# SongShitting, as in, "Thats a real good song, except for this part"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 19, 2015, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359 "2015-03-19T05:25:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/81 "2015-03-20T18:00:28Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> I was going to nominate pretty much everything that happened in “Runaway” from about 5:45-onward.

This is where YMMV comes into play - I think the end of Runaway is some of the best stuff on the album.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/82 "2015-03-20T18:28:15Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> In Sympathy for the Devil, once I pointed out to my wife the background “woot woo!” now that’s all she can hear. She sings that part along with the song. I’ve created a monster!

The amazing part of this song, in my opinion, is imagining Keith Richards in the studio, singing “woo woo” into a microphone over and over.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/83 "2015-03-20T19:48:00Z")

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Keef’s lead is haiku-perfect.

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**Author:** ![BurnMeUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@BurnMeUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BurnMeUp)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/84 "2015-03-20T20:16:21Z")

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> [@Indyellen](#):
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> I love _Tainted Love_, the first half. I keep hoping it’ll stop there, but then it rolls into _Where Did Our Love Go_, and I hate it. The two just don’t go together, to me.
> 
> And I agree with the piano ending on _Layla_. Just make it go away.

I think that’s a specific remix though. I remember my original copy of Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret just had Tainted Love as a single track.

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**Author:** ![BurnMeUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@BurnMeUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BurnMeUp)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/85 "2015-03-20T20:17:59Z")

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I really like the Bad Religion song The Defense - EXCEPT for the part where the backing vocal throws in “Yeah Right” as a response to one of the lines. That makes me want to kick them in the taco.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/86 "2015-03-20T20:18:30Z")

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> [@Indyellen](#):
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> I love _Tainted Love_, the first half. I keep hoping it’ll stop there, but then it rolls into _Where Did Our Love Go_, and I hate it. The two just don’t go together, to me.

Oh, good one.

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**Author:** ![funky\_little\_lee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@funky\_little\_lee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/funky_little_lee)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/87 "2015-03-21T01:39:19Z")

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Maybe not super-horrible, but a disappointment, is when the Doobies’ _Jesus Is Just Alright With Me_ segues from the strong, slick opener into a boring, sluggish blues song. I’d edit it out but then the song would only be about 1 minute long.

I did edit the synth solo out of Zep’s _All My Love_. It’s so freaking out of place in a song with all that medieval imagery. It would’ve been fine if they’d have had actual string instruments–and seeing how they had their own jet, they certainly could’ve afforded it.

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/88 "2015-03-21T01:46:12Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!
> 
> Repeat a thousand times.

My husband does a parody that begins: “Hey Jude, I hate this song, 'cuz it’s so boring, and so monotonous…”

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**Author:** ![RobotDevilDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@RobotDevilDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobotDevilDog)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/89 "2015-03-21T07:08:32Z")

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I always thought the perfect example of this was Meat Loaf’s “Paradise By the Dashboard Light”. Most of the song is a classic rocker, but then the fun comes to a screeching halt for over a minute so that we can hear the eternally annoying (RIP) Phil Rizzuto doing a play-by-play of sexual baseball metaphors.

I have made myself a version with this part edited out, and it REALLY helps.

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/90 "2015-03-21T08:07:11Z")

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> [@Ponch8](#):
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> I like Tom Petty’s [cover](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8bnSVLGZRs) of this song better. He changes the instrumentation from the original solo and tightens it up considerably.

Yeah, of the two versions I prefer that one. But even the solo in Petty’s cover is a bit lacklustre. I’ve yet to hear a version of “Something in the Air” whose solo I really enjoy.

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/91 "2015-03-21T16:50:22Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> This may be obscure to most of you. I really like [Midnight Radio](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMWcPAEpuq4) from _Hedwig and The Angry Inch_. Except it eventually gets into repeating “Lift up your head.” over and over and over …
> 
> No song needs a line repeated that much. No song needs a line repeated that much. No song needs a line repeated that much. No song needs a line repeated that much. No song needs a line repeated that much. No song needs a line repeated that much. No song needs a line repeated that much.

Out of curiosity, have you seen Hedwig live? That repetition sticks out like a sore thumb on the album or in the movie, but when I saw it on Broadway it really clicked. Hedwig is really singing to the crowd very directly at that point, and the repetition gave her(?) time to interact a bit.

Also, it bears mentioning that “Midnight Radio” tracks very closely with Bowie’s “Rock and Roll Suicide,” which outros with a repeated line of “Gimme your hands.”

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/92 "2015-03-21T17:18:48Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> I won’t tell anybody you pushed him if you don’t tell anybody I kicked him on the way down! 😃
> 
> Yeah, \*Big Yellow Taxi \*needs to be a few seconds shorter.
> 
> This thread makes me need to learn how to use these editing programs. Just as soon as I get my computer running again!

And the [Counting Crows](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvtJPs8IDgU) cover needs to have Vanessa Carlton’s “ooh…bop bop bop” edited out.

Actually, it was added as a bonus track to their CD _Hard Candy_, and the Vanessa Carlton part was absent. It didn’t appear until their compilation album _Films About Ghosts_. Plus, if the track is listed on the song list for _Hard Candy_, it’s the Carlton version. If it’s not listed on the outside of the CD case, her vocals are absent.

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**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/93 "2015-03-21T17:33:15Z")

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> [@Morbo](#):
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> The Beck song [Novacane](https://youtu.be/S2whdGwK84Y) is pretty enjoyable (for me) until about the 3:20 mark, when suddenly a bunch of screechy distortion blurts out, deafening anyone unlucky enough to be listening with headphones on.

Oh yes. Completely argee with you on this one.

Ditto for every other artist out there who thinks it’s funny to put a bunch of screechy distorted nonsense as a hidden “song” after a long pause following last track on an album. Beck is at fault here yet again, as he pulled this nonsense on _Mellow Gold_ and _Stereopathetic Soulmanure_, though his contemporaries were also particularly fond of it (Nirvana on _Nevermind_ and the European release of _In Utero_).

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/94 "2015-03-21T19:37:27Z")

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[Audacity](http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download). Learn to use it. Stop complaining.

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/95 "2015-03-21T20:31:12Z")

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Oh, I do edit out the noise tracks when I rip the CDs. I just wish I didn’t have to.

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/96 "2015-03-21T22:08:58Z")

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In lieu of the lead singer’s passing, I could never understand Toto’s Roseanna.

I have a music degree, so I appreciate the mix of styles this song has, but why it was a hit I’ll never understand. Simply because: You Can’t Dance To This Song. The break in between the bridge and the Chorus of “Meet you all the way…” is basically when you pause the dance and get a drink. It’s a big rubato drum break with the horn section, so just pause and wait.

Rest of the song has three different tempos and three different rhythms, so I hope you can fox trot, waltz, rhumba and conga. Maybe a little break dance spin or a balance on the head you can do for that awful drum break.

It’s a well written song, requires talented musicians, singers, horn section, but it feels like it was four ideas for four songs thrown together.

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/97 "2015-03-21T22:28:43Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> It’s a big rubato drum break with the horn section, so just pause and wait.

I understand your criticism, but the break isn’t all that rubato. You can just dance right through it 1-2-3-4, and meet up with the 3 & 4 at “Meet you.”

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/98 "2015-03-22T06:04:08Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!  
> Nah, nah nah, na na na na! Hey Jude!
> 
> Repeat a thousand times.

The repetition is bad, I’ll admit, but, musically, that’s the best part of the song. Up until that point, it’s just really basic. And then they go all Mixolydian and rock up the joint.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/99 "2015-03-22T18:06:25Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Ok, I feel like I need to make up for missing the end of the OP with another contribution. I’m a big Smashing Pumpkins fan, and the first time I heard “Everlasting Gaze” off _Machina_ I was liking it well enough until that a capella bridge about 2:45 into the song. It was at that point that the Ounpkins turned into self-parody for me, and that was the last album I bought by them.

I remember not liking that song at first, and thinking it sounded like Rob Zombie’s work. I remember a classmate specifically citing that a capella bridge. It wasn’t long before I came to love that album, and frankly I think it’s a towering achievement. You should also give _Monuments to an Elegy_ a try, though they are quite different.

> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> Ben Folds has this beautiful, deep song called “[Cologne](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxx5WvePCtY)” with rich instrumentation and even a choir. It’s a really great breakup song.
> 
> Except in the middle of his beautiful lyrics are these fucking awful lyrics. An absolute SongShit:
> 
> “Says here an astronaut  
> put on a pair of diapers  
> and drove eighteen hours  
> to kill her boyfriend.”
> 
> Goddammit, it really kills the mood!

True story, but yeah.  
Now, I was thinking of “Roll the Bones”, by Rush. The song would be ruined by the rap sections, but at least Geddy Lee’s voice is electronically deepened, and that makes it less goofy, but even so, it’s really jarring and awkward.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/100 "2015-03-22T18:07:32Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> In lieu of the lead singer’s passing, I could never understand Toto’s Roseanna.
> 
> I have a music degree, so I appreciate the mix of styles this song has, but why it was a hit I’ll never understand. Simply because: You Can’t Dance To This Song. The break in between the bridge and the Chorus of “Meet you all the way…” is basically when you pause the dance and get a drink. It’s a big rubato drum break with the horn section, so just pause and wait.
> 
> Rest of the song has three different tempos and three different rhythms, so I hope you can fox trot, waltz, rhumba and conga. Maybe a little break dance spin or a balance on the head you can do for that awful drum break.
> 
> It’s a well written song, requires talented musicians, singers, horn section, but it feels like it was four ideas for four songs thrown together.

Everybody who sang on “[Rosanna](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosanna_(song)#Personnel)” is still alive. Toto have had any number of singers.

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