# SongShitting, as in, "Thats a real good song, except for this part" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 19, 2015, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359 "2015-03-19T05:25:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/61 "2015-03-19T20:01:31Z")
_[Hunting Girl](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3n8cCZ-3Eo)_ has an excellent, elaborate melody that we were greatly pleased to hear live at the Gorge, but when you drop in the singing part, the song just seems to deflate. There is a short instrumental bridge that kind of picks it up a tad, but then there is more singing to dilute the music. The other pieces from _Songs from the Wood_, one of the most solid full albums of ever, do not suffer in the least from the singing parts, but this one should have just been fully instrumental. ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/62 "2015-03-19T20:05:04Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > :eek: Hehe. Let me propose a solution to “Killing in the Name Of”. Splice in the solo from Billy Idol “White Wedding”. Now it’s perfect 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/63 "2015-03-19T20:22:21Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > Skynyd was to the left politically (see “Saturday Night Special”). > > “Sweet Home Alabama” is a joke from start to finish. It’s a parody of anthems, told from the point of view of a redneck. Calling it “morally indefensible” is like getting outraged that Jonathan Swift advocated eating babies. > > Re: “Light My Fire.” > > I have no objection to organ solos; I just want _good_ ones. Or it could just be reinforcement of their apparent racism, since the origins of “Saturday Night Special” and that particular gun control movement were racist. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/64 "2015-03-19T20:40:56Z")
From the rap side, I was always a huge fan of Public Enemy’s “Fear of a Black Planet” from the album of the same name, perhaps more for the message than the musicality. But the last verse of the song concludes with this gem: _All I want is peace and love on this planet. Ain’t how that God planned it?_ The grammatical construction of the final sentence is perpetually nails-on-chalkboard for me. To paraphrase a quote from my favorite “Iron Chef” episode: Chuck D, how _could_ you?! ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/65 "2015-03-19T20:59:44Z")
> [@GargoyleWB](#): > > Hehe. Let me propose a solution to “Killing in the Name Of”. Splice in the solo from Billy Idol “White Wedding”. Now it’s perfect 🙂 Stop it! 🙂 (Seriously, though, that Morello solo is one of my favorite guitar solos of the last 20 years, and I don’t otherwise listen to Rage, but for him.) ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/66 "2015-03-19T21:52:06Z")
That weird lounge-singer-ey interlude in the middle of Gypsy’s “Dead And Gone” really ruins an otherwise awesome song. ---
**Author:** ![MrSquishy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MrSquishy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrSquishy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/67 "2015-03-19T21:52:11Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > _[Hunting Girl](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3n8cCZ-3Eo)_ has an excellent, elaborate melody that we were greatly pleased to hear live at the Gorge, but when you drop in the singing part, the song just seems to deflate. There is a short instrumental bridge that kind of picks it up a tad, but then there is more singing to dilute the music. The other pieces from _Songs from the Wood_, one of the most solid full albums of ever, do not suffer in the least from the singing parts, but this one should have just been fully instrumental. I’m not sure how you could bring up Jethro Tull in this thread and not mention _The Story of the Hare Who Lost His Spectacles_ from an otherwise great album/song, _A Passion Play_. What were they thinking? ---
**Author:** ![seal\_cleaner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@seal\_cleaner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seal_cleaner)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/68 "2015-03-19T22:17:41Z")
Stevie Wonder’s lyrics. “I Wish” is one of my favorite songs, but the “wasn’t if fun being a kid” theme really doesn’t match the tune or arrangement. ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/69 "2015-03-19T22:33:02Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Stop it! 🙂 > > (Seriously, though, that Morello solo is one of my favorite guitar solos of the last 20 years, and I don’t otherwise listen to Rage, but for him.) I hear ya, I love Morello also. On paper it’s technically a good solo, it’s really the tone that’s terrible, his line in/out jacks are apparently plugged into the ass/mouth of a sick cat 😃 ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/70 "2015-03-19T22:58:20Z")
_Sing_ on Annie Lennox’s _Songs of Mass Destruction_. The album has a great groove, but it’s utterly crushed by being preceded by a women saying “This is a call for the National Implementation Of Mother to Child Transmission Prevention Program In all the maternity hospitals in South Africa” OK, fine. It’s an important thing, preventing AIDS transmission to babies. The thing is, I don’t need to hear it\*\* every single fucking time I listen to the album!\*\* My personal copy has that bit edited out. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/71 "2015-03-19T23:01:38Z")
I absolutely adore **Gang of Four’s Love like Anthrax**. But man, the first minute of solid-state-amp feedback gets really, really annoying. But when the drums kick in…well, yay. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/72 "2015-03-19T23:42:24Z")
I really like _Tonight_ by The Smashing Pumpkins except for the vocal track. Also, _Crazy In Love_ would be better without Jay-Z’s rapping. Making it worse, I know it’s “hove” but it sounds like “young ho”. ---
**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/73 "2015-03-20T00:57:29Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > For me, the quintessential example of this phenomenon is **“Something in the Air”** by Thunderclap Newman, an otherwise wonderful song ruined by someone whose idea of a solo is to bang tunelessly on a piano for a full minute. I like Tom Petty’s [cover](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8bnSVLGZRs) of this song better. He changes the instrumentation from the original solo and tightens it up considerably. My contributions: “Roam” by the B52’s: the beginning sounds like some horrible Enya squealing, but then the rest of the song kicks ass. “Safe and Sound” by Capital Cities: there’s a synthesizer solo immediately following the bridge. The solo doesn’t really fit the rest of the song and should be eliminated. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/74 "2015-03-20T02:26:09Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > In “Blame Game” on Kanye West’s “My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy”, the long drawn out end part involving the Chris Rock dialogue was funny the first time, but its just ridiculously long and boring every time after that. The “that’s a really good song, except for that part” of the OP turns into “that’s a really good album, except for that part”. I was going to nominate pretty much everything that happened in “Runaway” from about 5:45-onward. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/75 "2015-03-20T04:11:14Z")
> [@GargoyleWB](#): > > My opinion on this will probably go over about as well as pushing Gandhi down a stairwell, but I’ve never liked Joni Mitchell’s pitching her voice and laughing at the outro of “Big Yellow Taxi”. I won’t tell anybody you pushed him if you don’t tell anybody I kicked him on the way down! 😃 Yeah, \*Big Yellow Taxi \*needs to be a few seconds shorter. This thread makes me need to learn how to use these editing programs. Just as soon as I get my computer running again! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/76 "2015-03-20T04:32:14Z")
Audacity is an incredibly nice piece of software, fairly easy to learn and use, and IME, freeware. ---
**Author:** ![TCMF-2L](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tcmf-2l/32/16553_2.png) [@TCMF-2L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TCMF-2L)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/77 "2015-03-20T14:46:21Z")
_ **Killing Joke** _ and _ **Love Like Blood** _ - a prime slice of post punk, power pop / rock pseudo epic posturing OUGHT to be one of my all time favourite tracks but there is something flat about the production. It comes so close to being stirring but never hits the highs. So frustrating. Meanwhile _ **Our Lips Are Sealed** _ by _ **Fun Boy Three** _ has a soaring beginning. Then immediately segues into a bland pop song. Don’t like the Go-Gos version. _ **Genesis** _ and _ **Turn It On** _. Love the start of the song but before the 3m 50s are up I’ve lost interest. TCMF-2L ---
**Author:** ![UncleMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e0b2c6/32.png) [@UncleMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleMoose)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/78 "2015-03-20T14:50:22Z")
Emerson Lake and Palmer fan (except, oddly enough, for Lucky Man). Beyond jarring, though, is this bit in the middle of “Still… You Turn Me On” Every day a little sadder A little madder Someone get me a ladder What??? And then they named one of their tours after that line. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/79 "2015-03-20T14:56:59Z")
> [@TCMF-2L](#): > > _ **Killing Joke** _ and _ **Love Like Blood** _ - a prime slice of post punk, power pop / rock pseudo epic posturing OUGHT to be one of my all time favourite tracks but there is something flat about the production. It comes so close to being stirring but never hits the highs. So frustrating. I completely agree on this one. I mean, I love that song, but I don’t love it as much as I should have, somehow. And I think it’s down to the sound, which is cold and flat even by 80s standards. ---
**Author:** ![Indyellen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/indyellen/32/4176_2.png) [@Indyellen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indyellen)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/80 "2015-03-20T16:39:43Z")
I love _Tainted Love_, the first half. I keep hoping it’ll stop there, but then it rolls into _Where Did Our Love Go_, and I hate it. The two just don’t go together, to me. And I agree with the piano ending on _Layla_. Just make it go away. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359.md?page=5)