# Songs you liked, till you really listened to them

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 14, 2005, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294 "2005-04-14T15:28:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2005, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294/41 "2005-04-15T14:24:44Z")

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> [@rfgdxm](#):
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> They seem in retrospect to me quite inspired.

Lots of things can be inspired, but the lyrics to this particular song made reference to many things that ceased to be relevant very soon after the song came out.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294/42 "2005-04-15T16:19:50Z")

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Undercover Angel, by Alan O’Day. “Say _what_?” indeed.

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**Author:** ![Stillwell\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@Stillwell\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stillwell_Angel)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2005, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294/43 "2005-04-15T17:59:16Z")

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> [@Dung Beetle](#):
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> “Say _what_?”

“I said ooo ooo ooo weee, I said allllllriiiight, I said LOVE ME LOVE ME LOVE ME!!!”

:smack: sorry. Couldn’t resist finishing that line for you…

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**Author:** ![ErinPuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dbc845/32.png) [@ErinPuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ErinPuff)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2005, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294/44 "2005-04-15T18:09:41Z")

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> [@LifeOnWry](#):
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> A slightly weird one: “Over The Sea To Skye,” an old folk tune. Pretty, pretty lullaby-ish melody to Bonnie Prince Charlie, and then you get to this part:
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> \*Many’s the lad fought on that day,  
> while the claymore could wield;  
> When the night came, silently lay,  
> dead on Culloden’s field.
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> Burned are our homes, exile and death  
> scattered the loyal men  
> yet ere the sword cool in the sheath  
> Charlie will rise again.\*

I’m doing an arrangement of this for concert band, and I have a kickass alternate harmony for those bits. 😃

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294/45 "2005-04-15T18:44:08Z")

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> [@Stillwell Angel](#):
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> “I said ooo ooo ooo weee, I said allllllriiiight, I said LOVE ME LOVE ME LOVE ME!!!”
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> :smack: sorry. Couldn’t resist finishing that line for you…

Awww…to tell you the truth, I still \*do \* like it. It makes me laugh.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294/46 "2005-04-16T02:36:42Z")

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“Undercover Angel” cracks me up too.

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**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294/47 "2005-04-16T05:11:26Z")

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> [@rfgdxm](#):
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> For me, you need to, as I really like and agree with these lyrics. I’m guessing our politics are much different.

Mr. Writer must be a fan of Reagan. Young made it known the song was a stab at the arcane policies that he foisted upon the American people. I agree with you and the lyrics.

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**Author:** ![jimpatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimpatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimpatro)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294/48 "2005-04-16T07:36:01Z")

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Another vote for **Wonderful**. My kids were devastated by the divorce and this just reminds me of it, can’t listen to it.

The Toadies’ **Possum Kingdom**. What a great driving beat, but then I learned it’s based on the murder of a young girl and now it’s too dark.

Filter’s **Hey Man Nice Shot**. Based on the suicide of R. Budd Dwyer. The video of his suicide is haunting enough and this song resurrects the image. Seems a little disrespectful too. Imagine his family’s reaction to it.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294/49 "2005-04-16T11:47:59Z")

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> [@racer72](#):
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> Mr. Writer must be a fan of Reagan. Young made it known the song was a stab at the arcane policies that he foisted upon the American people. I agree with you and the lyrics.

First of all, whether or not I am a fan of Reagan, the point is that the lyrics were quickly made irrelevant by history…as proven by the fact that Young REWROTE some of them to suit the next president and the changing world situation.  
Second, bitterness seems to suit liberals. It seems to be their defining characteristic.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294/50 "2005-04-16T18:26:11Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> Second, bitterness seems to suit liberals. It seems to be their defining characteristic.

I thought they were naifs. :rolleyes: Anyway I think you’re right that the lyrics didn’t age well.

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**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2005, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294/51 "2005-04-16T19:05:23Z")

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For lyrics not aging well, how about Phil Ochs?

[“you’re supporting Chang Kai-Shek  
while I’m supporting Mao”](http://ochs-phil-lyrics.wonderlyrics.com/I'm-Going-To-Say-It-Now.html)

Now _that’s_ shudder worthy.

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**Author:** ![Balduran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cc9497/32.png) [@Balduran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balduran)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294/52 "2005-04-17T00:13:51Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> “Rockin’ in the Free World” by Neil Young. I went about 3 years before actually listening to the lyrics. I don’t own any Young albums and thought this was the one rocker I could like.

When Nelson Mandela was finally freed from prison there was a concert for him, which he attended, in Wembley stadium in London. All sorts of stars played songs to celebrate his freedom. Neil Young played **Rockin’ in the free world** I remember thinking at that time “some concert promoter didn’t listen to the lyrics close enough”.

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**Author:** ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294/53 "2005-04-17T03:07:13Z")

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The direction this thread is going gives me the distinct feeling that some people could turn “Ginger vs. Mary Ann” into a political flamewar.

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**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2005, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-liked-till-you-really-listened-to-them/299294/54 "2005-04-17T03:30:45Z")

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I liked **Tourniquet** by Evanescence until I found out it was about a suicide.

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