# SongShitting, as in, "Thats a real good song, except for this part" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 19, 2015, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359 "2015-03-19T05:25:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Macca26](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/13edae/32.png) [@Macca26](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Macca26)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/41 "2015-03-19T15:42:40Z")
It’s not quite the same thing as what’s being described, but the fake radio stuffed into the entire Songs for the Deaf album by Queens of the Stone Age was cute for exactly one play through. Now I want to scream every time I just want to listen to it but have to suffer through that awful fake radio shit to get to it. I should just use an audio editor to cut it all out and never listen to it on original CD again. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/42 "2015-03-19T15:43:12Z")
I love love love the song “Changes” by Yes, but for a long time I thought I hated it because I couldn’t get past the intro…what is that, a xylophone? I cope with it now, but I still always think of the rest of the song as “the good part”. ---
**Author:** ![desertmonk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@desertmonk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/desertmonk)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/43 "2015-03-19T15:46:59Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > I assume you’re referring to a certain Journey song here. At least that’s what I thought of when I saw \*\*Leaffan’s \*\*post. “Hey Jude” The Beatles… ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/44 "2015-03-19T15:49:53Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > “Sweet Home Alabama” is a joke from start to finish. It’s a parody of anthems, told from the point of view of a redneck. Calling it “morally indefensible” is like getting outraged that Jonathan Swift advocated eating babies. If this is so, it’s news to me. I’ll try and read more about it. ---
**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/45 "2015-03-19T15:50:56Z")
U2’s “Unforgettable Fire,” which just may be my favorite song ever, is my favorite _despite_ that horrible cheesy synthasized drum part in the middle. The rest of the song is an ageless, timeless, classic…and then there’s that part. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/46 "2015-03-19T15:54:17Z")
In “Blame Game” on Kanye West’s “My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy”, the long drawn out end part involving the Chris Rock dialogue was funny the first time, but its just ridiculously long and boring every time after that. The “that’s a really good song, except for that part” of the OP turns into “that’s a really good album, except for that part”. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/47 "2015-03-19T15:55:15Z")
“Don’t You Worry 'Bout a Thing” is my favorite Stevie Wonder song, even despite the weird dialogue, which doesn’t even make sense with the song (it would work better with “He’s Misstra Know-it-All”). ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/48 "2015-03-19T15:55:30Z")
> [@desertmonk](#): > > “Hey Jude” The Beatles… I meant that I thought **Amateur Barbarian** was responding to **Leaffan’s** post about _Hey Jude_ with his own mention of Journey’s “Lovin’, Touchin” Squeezin" ". . . now it’s your turn girl to cryyyyyyyyyyyy ``` Nah na na Nah na na Nah Nah na Nah Nah " ad infinitum ``` ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/49 "2015-03-19T16:27:59Z")
Tom Petty has a fine song in _American Girl_. But why oh why did he feel the need to include a “disco interlude” in the middle. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/50 "2015-03-19T16:55:55Z")
> [@OneCentStamp](#): > > I only left it alone because the OP more or less pre-empted it. But if we want to talk about the coda to “Layla”: > > God, I hate that thing. It goes nowhere for like three full minutes. It sounds like someone recorded the first take of them fucking around, without even knowing the chord progression yet, and printed it to tape. It’s hard to believe that’s a prime Duane Allman and a near-prime Eric Clapton. I’ve never been so glad to hear two guitarists buried behind a piano in my life. The second half of _Layla_ sounds like cats fucking to me. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/51 "2015-03-19T16:58:16Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > I have no objection to organ solos; I just want _good_ ones. How about the one smack in the middle of _Close To The Edge_ by **Yes**? :dubious: I always figured they could have done without that. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/52 "2015-03-19T17:49:07Z")
I always thought that the middle third of Gordon Lightfoot’s **Canadian Railway Trilogy** bit the big one, even as I loved the first and final thirds. ---
**Author:** ![Cumbrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Cumbrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumbrian)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/53 "2015-03-19T18:19:02Z")
It’s hardly a classic but the poster child of this for me (a child of the 80s being in my late teens when it came out) is Singing In My Sleep by Semisonic which has this terrible 3-3-4 note organ/synthy bit running through it, that does not fit the song at all. Without it, it would have been an agreeable rock song with a hooky chorus. Instead, I spend the entire song going “Why? Why? Why?” every time that 10 note motif plays. Thankfully, it was a minor hit at best and the number of times I hear it in the wild is pretty limited. ---
**Author:** ![Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cornelius_Tuggerson)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/54 "2015-03-19T18:27:09Z")
> [@Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](#): > > **Blondie** - _Rapture_ > > The ethereal melody in the first half of the song may be the best one they ever wrote. And then **Debbie** starts rapping… :(. I wholeheartedly concur. Most of the time they would try out stuff that didn’t seem like it would fit, I loved it. In this instance it just didn’t click for me. ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/55 "2015-03-19T18:33:13Z")
Rage Against the Machine “Killing in the Name Of” has an unlistenable screechy guitar solo that kills the song. It edits out nicely in Audacity though. My opinion on this will probably go over about as well as pushing Gandhi down a stairwell, but I’ve never liked Joni Mitchell’s pitching her voice and laughing at the outro of “Big Yellow Taxi”. That’s fine to stick on a B-side as an alternate version for fans who think it’s charming and cute, but IMO she ruined a brilliant song and performance. Every boy-band or crooner R&B song where they have a “talking” bridge of “ooh baby, here’s how I’m going to love you” instructions. Squicky dive lounge pillow talk? In my peanut butter? ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/56 "2015-03-19T18:45:08Z")
Ben Folds has this beautiful, deep song called “[Cologne](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxx5WvePCtY)” with rich instrumentation and even a choir. It’s a really great breakup song. Except in the middle of his beautiful lyrics are these fucking awful lyrics. An absolute SongShit: “Says here an astronaut put on a pair of diapers and drove eighteen hours to kill her boyfriend.” Goddammit, it really kills the mood! ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/57 "2015-03-19T18:46:20Z")
> [@GargoyleWB](#): > > Rage Against the Machine “Killing in the Name Of” has an unlistenable screechy guitar solo that kills the song. It edits out nicely in Audacity though. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/58 "2015-03-19T18:50:37Z")
The Beck song [Novacane](https://youtu.be/S2whdGwK84Y) is pretty enjoyable (for me) until about the 3:20 mark, when suddenly a bunch of screechy distortion blurts out, deafening anyone unlucky enough to be listening with headphones on. I’ve also noticed in about a hundred new rap songs, the same bunch of dudes show up and start shouting “Hey! Hey!” in the background. ETA: I just went looking for an example of the dudes shouting “Hey! Hey!” and came across [this](https://youtu.be/ES03SQyU_2o) amusing video - I guess I’m not alone ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/59 "2015-03-19T19:45:00Z")
All this talk of editing songs (I use Sound Studio myself) reminds me of one song I wish it were possible to edit: [Big Audio Dynamite’s E=MC2](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E%3DMC2_%28song%29). The song uses audio clips from a movie as emphasis for the lyrics. That by itself isn’t bad, but they sound like they were copied from the film by using a hand held cassette recorder that was located somewhere in the room where the film was playing on a crappy 1960s era portable TV. Combine that with the accents of the characters in the movie and all you get is muddled mush for the most part. I wish it was possible to remove them, because I love the sound of the song. But the samples always take me out of the “mood”. ---
**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/60 "2015-03-19T19:51:37Z")
> [@GargoyleWB](#): > > My opinion on this will probably go over about as well as pushing Gandhi down a stairwell, but I’ve never liked Joni Mitchell’s pitching her voice and laughing at the outro of “Big Yellow Taxi”. That’s fine to stick on a B-side as an alternate version for fans who think it’s charming and cute, but IMO she ruined a brilliant song and performance. I feel the same way about the last couple of seconds of Led Zeppelin’s “In My Time of Dying.” Man, after that epic 11-minute song, I want it to end with satisfying **finality** , not peter out with a goofy moment. “No no no!” all the Led Zep fans howl in unison, “don’t you see, that’s the **perfect** ending it’s funny it subverts your expectations and [incoherent droning]” I don’t care. I don’t like that ending. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359.md?page=4)