# Songs you like that are widely reviled by others

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** music\
**Created:** [March 10, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825 "2022-03-10T14:16:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/121 "2022-03-14T15:30:19Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> I’m sure you just mistyped, but the band was Lynyrd Skynyrd.

Yeah, I caught it and changed it as you were typing.

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/122 "2022-03-14T16:05:13Z")

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Outstanding film; they should at least get some kind of technical Oscar for getting all that different recording media to gel so well.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/123 "2022-03-15T17:41:28Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> Voted even worse than ‘Revolution #9’? Really?!? I bet nobody listens to R9 intentionally more than once, except those who are playing the entire White album and are too **lazy** to skip it.

You spelled “stoned” wrong.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/124 "2022-03-15T18:17:07Z")

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> [@TreacherousCretin](#):
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> For me the worst songs in the catalogue are R#9 (by a mile, and technically it isn’t even a “song”); The Inner Light; **Within You, Without You;** Mr. Moonlight.

(Bolding mine).

I like “Within You Without You” quite a bit.

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**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/125 "2022-03-16T03:28:05Z")

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Maybe not so much reviled as held in contempt, but my god, the queen of country music sings the hell out of it.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/f2KP9fYZUWA/maxresdefault.jpg "Tammy Wynette - Stand By Your Man !LIVE!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2KP9fYZUWA)

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/126 "2022-03-16T05:59:09Z")

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Most stuff.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/127 "2022-03-16T20:18:30Z")

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I like “Stand By Your Man,” too.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/128 "2022-03-16T20:22:26Z")

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> [@peccavi](#):
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> Maybe not so much reviled as held in contempt, but my god, the queen of country music sings the hell out of it.
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2KP9fYZUWA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2KP9fYZUWA)

Lyle Lovett does an amazing version.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eHSjiBxufxc/hqdefault.jpg "Lyle Lovett ~ Stand By Your Man (Vinyl)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHSjiBxufxc)

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/129 "2022-03-16T23:09:31Z")

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Horst Wessel Lied. I have no idea what the words mean, or why it’s so despised. I just know that it’s fun to march to!

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**Author:** ![BigDfromLA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@BigDfromLA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigDfromLA)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/130 "2022-03-17T08:37:23Z")

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Mr. Robato by Styx is an excellent song that gets a lot of ridicule. That whole album had an interesting story behind it. Styx were a great band.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/131 "2022-03-17T13:47:30Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Horst Wessel Lied. I have no idea what the words mean, or why it’s so despised…

On the wild assumption that you’re not kidding: [Horst-Wessel-Lied - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst-Wessel-Lied)

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**Author:** ![veryfrank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/87869e/32.png) [@veryfrank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/veryfrank)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/132 "2022-03-17T14:00:16Z")

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I know this is basically a “guilty pleasures” thread, so I’ll admit to digging Whigfield and her two big singles from 1994/95 or so, “Saturday Night” and “Another Day.” She may have had other hits in Europe, but those are the two that got a lot of play on MusiquePlus when I lived in Montreal. But then, I’m always a sucker for a girl with great cheekbones.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8DNQRtmIMxk/maxresdefault.jpg "Whigfield - Saturday Night (Official Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DNQRtmIMxk)

I think about the whole guilty pleasures concept a lot, partly because I have friends who swear by movies like **Hook** and **Mrs. Doubtfire** and any number of other movies that just happened to be always on afternoon TV back when networks showed movies. I’m convinced a lot of people love movies, teevee or songs that are objectively Not Good just because they were key memories of childhood. Personally, I thought “We Built This City” was the bomb when it came out (I was twelve), but I recognize it as cynical crap now. Though, oddly, I really enjoy the medley of that song plus “We’re Not Gonna Take It” in the **Rock of Ages** movie, maybe because Russell Brand really sells the lunacy of the scene.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/VKV44h2o19Y/maxresdefault.jpg "Rock of Ages | We Built This City / We're Not Gonna Take It | Warner Bros. Entertainment") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV44h2o19Y)

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/133 "2022-03-17T14:42:54Z")

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My post was a lame attempt at humor.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/134 "2022-03-17T14:49:34Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Do NOT get me started on that song, I hate it so, so much. A celebration of Alabama’s proud, proud racism and a diss track to those who point it out. Yeup, revile is the word for it.

A celebration of racism? Can you point to the lyric(s) that celebrate racism?

I will say up front that if you’re talking about “they love the Governor, we all did what we could do”, it’s expressing that the singer (and like-minded Alabamians) opposed him and his candidacy and election.

As a southerner, I can say it does get tiring to be tarred with a broad brush like that. It’s understandable, but it’s wrong. Blaming me for George Wallace or Marge Greene is like if I blamed you (a presumed northerner) for sending us this awful Yankee named Donald Trump. I did what I could do to prevent that, and I assume you did likewise, so we shouldn’t quibble over a dumb regional beef.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/135 "2022-03-17T15:01:59Z")

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We cannot continue this discussion in Cafe Society because the blue that wants to pour out of my mouth right now would singe this peaceful thread.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/136 "2022-03-17T15:04:17Z")

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> [@solost](#):
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> Voted even worse than ‘Revolution #9’? Really?!? I bet nobody listens to R9 intentionally more than once, except those who are playing the entire White album and are too lazy to skip it.

My favorite album of all time is the “White Album.” There’s a weird story behind how I became acquainted with it. A friend of my brother’s had bought the double cassettes and hated the album. I think he was expecting things like the hits he’d heard over the years and this album wasn’t like that. So he gave them to my bro. We listened and fell in love. But we only played Revolution #9 once…it made our ears cry.

The old pre-recorded cassettes didn’t sound great, and we loved the album enough to go buy the vinyl. Then we put music onto a cassette so we could listen to them in the car (and to preserve the source material). If you leave out Revolution #9, the album fits on your Maxell XLII 90 minute cassette. One for the car, one for the home cassette deck…that’s what we did.

It’s also easily skipped now that I have the CD 😀

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> I will say up front that if you’re talking about “they love the Governor, we all did what we could do”, it’s expressing that the singer (and like-minded Alabamians) opposed him and his candidacy and election.

Sure Van Zant has said that, but I’m not convinced. Co-writer Ed King has said it’s totally a pro-Wallace song.

If the verse says that they and like minded Alabamans oppose Wallace, then what does this mean:

Sweet home Alabama (oh, sweet home)  
Where the skies are so blue  
And the governor’s true

What does “true” mean in this context?

And shortly after

Montgomery’s got the answer

Is the “answer” the bus boycott, or the White Citizens Council? Peaceful protest or firebombing black churches?

I don’t think LS is specifically trying to have it both ways, but the nature of rock lyrics makes it ambiguous which side they are on. Easy to say after the fact “oh we’re the good guys”, but yet they used the rebel flag in their band up until 2012!

PS Watergate _should_ bother them. Wonder why it didn’t? maybe they think Nixon did the right thing.

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I did some reading about the song here:

> **[Sweet Home Alabama by Lynyrd Skynyrd - Songfacts](https://www.songfacts.com/facts/lynyrd-skynyrd/sweet-home-alabama)**
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> Sweet Home Alabama by Lynyrd Skynyrd song meaning, lyric interpretation, video and chart position

This is maybe the most damning factoid they gave:

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> The _National Review_ placed this song at #4 on their list of the 50 Greatest Conservative Rock Songs of All Time. They wrote: "A tribute to the region of America that liberals love to loathe, taking a shot at Neil Young’s Canadian arrogance along the way: “A Southern man don’t need him around anyhow.”

So at least some people think it’s pro-racist asshole.

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> 50 Greatest Conservative Rock Songs of All Time

I had no idea that this was a thing.

I also didn’t know that this list would include such right-wing classics as _Sympathy for the Devil_, _Wouldn’t It Be Nice_, and _Gloria_.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-like-that-are-widely-reviled-by-others/960825/140 "2022-03-17T19:33:18Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> I had no idea that this was a thing.

What are some of their favorite titles?

The South’s Gonna Do it Again  
Another Brick in the Wall  
Strange Fruit  
Killing An Arab  
Brown Sugar  
God Bless the USA

(If any of those are in the actual list, I don’t know what to say)

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