# SongShitting, as in, "Thats a real good song, except for this part"

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 19, 2015, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359 "2015-03-19T05:25:05Z")\
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Yeah, well except it’s not really bagpipes.

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Firth of Fifth. Around 6 minutes in, you realize that they are dragging out the interlude way too long, and you’ve still got a few minutes to go. Just awful. There’s a lot of solid material there, but not ten minutes worth of solid material.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/143 "2016-06-08T13:48:19Z")

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> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> Wow. I consider the rest of the song a life-support system for the guitar solo. It’s not bad, but the song would have never done as well as it did without that roller-coaster of a solo. One of the great rock guitar solos of all time. Yeah, it was lengthy and perhaps indulgent, but it was also awesome.

I had never noticed this guitar solo before, strangely enough. In my mind that song was a snappy, crisp little New Wave number. I would have bet money against there being such a solo! (Is there a radio edit without it?) But now that I listen, I have to agree with the OP’s wife, sorry. Although I guess it never bothered me before…

> [@Art\_Rock](#):
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> “that inane synth crap” is the best part of the song. YMMV, and indeed does.

I’m with you. It’s just kind of an unmemorable and repetitive ballad without it.

> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> “Sweet Home Alabama” is a joke from start to finish. It’s a parody of anthems, told from the point of view of a redneck. Calling it “morally indefensible” is like getting outraged that Jonathan Swift advocated eating babies.

I’m skeptical of this, but whatever the actual truth in their motivations, I don’t think the vast, vast majority of people (on both sides) who have ever listened to this song see it that way.

> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Strongly disagree with those who don’t like the last half of “Layla.”

Thank god I’m not the only one! This whole thread is actually kind of stressful to read, because in nearly every case, I’m either unaware of the song, indifferent to the portion in question, or, like with “Layla”, I strongly disagree with the dislike for that portion. To wit:

> [@RobotDevilDog](#):
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> I always thought the perfect example of this was Meat Loaf’s “Paradise By the Dashboard Light”. Most of the song is a classic rocker, but then the fun comes to a screeching halt for over a minute so that we can hear the eternally annoying (RIP) Phil Rizzuto doing a play-by-play of sexual baseball metaphors.

B-b-but that part makes the song! :eek:

> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> That dreadful sax solo in “The One Thing” by INXS.

Is not dreadful, is awesome, like that entire song. 😛

> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> The Church’s “Under the Milky Way” is a wonderful, beautiful song - except for the bagpipe solo in the middle.

That’s the \*highlight \*of a, yes, wonderful, beautiful song!

> [@xizor](#):
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> Tom Petty has a fine song in _American Girl_. But why oh why did he feel the need to include a “disco interlude” in the middle.

Disco? :rolleyes: Great song, including that part, which doesn’t sound like any disco tune I’ve ever heard.

> [@Les\_Espaces\_Du\_Sommeil](#):
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> **Blondie** - _Rapture_
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> The ethereal melody in the first half of the song may be the best one they ever wrote. And then **Debbie** starts rapping… :(.

Nope, that part is awesome too. “And he shoots you dead, and he eats your head/And then you’re in the man from Mars.” So funny! 😃

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/144 "2016-06-08T14:55:35Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> > [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> > Well, not to pile on ELP but the acoustic guitar solo in the middle of “Take a Pebble” always drove me nuts - especially the hootin’ and hollerin’ and hand clapping at the end. Completely orthogonal to the rest of the song.
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> I just heard that song for the first time in a long time, and I was thinking, you know, if you cut that silly middle part out, it would be a cool (but short) song.

Well, I’d only cut out the guitar section, still leaving the song almost 10 minutes long. I love the piano variations/improvisation parts.

An example of a long song which would become a short song is “Moonchild” by King Crimson - a nice little song until about 2:40, then almost ten minutes of random (and uninteresting) noodling.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/145 "2016-06-08T15:08:28Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> That’s the \*highlight \*of a, yes, wonderful, beautiful song!

I was going through your post, nodding in agreement, wondering why those idiots were disparaging so many great songs …

… and then this.

We can never be friends.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/146 "2016-06-08T15:09:06Z")

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I just realized I forgot to include my own nominee. What readily comes to mind is pretty much any song by the Sugarcubes (“Deus” for example). The Bjork parts are, for my money, better than any of her solo stuff. But then that goofball guy comes in and starts talking nonsense for a while until we get to hear her sing again.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/147 "2016-06-08T15:52:18Z")

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> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> Well, I’d only cut out the guitar section, still leaving the song almost 10 minutes long. I love the piano variations/improvisation parts.
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> An example of a long song which would become a short song is “Moonchild” by King Crimson - a nice little song until about 2:40, then almost ten minutes of random (and uninteresting) noodling.

Fripp himself approved of a newer and much shorter version of Moonchild on one of the latest remix/remasters of In the Court of the Crimson King album.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/148 "2016-06-08T16:47:31Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> I was going through your post, nodding in agreement, wondering why those idiots were disparaging so many great songs …
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> … and then this.
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> We can never be friends.

LOL…maybe everyone else I quoted is thinking the same thing but excepting their own contribution. (Just please don’t tell me you like the dude singer in the Sugarcubes.)

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> LOL…maybe everyone else I quoted is thinking the same thing but excepting their own contribution. (Just please don’t tell me you like the dude singer in the Sugarcubes.)

Ummm, I do say nicely.

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Mine is “Seven Seas of Rhye” by Queen.  
It has a middle part where the music dies and then is followed by a high-falsetto part that breaks the rythm. Also they ends kinda sucks.

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Is not dreadful, is awesome, like that entire song. 😛

It’s amazing how many entries in this thread make me think: _“But… but… that’s my favorite part!”_ 🙂

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For reasons entirely due to the alphabet, and not personal taste, if nothing else is specifically chosen and I turn on the car MP3 player it plays Chiquitita by ABBA. The beginning is fantastic, the melody is as good as Benny and Bjorn ever came up with, the harmonies and voices magical. Then it gets to the chorus and suddenly gets wrecked by an obnoxious \*DUM dom, DUM, dom, DUM dom \*bassline that sounds like, I dunno, a German brass band tuba part. It’s Ogawful.

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> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> It’s amazing how many entries in this thread make me think: _“But… but… that’s my favorite part!”_ 🙂

I know, right?

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I don’t know which Zeppelin song it is but it must be popular because it’s on the radio all the time. “Whole Lotta Love” I think. Towards the end of the song Robert Plant starts masturbating, loudly. It made me think this was the exact reason why parents thought rock and roll was garbage.

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Is that the one where he talks about squeezing his lemon until the juice runs down his leg? 🙂

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Nah, that song’s metaphorically describing getting a handjob, not an auditory depiction of masturbation. Even though, whoah, that’s one vociferous bout of masturbation, my crude understanding of human psychology leads me to believe that **DWMmarch** has memorized the song title so they can know what song makes them feel “wrong” - which is integral to understanding what Rock 'n Roll is all about. 🙂

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Since this has been bumped, I can add one from a few months ago.

**Twenty One Pilots** _Tear in my Heart_ - Great song, except for the dorky middle section complaining about potholes.

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I always thought the chorus of Layla was great but the verses were a drag. And I always thought that Hold Your Head Up by Argent had a great verse but let down on the chorus. But when I imagine combining the best parts of both it doesn’t work. Something about the dynamics.

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> **Twenty One Pilots** _Tear in my Heart_ - Great song, except for the dorky middle section complaining about potholes.

So bad, they do it at least _twice!_

God, I hate that song.

And you don’t use cement to fill potholes, you dumbfucks!

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One of my favorite songs is the Pretenders’ [Middle Of The Road](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_nrAyo0tLI). It’s got a great guitar sound, very clever lyrics, got Chrissie howling and purring, a nice guitar break, it’s the perfect rock song, except for one thing: the interlude between the guitar break and the third verse in which Chrissie only counts. It’s obviously a placeholder for some unfinished lyrics or a more refined instrumental part, but for a time the song loses all tension and energy. When the third verse sets in, it’s all good again, but that part is a taint in an otherwise perfect song.

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