# Sorority girl's warning letter to sisters goes viral - It's epic

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 19, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104 "2013-04-19T04:26:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/121 "2013-04-20T05:32:09Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> And as for who should recite it, A letter that over the top requires an orator equally over the top…
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> Harvey Fierstein in full grand dame costume.

Or Nathan Lane…

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/122 "2013-04-20T05:34:51Z")

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Wow. This girl has a way with words doesn’t she? We need her here on the SDMB. 😃

Well except for the racist stuff.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/123 "2013-04-20T06:17:15Z")

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I’m declaring myself the winner for this suggestion of whom should read Miss Congeniality’s screed: I nominate…

drum roll

Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II.

cue: “Pomp and Circumstance”

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/124 "2013-04-20T06:21:30Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> I’m declaring myself the winner for this suggestion of whom should read Miss Congeniality’s screed: I nominate…
> 
> drum roll
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> Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II.
> 
> cue: “Pomp and Circumstance”

For next Christmas?

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/125 "2013-04-20T07:53:51Z")

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Maybe. When is Her Royal Highness, The Duchess of Cambridge due? That could be an appropriate occasion too. Liz isn’t that much of a spring chicken anymore. I’d hate for her to put it off too long.

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/126 "2013-04-20T08:33:15Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> I could totally see M threatening to cunt-punt James Bond.

I would pay good money to see that.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/127 "2013-04-20T11:01:21Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Diane Rehm.
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> It would take her a while to get through it, but I think I might throw my back out from the laughing.
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> I’d also like to hear Alec Baldwin _as_ Jack Donaghy read this.

I just started laughing so hard I broke into a pretty heavy cough, at the mention of Diane Rehm reading that. Thank you!

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/128 "2013-04-20T12:13:17Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> Diane Rehm.

Brilliant!

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**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/129 "2013-04-20T12:14:45Z")

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> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#):
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> We are moderating off-topic drive-bys a little more diligently, [yes](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=688043).

Not to belabor this side discussion, but, I like that moderators would try to keep the topic off of sexual innuendo if the OP was not really about sex in the first place.

Really, the cited email is comedy gold on its own merits.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/130 "2013-04-20T14:19:26Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Are you kidding?
> 
> “Failed another job interview today, apparently taking part in an orgy isn’t enough proof that one can effectively work as part of a team.”
> 
> I love her!

Yeah, pretty sure she’s being “ironic” with her account after reading that one.

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**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/131 "2013-04-20T15:11:15Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Yeah, pretty sure she’s being “ironic” with her account after reading that one.

I am now convinced this is one big performance art piece and we have all been trolled by Sorority Girl.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/132 "2013-04-20T16:24:53Z")

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I think sorority girl wears a short skirt and a long jacket.

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**Author:** ![April\_R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@April\_R](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/April_R)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/133 "2013-04-20T17:04:07Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> I think sorority girl wears a short skirt and a long jacket.

She’s the girl from the Cake song??

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/134 "2013-04-20T17:06:21Z")

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> [@Napier](#):
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> Not to belabor this side discussion, but, I like that moderators would try to keep the topic off of sexual innuendo if the OP was not really about sex in the first place.\<snip\>

I don’t. It stinks too much of trying to direct the discussion beyond the limits of what is useful for a message board.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/135 "2013-04-20T19:25:07Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Lest you think she thought of it herself, be aware that this is not a new term by any stretch. I’m guessing at least 10 years old.

Which is probably not much below the age at which somebody would believe it’s a swell term to throw around at other people. Though it does have a certain elemental percussive musicality to it.

Though it’s fascinating to see college females have progressed to the point of feeling free to hyperbolically threaten physical violence against their compatriots who they consider to be slacking off, geez, lady, it’s a sorority house organizing parties, it’s not the 1st Marines breaking out of Chosin.

> [@astro](#):
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> Well there’s another subtext and that is if you expect to be successful professionals in your adult life and profession you need to be on point with your message and image. People behaving like a herd of stray cats when the organization is trying to focus on achieving some PR goal makes everyone look bad.
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> If you don’t want to be in a sorority that’s fine but part of the package is agreeing to the group goals set by the leadership. Doing what you want and what’s most fun is not always going to align with the larger goals of the organization. If that’s not something these young women can “get” would you really want them representing your company or organization?
> 
> “No one’s the boss of me” works until you actually have a boss.
> 
> The email is over the top but the point of working cooperatively and not embarrassing the chapter with poor or self indulgent behavior is a life lesson anyone who is going to work effectively in a group has to learn.

> [@HipGnosis](#):
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> But…  
> She correctly executed the 6 habits effective writers!!  
> University of Maryland Delta Gamma Sorority Email: A Lesson in Good Writing  
> [University of Maryland Delta Gamma Sorority Email: A Lesson in Good Writing](http://www.richmond.com/city-life/article_44ab3812-a915-11e2-b187-0019bb30f31a.html)

Sad thing is, there WILL be people who WILL say that _those alone_ are THE important lessons to be gleaned from this, and that though uncalled-for bullying will make the entire Internet mock you, it’s worth it if you show what an Organization (Wo/M)an you are.

Your team is not on the game plan and doesn’t care? Tell them. _“Ladies, you obviously think the purpose of this organization is different than what it actually is; I’ll say it only once, fly right or reconsider your participation. Don’t like it? Leave, now.”_ No need to cuntpunt anyone.

Thing is, today’s college women and men know that after they leave college, they will go into a world where the employer expects tireless commitment FROM them but feels no loyalty TO them and considers \*them \*fungible. So they go into it already asking the Joker’s question. Answer it as if you were answering adults and if they don’t get it show them the door and work with those who do.

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> But do you think she actually motivated anyone with that email?
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> I don’t know if this woman was supposed to be responsible for the activities she described or if she was just one of the crowd. But she came across as somebody who had no control of the situation and nobody’s going to follow somebody like that.
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> If you want to fix things, you work on fixing them. You don’t just scream about how mad you are that they’re broken.

When someone in charge begins to rant and rave and hurl over-the-top abuse at the team and loudly reiterate to them with threats what their place/duty is, it’s often (though not always) a sign of a failure to exercise leadership from the start and that they’re not quite in control.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/136 "2013-04-20T19:37:47Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> I think sorority girl wears a short skirt and a long jacket.

[Well… you got the skirt part right.](http://totalfratmove.com/the-delta-gamma-cunt-punt-chick-and-the-male-response/comment-page-3/) The non-anonymized pic is purportedly her.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/137 "2013-04-20T19:40:45Z")

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As for voices/characters reading that scree, I am going to go oldschool and outa the box here. The character Ester, Fred Sanford’s sister in law and archnemisis. Her saying such things while swinging a bible and a purse would just have an extra something something to them IMO.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/138 "2013-04-20T19:42:52Z")

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I would like to nominate Stephanie Hodge to read the piece, based on her delivery of the phrase "Fuck her! It’s your turn now!’ at the 4:19 mark[in this video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX2ZpguvEdo). Video imagery is completely safe for work … it’s standup comedy … but language is totally NSFW. And totally hilarious. Start at the 4 minute mark, it’s her “Jungle Love” routine. Had me in stitches.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/139 "2013-04-20T20:05:32Z")

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If its true that part of the legitimate function of a sorority is to inculcate the disciplines of putting on a false front and catering to clients in a manner with a significant subtext of sexuality and submission in the context of college social and recreational events then sororities are even more vile than I thought they were.

Can you even imagine a frat boy being berated in this or in any other manner for going to such a party and spending too much time talking to their own friends or for mentioning socializing with other people or any of these transgressions?

To the extent that this sorority is inculcating professional standard, the profession in question is unambiguously the one commonly known as the “oldest.”

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2013, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorority-girls-warning-letter-to-sisters-goes-viral-its-epic/656104/140 "2013-04-20T20:09:22Z")

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As Less Nessman would say in glee “ohhhhh, a farmer?!”

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