# SongShitting, as in, "Thats a real good song, except for this part"

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 19, 2015, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359 "2015-03-19T05:25:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/161 "2016-06-10T01:06:05Z")

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> [@scabpicker](#):
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> Even though, whoah, that’s one vociferous bout of masturbation, my crude understanding of human psychology leads me to believe that **DWMmarch** has memorized the song title so they can know what song makes them feel “wrong” - which is integral to understanding what Rock 'n Roll is all about. 🙂

I’m not sure I follow. Nothing wrong with masturbation or rock and roll, I’m just not a fan of combining the two and broadcasting it daily. There’s a similar bit in Guns 'N Roses “Rocket Queen” although in this case actual sex. It probably prevented that song from being a hit. It’s a great tune but those orgasms in the middle make it radio unfriendly. But in the case of Zep, those moans are on the radio every single day. Imagine if you had a neighbor that did that. Every day. Like clockwork. That’s what’s wrong with it.

All this talk of self-indulgent masturbation reminds me of Frank Zappa, whose talent is obvious and whom I wish I liked more. “Joe’s Garage” is a great song except for when we get to the bit where we hear what it sounded like back then. Zappa is saying “look, I intentionally put shit in my song!” Yes, we noticed, thank you. “My Guitar Wants to Kill Your Mama” would be great except for the section where there are a few different solos starting with what sounds like someone blowing into a recorder with an air compressor. “Titties and Beer” starts out as a great conflict between Zappa and the Devil but goes right off the rails after “gimme that paper, bet your ass I will sign.” Although I do love the line about how the devil has had “Milhous Nixon and Agnew too. And both of those suckas was worse than you!”

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/162 "2016-06-10T01:31:17Z")

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I have to throw down the ole camelclutch on a pair of utterly dorky-ass segues thanks to those progbastards Yes.

One of my favourite numbers, “Siberian Khatru”, is about 98.724 perfection, but then this putrescent scat thingie at 3:02 [Yes - Siberian Khatru - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0HnIr6jYWU) puts egg all over Jon’s face. (_Totally_ relate to Chris - r.i.p - apparently getting in fights with Jon a lot about the fucking airy-fairy vacuousness of the latter’s lyrics).

side note - the band usually recorded their long-ass songs in parts, and quite seamlessly, and so examples like the one above were thankfully very few and far between.

The other one, which might actually be my numero uno tuno by themo - if Rick tried playing this 70’s game-show zinger in my presence, I’d order him to hit the mat and give me 30…fast, with straight back, elbows in. At 6:33 [- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHl6sDLX8tQ)  
Rick - the “price” actually turned out to be very dead fucking “wrong”.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/163 "2016-06-10T02:09:01Z")

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I’m sorry but “3:02 in Siberian Khatru” ???

Silly human race

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/164 "2016-06-10T02:21:56Z")

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**drad dog** - Hilarious! I actually forgot to mention in my previous post that I thought the chorus in “Hold Your Head Up” was perfectly fine and dandy.  
You scatter, you! 😛

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/165 "2016-06-10T02:40:33Z")

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“Kool Thing” by Sonic Youth. It’s not my favorite song from _Goo_ but I’ve always liked it except for Chuck D’s vocal. I’m not sure why he’s even there. He shows up and just talks for a bit. “Yeah…yeah…word up…yeah.” That part just sounds so out of place. Kim Gordon doesn’t need any help.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/SDTSUwIZdMk/maxresdefault.jpg "Sonic Youth - Kool Thing") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDTSUwIZdMk)

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/166 "2016-06-10T04:33:04Z")

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The guitar strumming at the beginning of “Black Dog” can go, and the same with the bothersome telephone ringing at the end Bowie’s “Life on Mars”.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/167 "2016-06-10T04:47:24Z")

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Probably a lot of people will disagree, but the first thing that occurred to me was Aerosmith’s “Dream On”, when Tyler decides to run an experiment we’ll generously call “how high can I screech?”. Great song expect for that.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/168 "2016-06-10T10:18:28Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> I’m not sure I follow. Nothing wrong with masturbation or rock and roll, I’m just not a fan of combining the two and broadcasting it daily.

I’m not saying it’s wrong or anything, I’m really just teasing. I don’t have any particular problem with the middle of “Whole Lotta Love”. But yeah, I could have heard it a few less times on the radio and not gone wanting for more.

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**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/169 "2016-06-10T10:24:16Z")

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Whole Lotta Love would without doubt be one of the most mean, cool, and funny rock song ever if it wasn’t for \*that \*part.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/170 "2016-06-10T14:14:09Z")

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[quote=“Accidental\_Martyr, post:165, topic:715359”]

“Kool Thing” by Sonic Youth. It’s not my favorite song from _Goo_ but I’ve always liked it except for Chuck D’s vocal. I’m not sure why he’s even there. He shows up and just talks for a bit. “Yeah…yeah…word up…yeah.” That part just sounds so out of place. Kim Gordon doesn’t need any help.

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I’ve always been of two minds about that. On the one hand, I do think it sounds cool, very fitting with the song. OTOH, I have also had a certain nervousness that there might be something vaguely racist about what they are doing there. :o

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**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/171 "2016-06-10T18:14:06Z")

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[quote=“Accidental\_Martyr, post:165, topic:715359”]

“Kool Thing” by Sonic Youth. It’s not my favorite song from _Goo_ but I’ve always liked it except for Chuck D’s vocal. I’m not sure why he’s even there. He shows up and just talks for a bit. “Yeah…yeah…word up…yeah.” That part just sounds so out of place. Kim Gordon doesn’t need any help.

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> I’ve always been of two minds about that. On the one hand, I do think it sounds cool, very fitting with the song. OTOH, I have also had a certain nervousness that there might be something vaguely racist about what they are doing there. :o

It just always sounded out of place to me. What do you think is possibly racist?

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/172 "2016-06-10T18:46:53Z")

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This thread symbolizes everything that is negative about youtube and downloading music.

I used to come around to love things in songs because I loved the song and was carried away by it. It was a reminder of the song, even when it wasn’t being the “best part” of itself.

Whenever I hear the opening of Black Dog, or, for instance, the crickets(?) and ambience in Close to the Edge I am already in the song. I could never take exception to these choices of the artist.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/173 "2016-06-10T19:34:06Z")

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Yeah, sure. It’s caused by people downloading music.

Oh wait, no…it’s not. People genuinely don’t like the things they don’t like, and have since the dawn of people.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/174 "2016-06-13T14:08:48Z")

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**Audioslave** - _Show Me How To Live_

Great song, nearly ruined with that “whatever” during the last dying seconds. What the hell is that? Auto-tune or something?

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/175 "2016-06-13T14:38:49Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> This thread symbolizes everything that is negative about youtube and downloading music.

Kids today and their weird theories.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/176 "2016-06-13T18:48:39Z")

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Reminded of another one this morning on the radio.

\*\*Gorillaz \*\*_Feel Good Inc._ - The laughing. The god-awful laughing. I hope the reason the song didn’t win the Record of the Year Grammy was that obnoxious laughing. I’m inspired by this thread to download Audacity just to strip out the fucking laughing. Did I mention I really really hate the laughing?

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/177 "2016-06-13T20:08:08Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> Reminded of another one this morning on the radio.
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> \*\*Gorillaz \*\*_Feel Good Inc._ - The laughing. The god-awful laughing. I hope the reason the song didn’t win the Record of the Year Grammy was that obnoxious laughing. I’m inspired by this thread to download Audacity just to strip out the fucking laughing. Did I mention I really really hate the laughing?

Huh. I actually think the laughter sets the tenor for the song. To each his own, I suppose!

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/178 "2016-06-13T22:09:46Z")

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I kinda dig the sound of the chorus sections of Demi Lovatos “Cool for the Summer” the rest of it…meh.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/179 "2016-06-14T07:42:53Z")

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> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#):
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> It just always sounded out of place to me. What do you think is possibly racist?

Well, it’s making fun of LL Cool J (whom Kim Gordon had interviewed) for being a dumbass, basically. And even if you don’t know that, it definitely comes across as holding up a kind of stereotypical black male empty-headed machismo for ridicule. Seems like maybe you should be a black woman before you touch that one with a ten foot pole?

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/songshitting-as-in-thats-a-real-good-song-except-for-this-part/715359/180 "2016-06-14T20:39:37Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Sweet Home Alabama is a great song about state pride except the part with all the racism in it.

What, that’s not right. Sweet Home Alabama’s message is that “not everybody in the south is racist.”

In Birmingham they love the Governor (Oooo, Oooo, Oooo) (Democrat George Wallace)  
But, we all did what we could do (We didn’t support his actions)  
Watergate does not bother me  
Does your conscience bother you? (A retort to Republican’s that branded Alabama a racist state due to George Wallace’s actions.)

It’s not well written but the main message is that not all “Southern Men” are racist. . . and we love Alabama.

Next, we can discuss “Brown Sugar.”

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