# Songs you used to like before you started listening to the lyrics **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 17, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-used-to-like-before-you-started-listening-to-the-lyrics/445787 "2008-04-17T21:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-used-to-like-before-you-started-listening-to-the-lyrics/445787/121 "2008-06-04T13:29:43Z")
[QUOTE=dotchan] My moment is not as serious as the rest of you guys. I had thought that “No Air” was one of those typical bad breakup/love of my life is dead songs… **Until I found out that the woman in the song is just upset because her boyfriend is moving out of the apartment they shared because he wants to pursue his dream as a singer.** Now, to be fair, he may have moved like cross country or something and she doesn’t think she can handle a long-distance relationship, but I felt so cheated after I found out about it. I also WTF-ed at the techno cover of “What Hurts the Most”. Some songs just don’t work in techno, and that song is one of them. [/QUOTE] Whaaaaa? Did you read this somewhere, because it’s certainly not stated in the lyrics. I think you were correct with your first interpretation. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-used-to-like-before-you-started-listening-to-the-lyrics/445787/122 "2008-06-04T14:46:39Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] It’s a Cadillac Escalade, not “Esplanade.” [/QUOTE] Ah, I see. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-used-to-like-before-you-started-listening-to-the-lyrics/445787/123 "2008-06-04T15:20:59Z")
[QUOTE=Scumpup] Perhaps our values differ too much to reach an accord on this. From my POV, it’s better to give hooligans a sound flogging for lesser transgressions and women not to be raped at all. [/QUOTE] Our values are not different, I agree with you 100%. I was speculating from the songs point of view. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-used-to-like-before-you-started-listening-to-the-lyrics/445787/124 "2008-06-04T15:29:11Z")
[QUOTE=Don’t fight the hypothetical] Our values are not different, I agree with you 100%. I was speculating from the songs point of view. [/QUOTE] Well, I think the point of the song was that he had misinterpreted what his dead father wanted from him. Dear ol’ dirt nappin’ daddy just didn’t want his son to be a hooligan himself. ---
**Author:** ![iturntoyou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e36b37/32.png) [@iturntoyou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iturntoyou)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-used-to-like-before-you-started-listening-to-the-lyrics/445787/125 "2008-06-04T15:57:53Z")
I have to disagree with Love The One You’re With, look at the lyrics, “‘cause your baby is so far away” I guess you could make a case for her being unobtainable, but the next group of lyrics “don’t sit cryin’ over good times you’ve had. There’s a girl right next to you” This implies the girl WAS obtainable and she dumped the guy. So what’s the result, just look to the next available person. I can understand it from a historical hippie kind of 60s thing, (I wasn’t alive then but from what I’ve read and my folks told me) Anyway that’s off topic, and I realize that songwriters often try to use words in a different way or change the terms to get a rhyme but a good song needs to stand alone on it’s own content. That doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy a song, there are plenty of bad, but catchy tunes, such as Sheena Easton’s Sugar Walls which is blatant but really after you listen to it comes across as silly. I mean you could make a case for Sugar Walls meaning her heart and the song would still fit. ---
**Author:** ![dotchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dotchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dotchan)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-used-to-like-before-you-started-listening-to-the-lyrics/445787/126 "2008-06-04T17:51:05Z")
Re: “No Air” [QUOTE=WOOKINPANUB] Whaaaaa? Did you read this somewhere, because it’s certainly not stated in the lyrics. I think you were correct with your first interpretation. [/QUOTE] Okay, now I’m going to ask my roommate if she was smoking something, because I just watched the [official music video](http://youtube.com/watch?v=Icv6DgZ-9O4) and all I can see is either bad breakup or she can’t handle a long-distance relationship. ---
**Author:** ![Vihaga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Vihaga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vihaga)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-used-to-like-before-you-started-listening-to-the-lyrics/445787/127 "2008-06-04T17:52:43Z")
[QUOTE=Scumpup] Well, I think the point of the song was that he had misinterpreted what his dead father wanted from him. Dear ol’ dirt nappin’ daddy just didn’t want his son to be a hooligan himself. [/QUOTE] I agree with this. Also, it would take one mother of a crystal ball to know that your girl’s going to be raped because it’s known that you don’t fight; I don’t think that happens to most pacificists’ girlfriends. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-used-to-like-before-you-started-listening-to-the-lyrics/445787/128 "2008-06-06T14:12:38Z")
[QUOTE=DKW] The instant I saw this thread, I _immediately_ thought of Moonlight Shadow. (Mike Oldfield, Missing Heart, anyone, doesn’t matter.) An absolutely beautiful, tuneful, melodic, harmonious folk song…about **A MURDER**. :eek: [/QUOTE] If you like the tune but not the words, then listen to “Man in the Rain” from _Tubular Bells III_ instead. Oldfield basically plagiarised his own tune for that one. 😃 It’s got a better solo, too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songs-you-used-to-like-before-you-started-listening-to-the-lyrics/445787.md?page=6)