# Sons of Anarchy 11-16 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 17, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-11-16/560979 "2010-11-17T15:05:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Minnie\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Minnie\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minnie_Luna)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-11-16/560979/1 "2010-11-17T15:05:36Z")
Did anyone watch last night? I thought it was one of the best hours of television I have ever seen. ---
**Author:** ![Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cornelius_Tuggerson)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-11-16/560979/2 "2010-11-17T18:27:04Z")
It was a good episode, but it didn’t really do it for me. The kidnapped child and girlfriend thing has been going on for too long, there is too much tension, its hard to just sit back and enjoy the show. I got the same feeling while watching Dark Knight. The little bits that make the show great are not enjoyable when there is two hostage situations going on over the course of multiple episodes. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-11-16/560979/3 "2010-11-17T21:31:08Z")
I liked the priest character as a foil. I thought he was horribly misguided and kidding himself. So we have him being carted off, probably to be Tessio’d and it also looks like Tara might be killed. Two more episodes this season. This was quite a good episode. ---
**Author:** ![Silent\_Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Silent\_Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silent_Kal)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-11-16/560979/4 "2010-11-17T21:48:19Z")
I don’t get why Tara didn’t just _shoot_ Salazar once his back was turned. At the very least, she should have demanded he drop his gun before she treated his girlfriend. Don’t think Tara will make it through this; I knew she was doomed from the moment she said “Nothing’s going to happen to me!” a few episodes ago. Curiously, FX replayed that very moment during a commercial break last night… ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-11-16/560979/5 "2010-11-17T21:56:50Z")
> [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](#): > > It was a good episode, but it didn’t really do it for me. The kidnapped child and girlfriend thing has been going on for too long, _ **there is too much tension** _, its hard to just sit back and enjoy the show. I got the same feeling while watching Dark Knight. The little bits that make the show great are not enjoyable when there is two hostage situations going on over the course of multiple episodes. Series creator Kurt Sutter is an alumnus from _The Shield_, so you should only expect tensions to ratchet ever higher as a season progresses. I don’t think the object of shows like this is to “sit back and enjoy;” they _want_ you on the edge of your seat, biting your nails, saying “OMFG! What next?!” ---
**Author:** ![Minnie\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Minnie\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Minnie_Luna)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-11-16/560979/6 "2010-11-18T17:35:43Z")
> [@Silent\_Kal](#): > > I don’t get why Tara didn’t just _shoot_ Salazar once his back was turned. At the very least, she should have demanded he drop his gun before she treated his girlfriend. > > Don’t think Tara will make it through this; I knew she was doomed from the moment she said “Nothing’s going to happen to me!” a few episodes ago. Curiously, FX replayed that very moment during a commercial break last night… Agree on the Tara not shooting Salazar or at least attempting to get away. I also agree that Tara is toast. Poor, brooding Jax has to lose her in some spectacular fashion. Plus Gemma is getting darker and darker. IMHO, it was her being raped and the kidnapping of Abel that is pushing her off the edge of unstable to full blown insanity. I started watching midway through season 2. Is it worth getting season 1 on DVD? Does Hulu have it? It wasn’t available streaming from Netflix on the wii, but I am wondering if I should add it to the queue? I’ve heard some of the details (re:Abel’s mom), but will I understand more if I watch it? Does it say how Jax’s father died? ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-11-16/560979/7 "2010-11-18T18:09:07Z")
> [@Minnie\_Luna](#): > > Does it say how Jax’s father died? It’s implied that Clay killed him, with Gemma’s knowledge and approval (although I’d bet money that if that is the case, Tig was most likely the triggerman, or side-by-side with Clay when it happened). ---
**Author:** ![Silent\_Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Silent\_Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silent_Kal)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-11-16/560979/8 "2010-11-18T18:31:24Z")
Someone on another forum said that the SoA iPhone app gives a lot of the show’s backstory, and states that John Teller’s death was, in fact, an accident. Not necessarily canon, maybe even deliberate misinformation. Clay and Gemma’s previous comments strongly hint that there was much more going on. Suicide, perhaps? I would definitely Netflix season one, especially as it seems the story is heading back to Jax vs. Clay. ---
**Author:** ![Emily\_Litella](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emily_litella/32/3370_2.png) [@Emily\_Litella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emily_Litella)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-11-16/560979/9 "2010-11-18T19:29:33Z")
I started watching during the second season too, and I got the first season DVDs, I’m glad I did. There’s a lot of character development and some pretty funny scenes too. Jax finds a notebook written by John Teller that gives a lot of backstory about John and the club, also info about Opie’s wife Donna’s death. I thought this week’s episode was pretty good, really suspensful. I think I know where the arcs are going to go next, and I’m always surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-11-16/560979/10 "2010-11-20T05:44:20Z")
> [@Minnie\_Luna](#): > > Does it say how Jax’s father died? My WAG, so not spoilered: he was an outlaw biker, so anything is possible, including dying in a stupid accident on the way to the store to buy bread.