# Sopranos 4/30 "Johnny Cakes" (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 1, 2006, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900 "2006-05-01T01:57:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/21 "2006-05-01T13:35:34Z")
> [@Acqua Minerale](#): > > When Tony called Phil out for being an acting boss, isn’t Tony technically only the acting street boss? I suppose he might have moved up to acting boss (especially with Junior gone), but did he become the actual boss? Isn’t the actual boss in prison. I think his name is Dimeo. That is the name of the crime family right? Jackie was acting in his place and Jackie died. Then Junior became the acting boss. > > Has Junior been officially removed? Did the boss in prison die or was he removed? I think Phil is acting boss of the NY gang while Johnny Sac is incarcerated (which might be for the rest of his life. Tony is the acting boss of the NJ gang while Junior is sent up. But I might be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/22 "2006-05-01T13:37:46Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > Also, I wonder how much AJ was motivated by loyalty, and how much by simply wanting to prove himself. I’m wondering, whom did AJ ask, to find out where Junior’s being held? He, sure as hell, wouldn’t have known that offhand. ---
**Author:** ![yellowval](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/919ad9/32.png) [@yellowval](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowval)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/23 "2006-05-01T13:40:11Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Chase must have had a bad Blockbuster’s incident, although I’ve seen service that bad (at other stores, as I don’t go to BB). That whole scene struck me as a sort of “kids these days” scene. In fact, a lot in this episode did. Maybe it’s just me, though. Yeah, this one was kind of slow. Big Love was better. ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/24 "2006-05-01T13:57:05Z")
> [@Lochdale](#): > > Your comment just added that much more to that scene. I didn’t consider the unbuttoning what Carmela had buttoned just that they had both been working on his shirt. Glad to be of service. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TommyTutone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@TommyTutone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TommyTutone)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/25 "2006-05-01T14:09:33Z")
> [@Caricci](#): > > Now who thinks that phone call Vito made to his wife will be how they catch him? Me, for one. > > She’ll tell Phil about it, including the name that came up. Phil will track down that guy, Todd Whatever and Todd will, of course, explain the circumstances surrounding the loss of the phone. He might even be shown a picture of Vito, who, btw, really needs to find a better place to stay. And then, budda bing! good-bye Vito. You are not the only one. With only a few episodes left in the season, this will make sense, although I see it more of a phone call to the guy who tells Phil where he stayed, followed by a trip by his crew. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/26 "2006-05-01T14:11:23Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > **Rilchiam** , he would be called “my nephew” (if my own Sicilian-side of the family is any indication). A.J. is getting his dad’s panic attacks, and for what? He isn’t as spoiled as he would like? Well, he’s pretty stressed out. I mean. . .he brings it upon himself by wanting to be a big shot. But he has flunked out of school, has no plans, has this romantic view of the mob, a love of material things. Sure, a lot of people would trade their problems for his, but from his point of view, he’s got some reasons for it. I liked this episode more than last weeks. I thought going into this season it would be about AJ figuring out his place in the mob, so I like that story line. I like the Vito storyline too, so I wasn’t bored with that. Also, that “starbucks shakedown” scene was classic. Just perfect. Let’s not forget, there was some nice T&A in that episode. I’ve always wondered just how wide a belt can be before we’d call it a “skirt”. ---
**Author:** ![Survey1215](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Survey1215](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Survey1215)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/27 "2006-05-01T14:16:56Z")
I missed half of last night’s episode and all of the ep from two weeks ago (for whatever reason, this season hasn’t grabbed my attention as much as previous years) so maybe I’ve missed this - whatever happened w Carmela’s house-building deal? Last I saw the shoddy materials had shut down construction. Anything else happen since? Tony should have brought Juliana M home to see if Carm was up for a 3-way. Dummy. ---
**Author:** ![LateComer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5ac83/32.png) [@LateComer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LateComer)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/28 "2006-05-01T14:57:10Z")
> [@CapnPitt](#): > > Tony stopping with the real estate agent because of her unbuttoning what Carmela had buttoned was nice too I saw this as unbuttoning his shirt reminding him of his scar and his “After everything that woman’s done for me . . .” speech to Melfi. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/29 "2006-05-01T15:30:58Z")
> [@KSO](#): > > This has nothing to do with the substance of the episode, but I was irritated by the mere fact of Julianna Margolis being in the episode–she looked great and it was a good little sidebar, but all these freaking celebrities getting their cameos in before the show ends sucks. It was cool when Frank Sinatra, Jr., and David Lee Roth played in the executive game, but now the cameos are bugging me. Too many cameos bugs be as well, but Julianna wasn’t one. She was just playing a role as an actress, not playing herself (even though her character had the same first name, I don’t think the real Julianna is a Century 21 agent). Really no different than Buscemi playing Tony B. or Joey Pants playing Ralphie. Also, She’s supposed to be appearing in several more episodes, including possibly the finale. So it’s not a one-off guest appearance. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/30 "2006-05-01T16:09:51Z")
> [@TommyTutone](#): > > You are not the only one. With only a few episodes left in the season, this will make sense, although I see it more of a phone call to the guy who tells Phil where he stayed, followed by a trip by his crew. This struck me as the height of stupidity on Vito’s part. Of course the guy whose cell phone he stole is going to check to see if there were any calls made on it. From there, it’s just a phone call to the unfamiliar Jersey number on his bill and things start to unravel. ---
**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/31 "2006-05-01T17:13:45Z")
You know, even New Hampshire has the Wal-Mart. He could have gotten a Trac-phone. Dumb old Vito. ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/32 "2006-05-01T17:45:01Z")
Or used a payphone, like back in the day. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/33 "2006-05-01T18:02:14Z")
> [@Survey1215](#): > > I missed half of last night’s episode and all of the ep from two weeks ago (for whatever reason, this season hasn’t grabbed my attention as much as previous years) so maybe I’ve missed this - whatever happened w Carmela’s house-building deal? Last I saw the shoddy materials had shut down construction. Anything else happen since? Basically, construction has stayed shut down, and Carmela got into a big fight with her father about it, and they’re not talking. ---
**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/34 "2006-05-01T18:09:40Z")
Also, I hope we all noticed that the Johnny Cakes guy’s accent is not exactly local. The fact that he sounds like he came from Vito’s neck of the woods might be significant too. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/35 "2006-05-01T18:21:32Z")
And Vito also completely blew his cover. The hiding thing is going to start falling down around him soon. It could be misleading promos once again, but this time it really does look like something major is going down next week. And I sensed some dark clouds coming after Tony and Phil’s chat. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/36 "2006-05-01T19:48:04Z")
I don’t see what the problem was with casting Juliana Marguiles in a part. She’s a good actress. She has a character to play. Is every character supposed to be played by someone that not everyone recognizes at first? ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/37 "2006-05-01T22:22:36Z")
> [@McNew](#): > > Or used a payphone, like back in the day. A payphone would give away his location easily, requiring a long trip to hide his true location. We’ve only seen him walking around until he got the hog at the end of the show, perhaps his car is still “in the shop”. Type in an area code & the first three digits into Google and you’ll easily find what town a phone is located in. A cell phone stolen off a tourist hides his present location for a little while at least. But Mrs. Vito seems convinced of Phil’s good intentions so she’ll no doubt share the caller-id info next time he pays a visit. Phil can call the guy up posing as a cop investigating a cell phone theft ring and figure out exactly where the phone was lost… ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/38 "2006-05-01T22:29:35Z")
> [@LateComer](#): > > I saw this as unbuttoning his shirt reminding him of his scar and his “After everything that woman’s done for me . . .” speech to Melfi. Absolutely agree. Just on a more pragmatic level, she just ironed it AND buttoned it for him. She certainly does a lot for him, no question. That said, it’s a tribute to the writing that I STILL don’t like her. The character is so well developed and so well-acted that Carmela comes across as a real human being with good points about her as well as many, many flaws. ---
**Author:** ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/39 "2006-05-01T22:33:20Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > And \*\*Vito also completely blew \*\* his cover. The hiding thing is going to start falling down around him soon. > > It could be misleading promos once again, but this time it really does look like \*\*something major is going down \*\* next week. And I sensed some dark clouds coming after Tony and Phil’s chat. Two Vito double entendres in one post! Nice work. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2006, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900/40 "2006-05-01T22:42:21Z")
> [@CapnPitt](#): > > That said, it’s a tribute to the writing that I STILL don’t like her. The character is so well developed and so well-acted that Carmela comes across as a real human being with good points about her as well as many, many flaws. I don’t like her either. I liked her better when she was conflicted about Tony’s business, but even then, not much. Has she always spouted platitudes and cliches? Last night it was “We’ve been blessed”. :rolleyes: Could she be more trite? Seems like every ep this season she’s said something like that. It’s so obvious that they want A.J. out of the house, permanently. I don’t think they’d like him even if he did straighten up. They only talk to him when they’re mad at him. Geez, I’m starting to feel sorry for A.J. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sopranos-4-30-johnny-cakes-spoilers/354900.md?page=3)