# Sorry. That episode simply never happened, and you'll not convince me otherwise. (spoilers likely) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 22, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995 "2010-01-22T15:45:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/101 "2010-01-27T23:26:02Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Yes, and the constellations shown were, in fact, our real-Earth constellations, and therefore Nuked-Earth was real-Earth. > I’m not sure how one would be able to establish this from the episodes. Just because we never saw the moon doesn’t mean it wasn’t there. And certainly, it had geographic features like broad beaches that one wouldn’t expect on a moonless world. Ron Moore has explicitly said that the Cylon colony is not the planet you’re looking for, and that its moon(s) and continents were not shown to create ambiguity. ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/102 "2010-01-28T02:05:05Z")
**Spectre of the Gun** had it’s dragging moments, for certain, but it was still one of the better season 3 episodes, and, it has one of the best Scotty jokes: _Scotty throws back a shot_ Scotty: “It’s to kill the pain.” Spock: _looking at his knockout gas_ “But this is painless.” Scotty: Well, you should have warned me sooner! . Plus, Spock getting _thisclose_ to McCoy during the mindmeld makes me happy in my pants. ---
**Author:** ![In\_Winnipeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a8b319/32.png) [@In\_Winnipeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/In_Winnipeg)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/103 "2010-01-28T04:59:59Z")
And what the hell is this with \*Ghost Whisperer \*suddenly jumping forward 5 years in time???!? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/104 "2010-01-28T05:10:46Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Sorry… I’m sorry, as my experience here suggests that your thread is probably interesting, but I’m originally from Minnesota and know that any sentence that begins with “Sorry…” should be followed by a totally bitchy, but politely passive-aggressive, skewering of someone else’s entire belief system (you think you Southerners invented it?). Most of these entries are, at best, mildly disapproving. ---
**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/105 "2010-01-28T12:37:53Z")
Regarding the appearance of Orion in Galactica, I don’t get why everyone is giving this so much importance. The constellation showed up for a few seconds and it wasn’t even Galactica that was shown near it, it was the Cylon rebels. Given that the whole constellation from the Temple on Kobol thing is never really picked up again directly in the plot I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say “No, the nuked Earth they arrived at had to be our Earth because there was a shot of Orion in a previous scene”. Yeah, so? For all we know the CGI generators decided to throw it in for shits and giggles. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/106 "2010-01-28T13:11:54Z")
It is a pity that the original show **The Prisoner** only had 16 episodes, they were all so good. One more couldn’t have hurt could it? Shame really. Be seeing you. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/107 "2010-01-28T13:41:20Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Space hippies! Thank you oh so very much. I need a neuralyzer right about now. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/108 "2010-01-28T15:17:18Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I’m sorry, as my experience here suggests that your thread is probably interesting, but I’m originally from Minnesota and know that any sentence that begins with “Sorry…” should be followed by a totally bitchy, but politely passive-aggressive, skewering of someone else’s entire belief system (you think you Southerners invented it?). Most of these entries are, at best, mildly disapproving. I have reports to read, so you’ll have to unleash the bees on yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/109 "2010-01-28T15:19:59Z")
> [@Illuminatiprimus](#): > > Regarding the appearance of Orion in Galactica, I don’t get why everyone is giving this so much importance. The constellation showed up for a few seconds and it wasn’t even Galactica that was shown near it, it was the Cylon rebels. Given that the whole constellation from the Temple on Kobol thing is never really picked up again directly in the plot I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say “No, the nuked Earth they arrived at had to be our Earth because there was a shot of Orion in a previous scene”. Yeah, so? For all we know the CGI generators decided to throw it in for shits and giggles. Huh? It was shown in multiple episodes. The camera panned to it, and Starbuck’s “woo-woo” theme music picked up when they showed it. “Coincidence” isn’t a valid argument here. ---
**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/110 "2010-01-28T15:33:57Z")
If it was that important how did I completely manage to miss it then? And how come no-one in the show actually said “That constellation - it’s significant” or something like that? If the show thought that Orion was important it did a very bad job of conveying that to the audience. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/111 "2010-01-28T16:11:52Z")
> [@Illuminatiprimus](#): > > If it was that important how did I completely manage to miss it then? And how come no-one in the show actually said “That constellation - it’s significant” or something like that? > > If the show thought that Orion was important it did a very bad job of conveying that to the audience. It wasn’t important to them, it was a hint for us. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/112 "2010-01-28T17:17:34Z")
I was never that much of a Wesley-hater so for ST: TNG I’m going with _Genesis_. Troi turning into a frog-person, Riker a caveman, Picard a lemur and a strange proto-Worf were all bad enough, but Beverly Crusher acts completely brain-damaged for the entire episode (“Those look like venom glands - let me put my face right next to your mouth to look at them. Aagh!”) and laughs off her little “oops, I created a plague that infected the whole crew” mistake at the end even though a couple of crew members actually **died** (killed by the Worf-thing). Ha ha! What larks! Also, while I try not to worry too much about ST science-y stuff, I am very sure that cats did not evolve from iguanas. Really they didn’t. Even Ed Wood would have balked at that. ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/113 "2010-01-28T17:59:46Z")
Sometimes when people ask me how I’m doing I respond with: I believe I’m coming down with **Barclay’s Protomorphosis Syndrome**.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Winston\_Bongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@Winston\_Bongo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Bongo)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/114 "2010-01-28T18:10:45Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I was never that much of a Wesley-hater so for ST: TNG I’m going with _Genesis_. Troi turning into a frog-person, Riker a caveman, Picard a lemur and a strange proto-Worf were all bad enough, but Beverly Crusher acts completely brain-damaged for the entire episode (“Those look like venom glands - let me put my face right next to your mouth to look at them. Aagh!”) and laughs off her little “oops, I created a plague that infected the whole crew” mistake at the end even though a couple of crew members actually **died** (killed by the Worf-thing). Ha ha! What larks! > > Also, while I try not to worry too much about ST science-y stuff, I am very sure that cats did not evolve from iguanas. Really they didn’t. Even Ed Wood would have balked at that. Don’t forget the best part, where Barclay devolves into a _spider_! And spins webs all over the engine room! Where, exactly, are spiders in the human evolutionary tree? ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/115 "2010-01-29T00:01:18Z")
> [@Winston\_Bongo](#): > > Don’t forget the best part, where Barclay devolves into a _spider_! And spins webs all over the engine room! Where, exactly, are spiders in the human evolutionary tree? Well, son, when a man and a drider love each other very, very much… ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/116 "2010-01-29T00:28:49Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I was never that much of a Wesley-hater so for ST: TNG I’m going with _Genesis_. Troi turning into a frog-person, Riker a caveman, Picard a lemur and a strange proto-Worf were all bad enough, but Beverly Crusher acts completely brain-damaged for the entire episode (“Those look like venom glands - let me put my face right next to your mouth to look at them. Aagh!”) and laughs off her little “oops, I created a plague that infected the whole crew” mistake at the end even though a couple of crew members actually **died** (killed by the Worf-thing). Ha ha! What larks! > > Also, while I try not to worry too much about ST science-y stuff, I am very sure that cats did not evolve from iguanas. Really they didn’t. Even Ed Wood would have balked at that. I feel obliged to point out that this episode shows Marina Sirtis in a bathtub. It is thus rescued from absolute catastrophe, though it remains far less than mediocre. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/117 "2010-01-29T03:18:18Z")
> [@Lethal\_Babydoll](#): > > _The Hungry and the Hunted_ episode of **Sports Night**. > > Jeremy turned out to be such a wonderful character, but it took me a long time to not want to gag when he was on the screen after the way he was portrayed it that episode, which was the 3rd in the series. > > I almost stopped watching the show that early. Glad I stuck with it. That was a neat, mostly forgotten series I’m gonna have to disagree on this one. As a die-hard Sports Night fan this was the basis for Jeremy’s entire character. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/118 "2010-01-29T03:26:43Z")
Missed the edit window… Speaking of Sports Night There wasn’t a laugh track. ---
**Author:** ![postcards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@postcards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/postcards)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/119 "2010-01-29T05:29:25Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Missed the edit window… > > Speaking of Sports Night > > There wasn’t a laugh track. There was a very subtle one in the [first episode](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKaO-hsb3vM) (go to 3:40). I think it was on a few more after that, but I’m not about to go through them all to check. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2010, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995/120 "2010-01-29T15:47:20Z")
> [@postcards](#): > > There was a very subtle one in the [first episode](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKaO-hsb3vM) (go to 3:40). > > I think it was on a few more after that, but I’m not about to go through them all to check. No…there…_wasn’t_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sorry-that-episode-simply-never-happened-and-youll-not-convince-me-otherwise-spoilers-likely/525995.md?page=7)