# Sons of Anarchy Season 6 Premiere **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 12, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615 "2013-09-12T00:12:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/61 "2013-11-07T15:30:00Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > Thanks for putting into words the thing that has been nagging at me for some time. The pace has moved into the molasses zone and one might suspect that Sutter is saving his big surprises for next season. > > The scenes with Clay seem almost tacked on for a little variety, but ring hollow in light of Clay’s earlier behavior. > > And I have yet to see the point in the girl banging on the bike and smashing the window except to demonstrate that Jax has more humanity than just exploding in rage at every provocation. > > The scene with CCH lacked the oomph they might have hoped for. It’s very hard to like her! Yeah, I’m starting to wonder if Jax doesn’t have some sort of bipolar disorder. One minute he’s helping out some troubled teen, and then the next minute he’s about to whip ass on that poor lawyer lady. Or hell, who knows what sort of emotional damage he did to that woman. And for what? Doing her fucking job? Someone needs to tell me who I’m supposed to be rooting for in this series. Because I think they all suck. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/62 "2013-11-07T15:40:35Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > Someone needs to tell me who I’m supposed to be rooting for in this series. Because I think they all suck. The main characters have all convinced me that I wouldn’t miss them if they got killed off. But I would miss Tig and Chibs and maybe Wayne. It keeps lurking in my mind that something bad is going to happen to those kids. Just for the sake of the Tragedy it would imply. Sins of the father, and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Tully\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@Tully\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tully_Mars)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/63 "2013-11-07T15:51:59Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > Yeah, I’m starting to wonder if Jax doesn’t have some sort of bipolar disorder. One minute he’s helping out some troubled teen, and then the next minute he’s about to whip ass on that poor lawyer lady. Or hell, who knows what sort of emotional damage he did to that woman. And for what? Doing her fucking job? > > Someone needs to tell me who I’m supposed to be rooting for in this series. Because I think they all suck. I saw Jax’s move with the teen as an attempt to regain his humanity. Jax had to remind Lowen (sp?) that he didn’t really care about the law when it came to protecting client confidentiality. I felt it was a calculated move on his part. She very quickly remembered who he was. By the way, I think Lowen is smoking hot. As to who to root for - In my opinion, that’s one of the most honest things about this show. In that world, there are no good guys. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/64 "2013-11-07T16:06:39Z")
> [@Tully\_Mars](#): > > By the way, I think Lowen is smoking hot. She surely has cleaned up good since _Deadwood_! ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/65 "2013-11-07T16:17:52Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > She surely has cleaned up good since _Deadwood_! Holy crap! Consider my mind blown! I did not make that connection until you pointed that out. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/66 "2013-11-20T15:46:50Z")
Looks like trying to predict what Sutter is thinking is like trying to predict sunspots! Beware of spoilers if you missed last night’s episode but otherwise this is a pretty good analysis of where things are in the show: [Sons of Anarchy: Jax’s True Plan Is Revealed - And Gets Deadly](http://www.tvguide.com/News/Sons-of-Anarchy-Recap-Aon-Rud-Persanta-1073665.aspx?rss=breakingnews) Wanna take a stab at how this season plays out? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tully\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@Tully\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tully_Mars)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/67 "2013-11-20T17:25:25Z")
I must admit, I didn’t see that one coming. Since it’s fiction, the writers can go anywhere from here. But, my 0.02 - the Irish Kings won’t take this lying down. There will be repercussions. The DA will take this lying down (or just lying) because it suits her politically. She will realize she can hand the press a pre-packaged solution to the school shooting, all tied up with a red ribbon. Don’t forget, the Chinese still have Happy and they will not be pleased that they were cut out of the gun trade. Roosevelt has to be pleased that the man responsible for his wife’s death has met his fate. ---
**Author:** ![zoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7ea924/32.png) [@zoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoog)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/68 "2013-11-20T21:07:31Z")
> [@Tully\_Mars](#): > > I must admit, I didn’t see that one coming. Nor did I. Wow. I really thought that they would save Clay’s demise for the end of the series. Even up to the moment that Jax pulled the trigger last night, I thought that they were going to work in some other twist last night. To my thinking, the Clay/Jax relationship was one of the key conflicts driving this show, now I wonder where they can take it for the last two episodes of this season and the presumed final season. ---
**Author:** ![Breen11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c0e974/32.png) [@Breen11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Breen11)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/69 "2013-11-21T00:05:57Z")
Now Jax’s conflict is with Tara, & Gemma. What will Jax do about Tara? What will Tara do? She has offers on the table, its just which will she take? Gemma is Gemma. She’ll aways be a problem for Jax or for the Club. As for the club the conflict (as of now) will be with the Irish Kings, Chinese, & if Tara rats out the club. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/70 "2013-11-21T06:10:04Z")
Tonight I re-watched the scenes after Jax and company shoot the Irish. Knowing the outcome, it was fascinating to watch the interactions, the looks on all their faces as they move to Clay’s inevitable end. Ron Perlman was just fantastic - Clay’s dawning realization of the new situation, his knowledge that it was the only course of action and his understanding that he brought it on himself. Everyone did a great job. Those were probably the best scenes of this season. ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/71 "2013-11-21T16:27:40Z")
> [@Tully\_Mars](#): > > I must admit, I didn’t see that one coming. Particularly brutal was How Jax shot Clay in the throat, let him almost bleed out, then shot him in the chest multiple times ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/72 "2013-11-21T18:52:25Z")
The Irish get rid of Galen, who is a perpetual loose cannon, but a big money maker. They get to decide whether they are a political organization or a criminal gun supplier or both. I think for dramatic purposes, once they realize that Clay did not kill their three men they are in a bit of a pickle. I’ve got to say I was more happy with Galen getting it than anyone else. Does Tara realize she gets a mulligan if she saves Bobby’s life? Does Gemma? I really enjoyed the few seconds of Tara telling Nero all of Clay’s sins in front of Gemma and watching Gemma squirm. Nice to see Clay get what he had coming at long last. Shame about the prison guard, but the boys should have disarmed them. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/73 "2013-11-21T22:21:50Z")
It woulda been easier for Tara to just give the DA the address of the cabin. “Go there now and you’ll find a club member with a bullet still in him, saving me the trouble of extracting and delivering it. I mean, if I pull out the bullet and give it to you, they’ll know I ratted, but if you just show up at the cabin, it’s unclear who did.” Though why the cops don’t already know about the cabin is unclear at best. ---
**Author:** ![tomcar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tomcar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomcar)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/74 "2013-11-21T23:58:27Z")
It makes no sense for Tara to turn on the club now. Jax has shown that he has taken enormous steps in taking the club in the right direction. All she has to do is win over Gemma who is probably softened up now for obvious reasons… but it is a TV show. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/75 "2013-11-22T02:09:26Z")
> [@tomcar](#): > > It makes no sense for Tara to turn on the club now. > > Jax has shown that he has taken enormous steps in taking the club in the right direction. All she has to do is win over Gemma who is probably softened up now for obvious reasons… but it is a TV show. Gemma is the scorpion. She can’t not do the sort of things she does. ---
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/76 "2013-11-22T14:00:22Z")
I don’t get why Jax doesn’t just tell Tara that he has a deal in place to keep her out of jail?!? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/77 "2013-11-22T14:53:18Z")
> [@SykoSkotty](#): > > I don’t get why Jax doesn’t just tell Tara that he has a deal in place to keep her out of jail?!? I would love to have the patience to go back through all the episodes of the show and run a pair of tallies for how many times Jax has said something like, “I’ll take care of that,” or “I promise…,” or “…that’s not going to happen…” and words in that vein to see how often (if ever) they come true. My hunch is “not often.” I think Tara senses that! 🙂 And I suspect Jax understands her likely reaction to things he says to her. Charlie Hunnam is good at lying convincingly and it’s why the show is so much fun to watch. The only other show where lying is the main currency of personal interaction would have to be _The Sopranos_. David Chase said in an interview that writing the show was almost formulaic in that nobody tells the truth. Sutter is playing that game well, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/78 "2013-11-22T16:10:54Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > It woulda been easier for Tara to just give the DA the address of the cabin. “Go there now and you’ll find a club member with a bullet still in him, saving me the trouble of extracting and delivering it. I mean, if I pull out the bullet and give it to you, they’ll know I ratted, but if you just show up at the cabin, it’s unclear who did.” > > Though why the cops don’t already know about the cabin is unclear at best. I’ve been wondering about the reality to this. Could she really just yank a bullet from someone, then plop it on the DA’s desk and say “There ya’ go!”? I mean, wouldn’t said evidence be contaminated and non admissible in court? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/79 "2013-11-22T16:55:09Z")
> [@Shakes](#): > > I’ve been wondering about the reality to this. Could she really just yank a bullet from someone, then plop it on the DA’s desk and say “There ya’ go!”? I mean, wouldn’t said evidence be contaminated and non admissible in court? Conveniently, the bullet looks pristine when she extracts it, which I guess sidesteps the possibility (in the real world, a probability) that a ballistic match to the guard’s gun might be difficult or impossible. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615/80 "2013-11-22T17:08:52Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > I would love to have the patience to go back through all the episodes of the show and run a pair of tallies for how many times Jax has said something like, “I’ll take care of that,” or “I promise…,” or “…that’s not going to happen…” and words in that vein to see how often (if ever) they come true. My hunch is “not often.” “That’s NOT gonna happen!” = WILL happen within two episodes. Duh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-premiere/668615.md?page=5)