sure can be a friend of mine.ā€_ In other words heā€™s willing to screw her but not commit. > [@lobotomyboy63](#): > > By this time the birth control pill was widely available. ISTM the woman can dump him for better prospects if marriage is what she has in mind. Yeah, I donā€™t see the dickitude in that one. Thereā€™s nothing dickish in knowing that one isnā€™t ready for marriage. Thereā€™s nothing in the song that necessarily implies a sexual relationship. And even if heā€™s ā€œwilling to screw her,ā€ does that mean anyone who has sex before marriage is a dick? If thereā€™s any dickitude in that song, itā€™s the admission that heā€™s been ā€œone poor correspondent, Iā€™ve been too, too hard to find.ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/164 "2022-02-28T14:02:56Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > Yes, having an affair is wrong. Is a song about having an affair dickitude, though? How about wishing death on your paramourā€™s husband, as in Blue Oyster Cultā€™s ā€œSee You In Blackā€? _Iā€™d like to see you in black_ _Itā€™d make me feel like your husbandā€™s dead_ _Iā€™d like to see you in black_ _We could make him suffer instead_ (the husband has been physically abusing his wife though) ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/165 "2022-02-28T15:07:58Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Yes, she was very young when they first met, 17, but not a child 17 is literally a child. ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/166 "2022-02-28T16:56:59Z")
I certainly think the realization is fair, and it probably bodes well for both. But itā€™s how Pete Burns says it that is sooo horribleā€¦ _Your sweet nature, darling_ _Was too hard to swallow_ _Iā€™ve got the solution_ _Iā€™m leaving tomorrow_ Then this is in thereā€¦ _Now other loves will tell you that Iā€™m nothing but a pleasure-seeker Well, for once I really must agree I need to leave you by yourself_ It just seems like heā€™s twisting the knife unnecessarily. ā€œYouā€™re too nice, so Iā€™m leaving you!ā€ But at least I guess there is some self-awareness in the above stanza. But thereā€™s actually something that belies some insecurity from olā€™ Pete in the chorus - he says ā€œSomebody real nice to me/Who doesnā€™t notice all the others.ā€ So is that hinting that his old lover had a wandering eye, or that heā€™s so egotistical he wants to be the only focus in his partnerā€™s life? I think we should contact Pete Burns and tell him weā€™re digging into his lyrics in this wayā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/167 "2022-02-28T17:27:22Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > How about wishing death on your paramourā€™s husband, as in Blue Oyster Cultā€™s ā€œSee You In Blackā€? Definitely dickitude. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/168 "2022-02-28T18:13:46Z")
OTHELLO Down, fall, down, fall, strumpet! DESDEMONA Mercy! OTHELLO Die!! DESDEMONA Let me live tonightā€¦ OTHELLO No! DESDEMONA One hourā€¦ OTHELLO No! DESDEMONA An instant. OTHELLO No! DESDEMONA But while I say one prayer. OTHELLO It is too late! _(He smothers her.)_ Definitely dickish. ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/169 "2022-03-01T17:54:55Z")
I nominate Zappaā€™s ā€œMagdalenaā€ as a candidate for thread winner. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/170 "2022-03-01T18:26:52Z")
Blech! ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/171 "2022-03-01T22:02:08Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > > [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > > > Yes, she was very young when they first met, 17, but not a child > > 17 is literally a child. I wasnā€™t a child at 17. Legally a minor, but in no way a child. YMMV ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/172 "2022-03-01T23:11:33Z")
Gee, I wish I hadnā€™t looked up the lyrics. Ugh. You win the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/173 "2022-03-01T23:45:24Z")
Would ā€œI Can See For Milesā€ qualify? Certainly panopticonny. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/174 "2022-03-02T15:20:16Z")
> [@TreacherousCretin](#): > > Zappaā€™s ā€œMagdalenaā€ Wow, I havenā€™t heard that song since high school (when we slit the cellophane wrapper on the then-new album _Just Another Band from L.A._). But when I saw _Magdalena_ referenced, I immediately replayed the whole song in my head. _ā€œDooo you haaave any ideeeeeaā€¦ā€_ Listening to the song, rather than just reading the lyrics, you get the disdain Frank feels for the protagonist (and all the ā€œPlastic Peopleā€; middle-management toadies of his day, whoā€™d sold out to the American Dream). ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/175 "2022-03-02T19:56:35Z")
The All-American Rejects, _Gives You Hell_ ā€œIf you find a man thatā€™s worth a damn and treats you well, Then heā€™s a fool, youā€™re just as well, hope it gives you hell.ā€ ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/176 "2022-03-02T21:40:58Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Listening to the song, rather than just reading the lyrics, you get the disdain Frank feels for the protagonist (and all the ā€œPlastic Peopleā€; middle-management toadies of his day, whoā€™d sold out to the American Dream). Frank Zappa was openly disdainful if not contempuous of just about anyone who wasnā€™t Frank Zappa. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/177 "2022-03-02T23:10:39Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > I donā€™t understand whatā€™s dickish about this song or these lyrics in particular. I think the phrase ā€œthe girl I _had_ last nightā€ is kind of gross. As to **Under My Thumb** , I can completely see why it was mentioned by a couple of people, yet for some reason I always took it as the singerā€™s wishful thinking. Maybe itā€™s the jaunty music, but I always think itā€™s the narrator kind of bragging to his friends, even though _they and he_ know that the girl is anything but under his thumb. Like Mickā€™s whistling past the graveyard or something. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2022, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/178 "2022-03-03T00:39:19Z")
_Yeah_ - Pete knows ya gotta be a dick to get the chicks. šŸ˜‰ [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/JXnoWb88Jr4/maxresdefault.jpg ""Bedazzled": Drimble Wedge and the Vegetation - 'Bedazzled' (1967)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXnoWb88Jr4) ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/179 "2022-03-03T00:53:21Z")
Nick Lowe - I Trained Her to Love Me [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/xQ0dm1awotE/hqdefault.jpg "TV Live: Nick Lowe - "I Trained Her to Love Me" (Kimmel 2007)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ0dm1awotE) ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2022, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104/180 "2022-03-03T05:12:55Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > As to **Under My Thumb** , I can completely see why it was mentioned by a couple of people, yet for some reason I always took it as the singerā€™s wishful thinking. Maybe itā€™s the jaunty music, but I always think itā€™s the narrator kind of bragging to his friends, even though _they and he_ know that the girl is anything but under his thumb. Like Mickā€™s whistling past the graveyard or something. Iā€™ve always heard it as tongueā€“in-cheek, deliberately outrageous ā€œfeminist baitingā€ as one writer put it. But your take on it also makes sense to me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-reveal-amazing-dickitude-from-the-singer/960104.md?page=10)