# Sons of Anarchy - Who Dies Next? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 5, 2014, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621 "2014-09-05T23:47:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![justmeetee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@justmeetee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/justmeetee)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/81 "2014-11-05T15:44:53Z")
> [@zoog](#): > > And that Anarchy Afterword show (which they said last night was going to air after all of the remaining episodes) is, in my opinion, totally unwatchable. Won’t be wasting any more time on that… Unwatchable? Why are you being so kind? Who the hell was that host? And why the big fascination with sodomy? And bringing back long dead characters to answer questions for fans calling in? I think the fact that only a couple did should be grounds enough to realize how bad an idea this was. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/82 "2014-11-05T16:02:48Z")
Something else funny about SOA: there have been scenes of mutilation, decapitation, dismemberment, castration, eye removal, gang rape, prison rape, fully nude simulated sex, brain-splatter, arterial spray, torture and a thousand other forms of mayhem. But female nipples? Hey man, that’s going too far. ---
**Author:** ![zoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7ea924/32.png) [@zoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoog)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/83 "2014-11-05T18:21:45Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > This show is fantastically stupid, and yet I’m entertained. SAMCRO isn’t a fitting acronym…DUMBO would work better. > > There is so much not to like about SOA: the theme song, the musical interludes, the ridiculous plots, Katey Sagal overload (even though she’s really good in the role), Jax repeatedly saying “that’s not going to happen” or “I’ll never let that happen”, right before that exact thing happens. Etc., etc… > > So how does it all end? Hamlet, Macbeth or, god forbid, Oedipus? The writers have been setting up Abel for so long, I don’t think that payoff will be terribly satisfying. Will he tell Jax that Grandma killed Mommy, or maybe Wendy? Perhaps Wendy will kill Jax in the finale. > > I’ve read stuff around the web putting SOA up there with the Sopranos, the Wire and Breaking Bad. Hell, no. The cast is terrific, but Kurt Sutter isn’t in that league. Oedipus? :eek::eek::eek: Naw, man, this show doesn’t belong anywhere in the discussion about “best shows of all time”. I like it, it’s entertaining as hell (and I’ll differ with you about the theme song - I kind of like it and it fits really well). But up there with The Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, etc.? Yeah, no. I think it’s mostly just a good “turn off the brain and dive in” guilty pleasure. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/84 "2014-11-06T00:16:08Z")
I realize it’s a cliché to declare that social graces are becoming a thing of the past, but at least do your public rage-fucking _inside_ the police car. ---
**Author:** ![Henryunderborn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/58f4c7/32.png) [@Henryunderborn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henryunderborn)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/85 "2014-11-06T23:46:26Z")
Ever since Abel had heard grandma confess to the murder I’m broiling over for the atomic clash that comes on his relying the message. Do you know what an accident is Lunch box assault and now the full on tipping point of him probably registering her responsible for bobbies death. If Abel is a power source that can plug into jax,s jaeger bot, grand am id gonna be ripped apart in every direction by all pieces ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/86 "2014-11-07T15:40:31Z")
> [@Henryunderborn](#): > > Ever since Abel had heard grandma confess to the murder I’m broiling over for the atomic clash that comes on his relying the message. He’s just a little kid, the question is will anybody believe him? Or will Gemma finally lose it and confess? I can’t even speculate anymore, Kurt Sutter is wack. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/87 "2014-11-07T17:57:55Z")
I wonder if Jax will have to have the reason to end all reasons to actually off Gemma? So, if that’s the case, would Sutter make her desperate enough to take out Abel wants she knows that he knows? I mean, I know that killing kids in the media, in general, is pretty taboo, but our hapless MC has broken most taboos that I can think of. Would Sutter go there? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/88 "2014-11-07T18:35:20Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > I wonder if Jax will have to have the reason to end all reasons to actually off Gemma? So, if that’s the case, would Sutter make her desperate enough to take out Abel wants she knows that he knows? I mean, I know that killing kids in the media, in general, is pretty taboo, but our hapless MC has broken most taboos that I can think of. Would Sutter go there? IMHO, the fact that you asked the question means that’s exactly what will happen! 😉 Too much time has been spent on that kid not to have him be part of the downfall of the entire concept. Next to last will be Chibs. Before him, maybe Tig, but I wouldn’t bet on any of them making it out alive. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/89 "2014-11-07T19:16:52Z")
The last one alive has got to be Tig, as he is the evilest of all of them. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/90 "2014-11-07T19:48:25Z")
It’s my understanding that Gemma had a hand in killing Jax’s Dad too, right? Does Jax have any inking of this, or does he just blame Clay 100 percent? I suppose it would be interesting if Jax finds out that Gemma killed both his Dad and his wife, in rapid succession. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/91 "2014-11-07T20:40:50Z")
If I remember correctly, she told him some BS reason about her involvement, so at the very least, he knows she had her hand in it somehow. However, right before Jax killed Jurry (sp?), Jurry made it sound like there was a lot more to the story than we’ve been privy to so far. Anyone recall the details of what Gemma said back when she “confessed”? ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/92 "2014-11-07T22:24:44Z")
The Chibs-Jarry relationship is honestly one of the weirdest storylines I’ve seen on this show, which is really saying something. Also Jax is an idiot for not only snitching on Marks, but showing up as Marks is getting arrested so as to dispell any doubt of who did the snitching. Has he not seen what this guy is capable of? As someone on another message board said, it would have been great if Marks flashed an evil shit-eating grin as he was being put into the police car, so as if to say, “You think you can fuck with me?” ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/93 "2014-11-07T23:24:19Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > The last one alive has got to be Tig, as he is the evilest of all of them. Tig might disagree with you. When Happy greedily grabbed the hacksaw from Tig to carve up the corpse, “You know why I like teaming up with you, Hap? 'Cause when we do, I’m the normal one.” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/94 "2014-11-12T21:28:47Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > The Chibs-Jarry relationship is honestly one of the weirdest storylines I’ve seen on this show, which is really saying something. “I can’t do this any more,” she said, as she waited for him while not wearing pants. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2014, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/95 "2014-11-12T21:55:48Z")
And then hate-screwed him. That woman has some serious issues if she’s looking to Chibs for validation. Thank God there’s only three more episodes. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/96 "2014-11-13T03:49:00Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > And then hate-screwed him. That woman has some serious issues if she’s looking to Chibs for validation. Thank God there’s only three more episodes. That slapfight was just really bizarre, even for this show, which is saying a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/97 "2014-11-13T20:25:59Z")
We’re all probably trying to second-guess Sutter as to how the series plays out. There are many articles dealing with speculation and prediction, but [http://www.pastemagazine.com/blogs/lists/2014/11/five-predictions-for-the-final-four-sons-of-anarchy-episodes.html](http://www.pastemagazine.com/blogs/lists/2014/11/five-predictions-for-the-final-four-sons-of-anarchy-episodes.html) has some points I had yet to consider and which appear to have been researched better than the gut reactions and flights of fancy that I have done for myself. A fun read anyway for those who aren’t skittish about spoilers. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![zoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7ea924/32.png) [@zoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoog)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/98 "2014-11-13T20:42:51Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > We’re all probably trying to second-guess Sutter as to how the series plays out. There are many articles dealing with speculation and prediction, but [http://www.pastemagazine.com/blogs/lists/2014/11/five-predictions-for-the-final-four-sons-of-anarchy-episodes.html](http://www.pastemagazine.com/blogs/lists/2014/11/five-predictions-for-the-final-four-sons-of-anarchy-episodes.html) has some points I had yet to consider and which appear to have been researched better than the gut reactions and flights of fancy that I have done for myself. A fun read anyway for those who aren’t skittish about spoilers. 🙂 Gut reactions and flights of fancy are the best part! Anybody else besides me go apeshit cheering when Moses went down in that episode? That was frickin’ awesome! Hard to believe that a special ops badass like that would actually walk into a trap like that, but screw it, go with it. Seeing his eyeball dangling like that was probably the grossest thing that’s ever made me happy. Does that make me a bad person? ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2014, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/99 "2014-11-13T23:00:10Z")
> [@zoog](#): > > Gut reactions and flights of fancy are the best part! > > Anybody else besides me go apeshit cheering when Moses went down in that episode? That was frickin’ awesome! Hard to believe that a special ops badass like that would actually walk into a trap like that, but screw it, go with it. Seeing his eyeball dangling like that was probably the grossest thing that’s ever made me happy. Does that make me a bad person? It was a moment of glee for me, too. If you’re bad, I am too. He was so good at being an absolute dick that what happened was the least they could have done to allow for some audience catharsis. That’s one aspect of this show that’s not been praised enough. Revenge as served by SAO is the pace-setter for anybody wanting to compete in the Violence genre. We need a list of such events. Opie comes to mind immediately. Agent Stahl for another. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2014, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621/100 "2014-11-14T15:37:18Z")
> [@zoog](#): > > Anybody else besides me go apeshit cheering when Moses went down in that episode? No, but I cheered when Abel finally spilled the beans. I also teared up when Jax told Abel that Wendy is his real mother. Jax acting like an actual father for once. Anybody else get skeeved out at the beginning when that (ahem) lady with Jax looks remarkably like Tara? Speaking of the beginning - holy moley. Buttocks all over the place. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-anarchy-who-dies-next/697621.md?page=6)