# Songs with incorrect basic premises

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 26, 2015, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371 "2015-12-26T04:35:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/1 "2015-12-26T04:35:17Z")

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For instance, Aretha sings, “Your love is like a seesaw, moving up, down and all around …”

Sorry, Aretha, I don’t know what love is like, maybe a rollercoaster (?), but if it moves all around it ain’t a seesaw. 😛

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/2 "2015-12-26T04:56:49Z")

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Dierks Bentley – “Sweet & Wild”

_Taste of your love  
Sweet and wild as berries  
From a summer vine_

Berries don’t grow on vines. They grow on canes and runners.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/3 "2015-12-26T05:40:22Z")

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There’s a Sammy Hagar song where he makes a reference to “cherries on a vine”.

Oops again.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/4 "2015-12-26T05:47:50Z")

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Is love a rose, a razor, a river, a hunger, a power, something there’s too little of, just a song we sing, or all we need?

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/5 "2015-12-26T06:20:15Z")

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“Don’t Stop Believin’” by Journey.

_Just a city boy  
Born and raised in South Detroit_

So, um, Windsor, Ontario then?

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/6 "2015-12-26T06:23:05Z")

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\*“Fly me to the moon  
And let me play among the stars;  
Let me see what spring is like  
On Jupiter and Mars.”  
\*  
I don’t even know what “play among the stars” is supposed to mean.

And Jupiter’s axial tilt is a mere 3 degrees, so there isn’t any spring to speak of. And if you were on Jupiter or Mars, you’d have more immediately life-threatening concerns than seeing “what spring is like.”

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/7 "2015-12-26T06:33:02Z")

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> “Don’t Stop Believin’” by Journey.
> 
> _Just a city boy  
> Born and raised in South Detroit_
> 
> So, um, Windsor, Ontario then?

No. The Southern part of Detroit.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/8 "2015-12-26T07:09:37Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> Dierks Bentley – “Sweet & Wild”
> 
> _Taste of your love  
> Sweet and wild as berries  
> From a summer vine_
> 
> Berries don’t grow on vines. They grow on canes and runners.

[Grapes.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berry_(botany))😃

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/9 "2015-12-26T07:18:21Z")

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Gerry Rafferty: _“You’re as constant as the Northern Star, the brightest light that shines.”_  
Polaris is only the 50th brighest star in the sky.

U2: _“Early morning, April 4th, shot rings out in the Memphis sky.”_  
Refers to Martin Luther King’s assassination. Except MLK was shot in late afternoon, not early morning.

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**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/10 "2015-12-26T08:47:53Z")

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> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> U2: _“Early morning, April 4th, shot rings out in the Memphis sky.”_  
> Refers to Martin Luther King’s assassination. Except MLK was shot in late afternoon, not early morning.

Aha! But it would have been morning in Ireland! 😃

Charlene: “Oh I’ve been to Nice and the isle of Greece”

Greece is a peninsula.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/11 "2015-12-26T09:22:49Z")

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Vanessa Williams’ “Save the Best for Last” has this:

“Sometimes the snow comes down in June  
Sometimes the sun goes 'round the moon.”

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/12 "2015-12-26T09:42:22Z")

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> “Don’t Stop Believin’” by Journey.
> 
> _Just a city boy  
> Born and raised in South Detroit_
> 
> So, um, Windsor, Ontario then?

“The Night Chicago Died” by Paper Lace.

_Daddy was a cop  
On the east side of Chicago_

So, um, in the lake, then?

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/13 "2015-12-26T11:23:57Z")

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> “Don’t Stop Believin’” by Journey.
> 
> _Just a city boy  
> Born and raised in South Detroit_
> 
> So, um, Windsor, Ontario then?

Downriver.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/14 "2015-12-26T13:01:28Z")

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[QUOTE=It’s Not Rocket Surgery!]

“Don’t Stop Believin’” by Journey.

Just a city boy  
Born and raised in South Detroit

So, um, Windsor, Ontario then?  
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> [@hajario](#):
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> No. The Southern part of Detroit.

There’s a couple of posts defending this line. Really? As a lyric, it just _clanks_.

As for songs with incorrect premises, gotta go with **Steve Miller** - the man doesn’t know his _pompatus_ from a hole in the ground ;).

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**Author:** ![botsgotme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@botsgotme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/botsgotme)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/15 "2015-12-26T13:40:04Z")

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“Drove my Chevy to the levee, but the levee was dry”…um, aren’t levees supposed to be dry? and what is “American Pie”? I have had cherry pie, apple pie, pecan pie…but never American Pie.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/16 "2015-12-26T14:08:31Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Sometimes the snow comes down in June

This planet has an entire southern hemisphere, and in that hemisphere, June is midwinter.

I am, in fact, posting from the southern hemisphere, and it is currently summer here.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/17 "2015-12-26T14:18:07Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> There’s a couple of posts defending this line. Really? As a lyric, it just _clanks_.

Maybe it’s a shitty lyric but the premise is fine. I’m from West L.A. (Also in a song). That’s what we called it. No one ever said “lol you mean the Pacific Ocean.”

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/18 "2015-12-26T14:20:04Z")

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> [@Shakester](#):
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> This planet has an entire southern hemisphere, and in that hemisphere, June is midwinter

No. Winter starts on June 21st there. June is late Fall/early Winter.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/19 "2015-12-26T14:26:35Z")

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“Shake Your Love” by Debby Gibson…how do you “shake” your love? Is it like shaking your bootie?

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-with-incorrect-basic-premises/741371/20 "2015-12-26T14:38:34Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> No. Winter starts on June 21st there. June is late Fall/early Winter.

Well, not according to [all definitions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter#Astronomical_and_other_calendar-based_reckoning)…

> [@](#):
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> In many countries in the Southern Hemisphere, including Australia, New Zealand and South Africa, winter begins on 1 June and ends on 31 August.

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