# Sorry ladies, you can't hang with the SEALS **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 18, 2013, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250 "2013-06-18T04:32:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/21 "2013-06-18T05:49:23Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > You might be astonished at the kind of women in the top one percent. There are some amazons out there, women who could pick you up and twist you in half. If they can pass the training course, why the hell not point them at the enemy? Believe me sir, I know some amazons out there, and they could kick ass. unfortunately, I still hang out with em… ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/22 "2013-06-18T05:52:12Z")
> [@Klaatu](#): > > … unfortunately, I still hang out with em… For you or them? ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/23 "2013-06-18T05:52:25Z")
Ok i am done for the night.Can a woman pass buds as it is right now? simple question ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/24 "2013-06-18T05:55:12Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > So what triggered this? Alcohol and a bar debate I’m guessing, they like the OP often start with no link, context or reason. ---
**Author:** ![panaccione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@panaccione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panaccione)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/25 "2013-06-18T05:55:28Z")
So far your arguments have amounted to “shit, yeah right” and “get real” and, of course, a simple declaration that they cannot do it. With no solid facts or evidence to back it up, why should we believe you? ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/26 "2013-06-18T05:59:39Z")
I am asking, who thinks a woman can pass the first basic SEAL course, I dont think they can read the thread you drunk dumbass ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/27 "2013-06-18T06:02:16Z")
> [@panaccione](#): > > So far your arguments have amounted to “shit, yeah right” and “get real” and, of course, a simple declaration that they cannot do it. With no solid facts or evidence to back it up, why should we believe you? So far your contributions have amounted to “I am an idiot with nothing to contribute but I will post and hope I am noticed” ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Why\_Bother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@Doctor\_Why\_Bother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Why_Bother)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/28 "2013-06-18T06:03:02Z")
> [@Klaatu](#): > > Ok i am done for the night.Can a woman pass buds as it is right now? simple question I don’t know. Maybe. Since you don’t know _all_ the women out there, that should be your answer as well. Now, question for you: If a woman CAN pass b.u.d.s. why shouldn’t she be allowed to join the SEALS? ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/29 "2013-06-18T06:07:13Z")
> [@Doctor\_Why\_Bother](#): > > I don’t know. Maybe. Since you don’t know _all_ the women out there, that should be your answer as well. > > Now, question for you: If a woman CAN pass b.u.d.s. why shouldn’t she be allowed to join the SEALS? If you read back through the thread i said I had no prob with that. But do you want buds standarsd to change to allow women ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/30 "2013-06-18T06:07:17Z")
> [@Klaatu](#): > > Cool. I will start a thread on who are the most efficient assassins, men or women… Start with [Kipling](http://www.potw.org/archive/potw96.html). ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/31 "2013-06-18T06:08:26Z")
talk to me doc ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/32 "2013-06-18T06:09:29Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Start with [Kipling](http://www.potw.org/archive/potw96.html). nice.lol ---
**Author:** ![panaccione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@panaccione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panaccione)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/33 "2013-06-18T06:11:01Z")
> [@Klaatu](#): > > So far your contributions have amounted to “I am an idiot with nothing to contribute but I will post and hope I am noticed” The onus is on you to “contribute.” Doubt you’re capable of that, idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/34 "2013-06-18T06:20:00Z")
I started the thread dumbass. You are contributing. You are taking time out of your life to post and call me an idiot. Therefor I win. You are sitting in front of your computer giving me shit when you could be doing something else. All your base belong to me, lol dumbass. I controlled your life for a while. Moron! have a good weekend! Go outside, get away from the computer, get laid whatever, you got burned bitch…smootchies… ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/35 "2013-06-18T06:47:57Z")
Good conversation you all except when panaccione wanted to shit. But its the Pit, morons are allowed. Might pick it back up after the weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/36 "2013-06-18T06:49:07Z")
> [@Klaatu](#): > > I started the thread dumbass. You are contributing. You are taking time out of your life to post and call me an idiot. Therefor I win. You are sitting in front of your computer giving me shit when you could be doing something else. All your base belong to me, lol dumbass. I controlled your life for a while. Moron! have a good weekend! Go outside, get away from the computer, get laid whatever, you got burned bitch…smootchies… [Look at him go!](http://dlisted.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/leowolfofwallstreetdancing.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/37 "2013-06-18T06:49:22Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Navy SEALs’ combat roles (as distinct from, say, Army Rangers’ combat roles) are mostly limited to aiming and pulling triggers, which requires much hand-eye coordination but not much muscular strength, and women can do it as well as men at the very least. If you take a quick glance at Wikipedia you can see that the Seals do a bit more than just aim and pull triggers. Their training program is very rigorous and has something like a 90% drop out rate. And once their training is complete the go on missions that sometimes require a great deal of endurance. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Why\_Bother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@Doctor\_Why\_Bother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Why_Bother)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/38 "2013-06-18T06:57:02Z")
> [@Klaatu](#): > > If you read back through the thread i said I had no prob with that. But do you want buds standarsd to change to allow women No, but neither does anybody else. I really don’t see what you have a problem with here. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/39 "2013-06-18T07:01:07Z")
I just don’t understand how bigots last this long on this board. I mean, I have to think that the guy is drunk, but you’d still think his position that women should not be allowed to compete with men for the same jobs would have come out at some point in the past. Note that statement: compete. There’s no guarantee that they will get the jobs. They just are no longer forced not to be able to try for sexist reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250/40 "2013-06-18T07:39:19Z")
> [@Klaatu](#): > > Maybe one out of a hundred of you could make it through, but WTF? So, if 1 out of 100\* can make it AND they end up not lowering the standards, what skin is it off your ass? Wait until standards are actually lowered if they are, _then_ bitch. You’ll have a more coherent, meaty argument and you’ll probably get a fair bit of agreement. As it stands your op comes more than a little close “they shouldn’t even try” and really, who should give a rat’s ass if they try or not? - Actually I wouldn’t be surprised if the number were even lower than that, but given human variation I wouldn’t be shocked if some extraordinary women could pass current standards. And if someone can and they want to do it, I see no reason to bar them from the opportunity. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-ladies-you-cant-hang-with-the-seals/661250.md?page=3)