# Sons of Anarchy - Season 2 Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 9, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354 "2009-09-09T00:13:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/121 "2009-11-20T06:30:51Z")
> [@Chopper9760](#): > > When the crap are we going to find out what happened to Mastrubator and Darby? They must play a role in the upcoming battle. This was bad writing, whatever it is. There’s no way that Clay wouldn’t be informed about any bodies or lack of bodies in the fire. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/122 "2009-11-20T07:50:01Z")
> [@Chopper9760](#): > > I loved the episode. I didn’t expect it and it changed the landscape of the show big time. Opie forgiving the club, Tig and Clay particularly, isn’t what I expected. It makes a lot of sense to me though and if they play up lingering resentment, I’m A-okay with it. It’s kind of like forgiving a cheating partner; sure you might be pissed and betrayed but it’s tough to leave if you’ve built your life around someone. > > I see Clay getting tired of Opie playing the Donna card and reopening the conflict. > > So, is Stahl neutralized with guilt or is she out for blood after she and Opie’s…discussion? > > What about Chibs? Did he come all the way clean w/ SAMCRO or did he sign the deal and hedge his bets? What becomes of his family and the gun connection in either case? > > When the crap are we going to find out what happened to Mastrubator and Darby? They must play a role in the upcoming battle. > > Gah, why only 2 more episodes ☹ I get the new episode on Tuesday night. I’m in the SF Bay Area. When do you guys get it? I don’t think Opie is done and over the Donna thing. I don’t think Piney is either. Neither Piney nor Opie is very pleased with Jax for not doing anything and I think that is going to fester. Stahl is going to give Opie a pass for the assualt, but she is reckless and obsessed. She’s not just the best actor on the show, she’s one of the best I’ve ever seen. After getting Donna killed, she offered to do the same for Chibbs. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/123 "2009-11-20T22:25:59Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > Another brilliant episode. > > Tig was great telling Opie that he killed Donna. He was so rattled with guilt that risking death seemed like a better idea than living. When did Tig tell Opie this? I just rewatched the latest episode on Hulu because of this statement and I still didn’t see it. Was it on another episode? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/124 "2009-11-20T22:35:18Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > When did Tig tell Opie this? I just rewatched the latest episode on Hulu because of this statement and I still didn’t see it. Was it on another episode? 😕 Nevermind. I seed that since I watch this show on Hulu I’m a week behind you guys. So basically I just spoiled a bombshell for myself.:smack: ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/125 "2009-11-22T18:40:58Z")
I disagree that either Piney or Opie perceives Jax as having been doing nothing about the Donna thing. The entire reason they look to him to change the club is because he is incredibly patient. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/126 "2009-11-22T20:28:35Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I disagree that either Piney or Opie perceives Jax as having been doing nothing about the Donna thing. The entire reason they look to him to change the club is because he is incredibly patient. Piney is, almost certainly, not fully behind Jax on the patience thing. What Opie actually thinks remains to be revealed, I imagine. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/127 "2009-11-22T22:10:15Z")
Piney is Polonius and Opie Laertes. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/128 "2009-11-22T22:13:20Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Piney is, almost certainly, not fully behind Jax on the patience thing. What Opie actually thinks remains to be revealed, I imagine. We’ll see now that the power shift has happened though the previews kind of have me concerned. A planned rumble? :dubious: I was kind of hoping to see them play people off of one another let the dude know that they are selling heroin in the prisons and watch him off Zobell. ---
**Author:** ![Chopper9760](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@Chopper9760](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chopper9760)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/129 "2009-11-23T16:52:57Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > We’ll see now that the power shift has happened though the previews kind of have me concerned. > > A planned rumble? :dubious: I was kind of hoping to see them play people off of one another let the dude know that they are selling heroin in the prisons and watch him off Zobell. Yeah, Clay says he’ll take Jax’s lead and Jax uses his awesome new powers to…be a Jet and kick some Shark-ass? WTF show, _what the fuck?_ If they’re going that route I want to see synchronized snapping and watch Tig burst into song. _When you’re a Son you’re a Son all the way,_ ---
**Author:** ![Chopper9760](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@Chopper9760](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chopper9760)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/130 "2009-11-23T16:59:26Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I get the new episode on Tuesday night. I’m in the SF Bay Area. When do you guys get it? > > I don’t think Opie is done and over the Donna thing. I don’t think Piney is either. Neither Piney nor Opie is very pleased with Jax for not doing anything and I think that is going to fester. > > Stahl is going to give Opie a pass for the assualt, but she is reckless and obsessed. She’s not just the best actor on the show, she’s one of the best I’ve ever seen. After getting Donna killed, she offered to do the same for Chibbs. Tuesday night as well, 7pm. It’s the only show we watch as it airs, we just can’t wait. Piney is going to be pissed at Jax for inaction and ashamed of Opie for not taking vengeance. I think you’re right, this is bound to fester in some fashion. _That’s a damn good point!_ Stahl really hasn’t learned her lesson or changed her MO one whit, has she? I like having Chibs around so I don’t want him to go off the rails because Johnny offs his family. OTOH, how horribly angsty and interesting would it be to watch? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RogueRacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RogueRacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RogueRacer)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/131 "2009-11-23T21:58:02Z")
Having taken a year or so break from this board, I haven’t posted to this thread before now. I love the show. I’m friends with some MC guys, which makes it more interesting talking over different aspects with them. Even though they aren’t one percenters they’ve seen things like patch overs and forced tatoo removal. I was watching the season 1 finale on DVD a few days ago with the commentary turned on. It’s a horrible way to actually watch an episode, but some of it was interesting. The biggest thing was that Opie was originally supposed to die at the end of season 1, not his wife. They changed that up mid season after how much the Opie character grew on them and the impact the character seemed to have. Also, Piney wasn’t originally supposed to be Opie’s dad. That was written in after the actors had physical resemblance. It’s also pretty wild hearing Charlie Hunnam’s (Jax) British accent. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/132 "2009-11-25T14:29:15Z")
Man, I thought the rumble was gonna be bad, your commentary on Jets and Sharks made me giggle **Chopper**. **RogueRacer** Interesting on the commentary. I’ve been wondering to see how it will diverge from Hamlet, that’s part of what makes it exciting actually. I think we are at a crossroads where it either goes Hamlet, or it doesn’t. If Ophelia gets killed in the next episode that’ll tell us much I actually was pleased with how the rumble turned out. I love that they have brought in Lem from ‘The Shield’, I fell in love with that actor on that show. As Sons of Anarchy is the successor to the Shield on FX’s line-up and filled the hole left by The Shield in a timely manner, it’s a nice little bonus. I thought making a fort preparing for a siege was a little hokey. What happens if Stahl decides to harass them while they are all locked up bearing assault rifles in plain view? A fort in the middle of Charming simply isn’t a strategically sound idea. It’s nice to see Stumpy back though. 😉 I loved seeing AJ take out the heroin operation, and Zobell using the heroin to get away from being killed was perfect. Though, I think he’s going to be put into the cell with AJ. I felt bad for the ‘slave labor’ as AJ put it. I even kind of had a bit of admiration for his white power ideals when he said, “The point wasn’t taking over cities, it was making sure color doesn’t gain power.”, I can have some sympathy for a tribalist and his views even if I don’t give a fuck about his tribe. ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/133 "2009-11-25T22:35:19Z")
I love the way they used Straylight Run’s “Hands in the Sky.” At times I think the show uses too much music, but that was such a perfect hype up song. It came right after Tara assaulted her supervisor, which I don’t agree with, but I was oddly very satisfied with the moment. The song was a nice concise way of saying “Samcro! Fuck Yea!” The only disappointing thing about this episode was that all the Aryans didn’t get slaughtered. BTW, let’s not forget that violence is wrong folks. I think. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/134 "2009-11-28T07:53:09Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > It came right after Tara assaulted her supervisor, which I don’t agree with, but I was oddly very satisfied with the moment. Dunno, I think it was quite deserved. The lady was getting her fired for being a gangster, because gangsters are dangerous. If Tara is actually a gangster and is dangerous, than the lady got what she was asking for. If Tara wasn’t actually a gangster, then the lady was firing her for no reason. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2009, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/135 "2009-11-28T09:11:36Z")
Tara and the administrator are both bullies, but the admin drove Tara to it. Tara really did size her up just right. I’m waiting for the season finale. ---
**Author:** ![Chopper9760](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@Chopper9760](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chopper9760)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/136 "2009-11-30T17:56:47Z")
I was out of town when the ep aired and my Dad told me “The most awesome thing that has ever happened on SOA happened in that episode, you HAVE to watch it.” He was referring to Tara giving the admin the beat-down. My jaw was dropped the whole time and then I laughed almost to the point of tears. I know SOA isn’t realistic at all but it’s FUN! I really thought the Tara arc would play out in a predictable fashion. I assumed that she would go “Neo-Gemma” (still an awesome term **Sage Rat** ) and then falter in the face of SAMCRO’s activities and bolt. I’m so glad I was wrong. Yeah, unrealistic but the realistic track would have been boring as fuck-all. _Tara choking a bitch_ = Gold-Plated AWESOME. Ooooh, **mswas** , I dig your predictions! I hope your spoiler-guess does not come to pass but I admit that it would make for good television. Good call about AJ and Zobelle ending up in a cell together, that’s a pretty great counter move after Zobelle’s drug brilliance. I rather liked the fort. The guys on the roof w/ AK’s was ridiculous and everyone in my house was irritated. Aside from that though, seemed like a good plan. Zobelle and Co. are dangerous cats who’ve proven they’ll go after family, I’m glad SAMCRO actually took some precautions instead of constantly reacting. So the “planned rumble” bit was actually okay. Still not up to par with the scheming I expect/hope for from Jax but at least he thought to have armed back up. Why did they do it inside Charming? Did they just assume that the Chief would handle the cops? Or is it all part of some larger plot? _head scratch_ I’m a little tweaked about the masturbator, I like Stumpy but why hasn’t he mentioned Darby? No bodies found means Darby got away and surly Stumpy knows that…right? I don’t want Darby to disappear into a plot hole but I don’t want him to sneak back and play some kind of pivotal roll because he’s a fucktard and boring. I hope Lem is back next season and we get to find out about the bad blood between him and Tig. Stahl smacked a dude! LMAO, she’s just going to keep coming and I’m glad, can’t get enough Ally Walker in this role. ---
**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/137 "2009-12-02T04:59:37Z")
So I’m assuming no one has yet posted after the finale because you’re all recovering from strokes. That was one of the most intense episodes of television I have ever witnessed. And just as everyone had finally reconnected and gotten some healing, too. Good goddamn. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/138 "2009-12-02T05:14:54Z")
All I can say is holy fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/139 "2009-12-02T05:15:46Z")
I won’t get it until tomorrow morning. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354/140 "2009-12-02T05:50:38Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I won’t get it until tomorrow morning. ☹ Get out of this thread then, yo, you don’t want to be spoiled! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-2-thread/509354.md?page=8)