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We aren’t talking copyright infringement, we are talking pirated software, two totally different animals.
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The only reason that software piracy gives rise to any legal claim is that it constitutes copyright infringement (and sometimes also breach of contract, if at least one copy was obtained legally).
[QUOTE=AngryIrishLass]
The article said that the Sony employee gave a product key, so maybe they didn’t know it was pirated? I’m not sticking up for Sony, but why in the world would you pirate software then call to have someone help you out from the company you had just pirated from? Though that will be their defense: we purchased it from vendor and did not know it was pirated.
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That´ll teach them not to get their software from www.Warez-R-Uz.com.ru
[QUOTE=Kythereia]
Today, my life is complete. long, happy sigh
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Truly. Next time I got to explain what schadenfreude means to someone, I’m going to use this little incident as an example.
[QUOTE=Rick]
I hope the French courts and the software company wrap a dildo with rusty barbed wire and shoves it up Sony’s ass screaming I’m Rick James, Bitch!
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I don’t do this often, but by God’s throbbing prostate, you win the thread.
[QUOTE=acsenray]
The only reason that software piracy gives rise to any legal claim is that it constitutes copyright infringement (and sometimes also breach of contract, if at least one copy was obtained legally).
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There might also be a violation of the EULA agreed to on installation. In any case, pirating music is exactly equivalent to pirating software.
As for Sony, their punishment should be the installation of malware on all their PCs.
I’m just going to add my lot to the pile and say, HA-ha! Karma’s a stainless steel, double-edged bitch, ain’t it? After all your proselytizing, lawsuits, dry-humping the RIAA 'til your sack glows, the nasty rootkits (TWICE!), and absolute and complete refusal to even consider ditching DRM like EMI and Universal have been experimenting with (to good success), this is the steel-toed, leather-clad sphincter horn your stank hypocritical ass deserves.
Now smile like a donut and take it like a man.
There is no karma here. Sony was right to go after people who infringed their copyrights. The French software firm is right to go after Sony for what Sony did. Both companies are acting perfectly within their rights.
There is no hypocrisy here, unless you can show that the Sony lawyers and officials who are trying to fight music piracy are the same people authorized the unlawful copying of the software in question here.
This is MPSIMS, right?
Thought so.
Now look here, ascenray - nobody asked you to come in here and ruin our fun by throwing out facts and logic and stuff. Who do you think you are?
Yeah, this is pretty weak, and I’m really disappointed with the glee people seem to be taking with it. Are you positive you don’t have pirated software on your PC? No un-registered copies of WinZip, or copies of Office you’re not entitled to? I’ve spent 20 years contracting, and despite the most rigorous inventory management systems out there, I’ve never been at a large company that didn’t have illegal copies of software of some description.
[QUOTE=acsenray]
There is no karma here. Sony was right to go after people who infringed their copyrights. The French software firm is right to go after Sony for what Sony did. Both companies are acting perfectly within their rights.
There is no hypocrisy here, unless you can show that the Sony lawyers and officials who are trying to fight music piracy are the same people authorized the unlawful copying of the software in question here.
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Actually, there is karma here. Sony claimed the “high moral ground” when they started filing the lawsuits, and screaming about how illegal downloading was going to destroy them. If Sony had been reasonable in the filing of their lawsuits (going after people making money off illegally shared files, not asking for unreasonable amounts in damages [not to mention actually paying the artists a portion of any damages awarded]) and realizing early on that the future of music storage lay in formats like MP3s and proactively embracing such changes, then this would not be karma.
Given, however, that Sony aggressively fucked over people, this is as much karma, as was Larry Craig getting caught in an airport bathroom.
[QUOTE=Cerowyn]
Yeah, this is pretty weak, and I’m really disappointed with the glee people seem to be taking with it. Are you positive you don’t have pirated software on your PC? No un-registered copies of WinZip, or copies of Office you’re not entitled to? I’ve spent 20 years contracting, and despite the most rigorous inventory management systems out there, I’ve never been at a large company that didn’t have illegal copies of software of some description.
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But did you or any of those companies you mention go around suing others for copying your/their stuff???
[QUOTE=Cerowyn]
Yeah, this is pretty weak, and I’m really disappointed with the glee people seem to be taking with it. Are you positive you don’t have pirated software on your PC? No un-registered copies of WinZip, or copies of Office you’re not entitled to? I’ve spent 20 years contracting, and despite the most rigorous inventory management systems out there, I’ve never been at a large company that didn’t have illegal copies of software of some description.
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Maybe I do, maybe I don’t. Doesn’t matter, I’m not out there suing people who might be stealing my work, and I’m not infecting the PCs of my paying customers with malware because I think it’ll keep them from stealing my stuff! Sony’s been doing all of that, that’s what makes this so sweet.
[QUOTE=Cerowyn]
Yeah, this is pretty weak, and I’m really disappointed with the glee people seem to be taking with it. Are you positive you don’t have pirated software on your PC? No un-registered copies of WinZip, or copies of Office you’re not entitled to? I’ve spent 20 years contracting, and despite the most rigorous inventory management systems out there, I’ve never been at a large company that didn’t have illegal copies of software of some description.
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Quite positive.
Anyway, I’m not suing people for stealing my lines, am I?
[QUOTE=Tuckerfan]
Karma, baby, karma!After all the crap they’ve said (and done) about how piracy was “ruining the industry,” it’s somehow satisfying to see them get nailed for being hypocritical bastids! 
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I’m getting this vision of Baltar in the original battlestar galactica series intoning with a small smile, “Burn Galactica, burn”
[QUOTE=Cerowyn]
Yeah, this is pretty weak, and I’m really disappointed with the glee people seem to be taking with it. Are you positive you don’t have pirated software on your PC? No un-registered copies of WinZip, or copies of Office you’re not entitled to? I’ve spent 20 years contracting, and despite the most rigorous inventory management systems out there, I’ve never been at a large company that didn’t have illegal copies of software of some description.
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Are you a betting person?