# Songs That Wouldn't Fly Today

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 26, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227 "2017-01-26T15:05:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/101 "2017-01-27T17:45:18Z")

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> [@FuriousGeorge](#):
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> Baby, It’s Cold Outside still gets played and redone though it is seemingly about a guy trying to pressure his girl into a little post date action while she protests the entire time.

No, it’s not. We have covered that quite extensively on this board.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/102 "2017-01-27T17:53:53Z")

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BTW, “Girl Talk” was composed by Neal Hefti, who did a lot of work for the Count Basie Orchestra. Bobby Troup just did the lyrics. He was better known at the lyricist for “Lemon Twist” and the immortal “Route 66.”

And DO click **F.U. Shakespeare’s** link to the Troup video. Jaw-dropping male chauvinist piggery! From the women’s hair and hemlines, I figure it was made in '67 or '68. Here’s a copy of the link.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/lDcCxaktex4/hqdefault.jpg "GIRL TALK by Bobby Troup") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDcCxaktex4)

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/103 "2017-01-28T00:31:33Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> BTW, “Girl Talk” was composed by Neal Hefti, who did a lot of work for the Count Basie Orchestra. Bobby Troup just did the lyrics. He was better known at the lyricist for “Lemon Twist” and the immortal “Route 66.”
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> And DO click **F.U. Shakespeare’s** link to the Troup video. Jaw-dropping male chauvinist piggery! From the women’s hair and hemlines, I figure it was made in '67 or '68. Here’s a copy of the link.
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> [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lDcCxaktex4](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lDcCxaktex4)

Yes, thanks, I forgot it was Hefti who wrote the music.

That link is a guilty pleasure of mine - _be warned!_

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/104 "2017-01-28T00:54:01Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> BTW, “Girl Talk” was composed by Neal Hefti, who did a lot of work for the Count Basie Orchestra. Bobby Troup just did the lyrics. He was better known at the lyricist for “Lemon Twist” and the immortal "Route 66.

Hefti also composed the theme for the Batman television series.

“Batman, Batman, Batman, Batman, Batman…”

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/105 "2017-01-28T01:03:22Z")

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Wow - I didn’t know he could write lyrics too!

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**Author:** ![mikeargo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@mikeargo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikeargo)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/106 "2017-01-28T01:25:18Z")

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“Playground In My Mind” had a creepy vibe, especially with the kid’s chorus.

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**Author:** ![C.Montgomery\_Burns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecd19e/32.png) [@C.Montgomery\_Burns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C.Montgomery_Burns)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/107 "2017-01-28T02:50:12Z")

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I could just blow this thing up and throw out, “All Coons Look Alike To Me” by Ernest Hogan. You won’t be hearing that on the radio any time…

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/108 "2017-01-28T03:09:21Z")

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> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#):
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> That link is a guilty pleasure of mine - _be warned!_

Gotta love the ending, when five or six women drag Troup into a changing cubicle the size of a phone booth.

_Okay…NOW what?_

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/109 "2017-01-28T03:23:55Z")

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> [@Aeschines](#):
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> One I’m shocked hasn’t been mentioned yet is “My Sharona” by the Knack:
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> So he’s emphasizing youth here, obviously. No age is mentioned, but it seems more than iffy.
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> But the phrase “get it up” was pretty outrageous by itself. Why did this fly (everywhere, oh goddamn everywhere if you were alive then…) in 1979? I think people were just a bit more naive about sex then: “Oh he can’t mean _that_”. And there wasn’t social media to let one person point out these skeevy lyrics to all his/her friends.
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> Oh, and the Knack’s followup album was entitled, “…But the Little Girls Understand”. WTF?! So this wasn’t a one-off thing with this band.

Around the same time, Bram Tchaikovsky released this tune, which is probably the only song ever to make the Top 40 that’s about an inflatable sex doll.

I heard this a few years ago on the overhead music while walking at the mall. :D

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/110 "2017-01-28T06:23:22Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Around the same time, Bram Tchaikovsky released this tune, which is probably the only song ever to make the Top 40 that’s about an inflatable sex doll.
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> I heard this a few years ago on the overhead music while walking at the mall. :D

LOL! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/111 "2017-01-28T09:33:27Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> i thought the point of the song was the character singing was supposed to be perceived as a loudmouth lout; the song being an indictment of that kind of thinking.

I was looking for this response. You’re not allowed to portray characters in a bad light? Pointless editing messes with the story and characterization. Bad people say and do bad things. Edit that out of books and movies too, and things are gonna get mighty boring.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/112 "2017-01-28T11:36:55Z")

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> [@jaycat](#):
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> Stray Cat Blues (I can see that you’re fifteen years old)

_Thirteen_, in the hit live album _Get Yer Ya-yas Out!_ (released 1970).

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/113 "2017-01-28T15:10:18Z")

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What about Dickie Lee’s [Patches](http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/d/dickey_lee/patches.html): Rich guy falls for poor girl from wrong side of town, they plan to get married, his parents won’t let them, so she commits suicide and he plans to do the same.

I hear a neighbor telling my father -  
He says a girl name of Patches was found  
Floating face down in that dirty old river  
That flows by the coal yards in old Shantytown.

Patches! Oh what can I do?  
I swear I’ll always love you.  
It may not be right,  
But I’ll join you tonight.  
Patches, I’m coming to you.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/114 "2017-01-28T15:24:33Z")

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Or [Fancy](http://www.metrolyrics.com/fancy-lyrics-bobbie-gentry.html), the song about the 18-year-old hooker who is very successful at it.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/115 "2017-01-28T15:34:22Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Gotta love the ending, when five or six women drag Troup into a changing cubicle the size of a phone booth.
> 
> _Okay…NOW what?_

I wanted it to be the women dragging him to the door and throwing him out in the street: “Geddoutta here, ya pervert!”

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**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/116 "2017-01-28T17:30:57Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Or [Fancy](http://www.metrolyrics.com/fancy-lyrics-bobbie-gentry.html), the song about the 18-year-old hooker who is very successful at it.

Nah, if Carrie Underwood decided to remake it, it would go to #1. Bonus points if she can get Reba to sing a powerful backup during the chorus (And naturally, be the mother in the video). The only issue is that Reba’s version still gets so much airplay, I doubt this could ever happen.

And she is not a hooker- She is a Courtesan. My Momma said it, so I believe it.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/117 "2017-01-28T18:37:01Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Or [Fancy](http://www.metrolyrics.com/fancy-lyrics-bobbie-gentry.html), the song about the 18-year-old hooker who is very successful at it.

Whose mother encourages her to get into the career.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/118 "2017-01-28T19:31:45Z")

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Is this entire thread a whoosh, or is this just the whitest board in the world?

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/119 "2017-01-28T20:44:04Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Then there are _these_ reprehensible lyrics:
> 
> Do you remember sweet Michelle  
> She was my high school romance  
> She was fun to talk to and nice to smell  
> So I took her to the homecoming dance  
> Then I tied her to a chair and I shaved off all her hair  
> And I left her in the desert all alone  
> Well sometimes in my dreams  
> I can still hear the screams  
> Oh I wonder if she ever made it home

wasn’t this in a weird al parody song "those were the good old days " ? which made fun all of the 50s/60s nostalgia songs that were out at the time ?

But no one mentions "don’t stand so close to me ? " I thought it was just about someone who was antisocial until I read the lyrics …

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**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-that-wouldnt-fly-today/778227/120 "2017-01-28T21:39:41Z")

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I got a woman - Ray Charles

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Mrd14PxaUco/hqdefault.jpg "Ray Charles - I Got A Woman") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrd14PxaUco)

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