# Sons of Guns star Will Hayden charged with child rape. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 27, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646 "2014-08-27T16:24:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/1 "2014-08-27T16:24:50Z")
This is bad. Really, really bad. Will was always a bit of a control freak on his show. His top gunsmith quit from the verbal abuse. No idea he’d do something like this. He was originally arrested on suspicion of child molestation and bonded out the next day. They upgraded it to Child Rape charges after interviewing the girl. ☹☹ Plus they are saying he was a fugitive that had left his own Perish while on bond from the original arrest. That will be the end of his gun shop. No way in hell that he can go near all those weapons now. Maybe his adult daughter and his husband can run the shop. \ Right now, I’d say there’s zero chance another season of _Sons of Guns_ will air. This is as bad a charge as it gets. > **[‘Sons of Guns’ canceled after star William Hayden charged with child rape](https://www.nydailynews.com/2014/08/27/sons-of-guns-canceled-after-star-william-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/)** > > “Sons of Guns” has been canceled in the wake of cast member Will Hayden being charged with molesting his now 12-year-old daughter. “Given the serious and horrific nature of the ch… [http://www.nola.com/crime/baton-rouge/index.ssf/2014/08/sons\_of\_guns\_star\_arrested\_aga.html](http://www.nola.com/crime/baton-rouge/index.ssf/2014/08/sons_of_guns_star_arrested_aga.html) There’s always a chance he’ll be acquitted. The original molestation arrest came from statements his Ex wife made to police. Now they are saying the kid is accusing him of raping her. > [@](#): > > The founder and owner of Red Jacket Firearms in Baton Rouge was arrested Tuesday evening and charged with the aggravated rape of a 12-year-old child, Casey Rayborn-Hicks, a spokesperson for the East Baton Rouge Sheriff’s Office said. > > The U.S. Marshal in East Baton Rouge Parish arrested William Hayden around 3 p.m. Tuesday. Hayden had a warrant out for his arrest and was apprehended in Livingston Parish as a fugitive from East Baton Rouge Parish. > > Hayden is the star of Discovery’s Channel reality TV show “Sons of Guns.” > > The alleged victim told deputies with the East Baton Rouge Sheriff’s Office that since March 2013, that Hayden had raped her almost daily, according to an affidavit of probable cause. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/2 "2014-08-27T16:31:03Z")
Saw that last week. I’d stopped watching the show a year or two back because the guy was such a colossal dick. Have not read enough (or cared enough) to dig into how real this is or how much is his ex-wife trying to ruin him. But such things are the Nuclear Weapons of our modern society, and even if he’s acquitted, he’s already damaged by it. If he’s guilty, then he deserves every bad thing headed his way. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/3 "2014-08-27T16:34:36Z")
I’ve seen complaints in the gun forums about Red Jacket back orders not getting filled. People had their deposits tied up and were pretty upset with the company. The reviews on Yelp say a lot about this company. It may have once been a good gun shop but their Reality Show ruined it. > **[Red Jacket Firearms - Baton Rouge, LA](https://www.yelp.com/biz/red-jacket-firearms-baton-rouge-3)** > > 38 reviews and 4 photos of RED JACKET FIREARMS - CLOSED "My Experience with trying to buy from Red Jacket Firearms. > > Last year I got interested in getting a Saiga 12 so I started to do some research. I went to the SHOT Show in January and talked the... Never a clue he’d do something this low to his own kid. Just one of many, many similar comments. > [@](#): > > \*\*update, 6/28/14…still no stock, and still no communication. I email them twice a month, every month asking for updates and they either don’t respond (hence the twice a month) or just send back lies and never answer the questions. Website has said the same BS for 4 months in a row, February must have been such a huge month for them that it’s taken 6 months to put out the purchases…I call BS, these guys just plain suck at customer service and communication. I have a distinct feeling that there product won’t be that great either…I mean how could it with such a terrible company! ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/4 "2014-08-27T16:38:32Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I’ve seen complaints in the gun forums about Red Jacket back orders not getting filled. People had their deposits tied up and were pretty upset with the company. I’m amazed anyone who had watched a single episode of the show would spend a penny there: “Hey boss! I need a precision gauge to measure & cut this match target barrel.” “You’ll do the job I pay to do with the tools I give you!” ISTR that he was already barred from having an FFL for some reason, and someone else in the shop had all the required licenses. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/5 "2014-08-27T16:44:07Z")
I think Vince Buckles held the FFL’s. It was always weird the way Will ordered him around, because I “think” Vince had a stake in Red Jacket. After he quit, I think Charlie Watson got the FFL’s and became a partner in Red Jacket. Will started treating him like crap too. I keep saying I’ll drop by Vince’s new shop. He’s a good gun smith and I need some work done on a Ruger 22 that jams quite a bit. My hometown is 20 miles from the Louisiana border. I go to Shreveport fairly often. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/6 "2014-08-27T16:50:40Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Maybe his adult daughter and his husband can run the shop. ‘Her’ husband strikes me as an even bigger idiot than Will. I too had read about a number of complaints piling up against the shop, missing permits for sales, etc. It’s over for RJ. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/7 "2014-08-27T16:53:16Z")
OK, had to repost this comment from the second article linked in the OP: > [@](#): > > Luckily there was a good guy with a gun to protect her… oh, wait, nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/8 "2014-08-27T16:58:15Z")
What’s an FFL? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/9 "2014-08-27T17:00:43Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > What’s an FFL? Federal Firearms License. What you need to be a firearms dealer in the USA. There are probably state licenses as well. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/10 "2014-08-27T17:02:18Z")
Federal Firearms License. Never seen the show. Maybe he will be convicted and they can start a new reality show about child molestors in prison. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/11 "2014-08-27T17:09:56Z")
… called **Sons Of Bitches**. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/12 "2014-08-27T17:58:37Z")
Will was stripped of his FFL after ATF audited Red Jacket and found some gun parts missing. Everything has to be accounted for. The receivers, barrels etc. Anything that can be assembled into a gun. This was before the reality show. Since then someone else has to hold the FFL’s in their name. I’m not sure, but don’t they have to own a stake in the company to get those FFL’s for Red Jacket? > [@muldoonthief](#): > > Federal Firearms License. What you need to be a firearms dealer in the USA. There are probably state licenses as well. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/13 "2014-08-27T18:10:19Z")
This was on the [AR-15 forum](http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1267812_Red_Jacket_lost_ffl_.html) since 2011. They are quoting Vince’s facebook post after he quit. Other news sources picked up the story about the ATF audit too. > [@](#): > > you messed up. in october of 2011, Will and Stephanie Hayden were forced to surrender their FFL due to missing firearms. we formed the company Red Jacket Firearms LLC in may of 2010 and received our new FFL on Nov first 2010. The LLC and license is a matter of public record. Joe, Charlie and myself were the only controlling members of the LLC with Will and Stephanie federally prohibited fro having a firearms deal or manufacture license of any kind. I was an owner in RJF until september 15 of this year when I chose to leave because I just wanted to move on. a big eff you to the whole business besides flemming…hes cool > Ok this was just posted on facebook from Vince to Steff someones seems butt hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/14 "2014-08-27T18:23:47Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Have not read enough (or cared enough) to dig into how real this is or how much is his ex-wife trying to ruin him. Nitpick, but she’s an ex-girlfriend not an ex-wife. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/15 "2014-08-27T19:36:08Z")
Red Jacket Firearms posted this on their web site and Facebook page. > [@](#): > > 8/26/2014 > > Red Jacket Firearms LLC. has initiated and received full legal separation as an entity, from William M. Hayden. > > With heavy hearts, we will be continuing to operate and ensure the fulfillment of new customer orders, back orders and to provide support to those affected by these new developments. WE are the Heart and Soul of Red Jacket and will remain steadfast in our committment to quality and our customers, for years to come. > > Additional questions can be directed to: [pr@redjacketfirearms.com](mailto:pr@redjacketfirearms.com) ---
**Author:** ![phreesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@phreesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phreesh)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/16 "2014-08-27T20:34:24Z")
You know, I’m not a fan of the show and, of course I abhor child molestation, but I hate how allegations can ruin someone’s life. We have no idea if there’s any case here and yet his show has been cancelled and his company has separated from him. For his sake, I hope he’s innocent and can find a way to move on. ---
**Author:** ![TheSeaOtter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ed655f/32.png) [@TheSeaOtter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSeaOtter)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/17 "2014-08-27T21:15:49Z")
I tolerated the first couple of seasons of this show, but Will’s constant mistreatment of basically everyone he had any authority over got to be too mcuh. At the time, I figured he was just a regular garden-variety jerk, and possibly playing it up for TV. Guess not. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/18 "2014-08-27T22:04:50Z")
> [@phreesh](#): > > You know, I’m not a fan of the show and, of course I abhor child molestation, but I hate how allegations can ruin someone’s life. We have no idea if there’s any case here and yet his show has been cancelled and his company has separated from him. > > For his sake, I hope he’s innocent and can find a way to move on. I’ll join you in that, **phreesh** , just on general principle (although, my hope has more to do with wanting it to be true that the little girl was not raped\*). That said, reality television is HORRIBLE, _sui generis_, and anything that makes any part of it go away cannot be said to be ALL bad. \*My feelings about her having made an accusation are somewhat more complicated. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2014, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/19 "2014-08-27T22:34:43Z")
> [@phreesh](#): > > You know, I’m not a fan of the show and, of course I abhor child molestation, but I hate how allegations can ruin someone’s life. We have no idea if there’s any case here and yet his show has been cancelled and his company has separated from him. > > For his sake, I hope he’s innocent and can find a way to move on. I’m also surprised they released the name of the victim/accuser who is under 18. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2014, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646/20 "2014-08-28T03:02:27Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > I’m also surprised they released the name of the victim/accuser who is under 18. If you’re referring to Casey Rayborn-Hicks (the name listed in the excerpt quoted in the OP), she’s the spokesperson for the sheriff’s office, not the alleged victim. Good example of a poorly written news story. 🙂 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sons-of-guns-star-will-hayden-charged-with-child-rape/696646.md?page=2)