# Sould we adopt my system of government for America? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 12, 2003, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760 "2003-11-12T04:19:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/21 "2003-11-12T14:57:25Z")
I love [Philosopher Kings](http://www.philosopherkings.com/music.html), bring on the tyranny. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![hansel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6bbea6/32.png) [@hansel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hansel)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/22 "2003-11-12T15:04:01Z")
It’s like the OP read Ayn Rand, and completely missed the point. ---
**Author:** ![hansel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6bbea6/32.png) [@hansel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hansel)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/23 "2003-11-12T15:05:17Z")
How exactly is it “true freedom” when the only freedom you have is to pursue state approved activities whose sole purpose is the benefit of others? That’s the thickest piece of Orwellian doublespeak I’ve seen in a long time, and that’s after paying attention to the Bush administration for the last four years. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/24 "2003-11-12T15:05:47Z")
> [@](#): > > Ewiser wrote: > What I would really like to know is: > > 1. How John Mace came up with 15.7% increase to GDP? I too the sum of the number of attributes of the new gov’t, multiplied by 2, then added 1.7 ---
**Author:** ![hansel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6bbea6/32.png) [@hansel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hansel)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/25 "2003-11-12T15:06:28Z")
[for the year before Bush was elected, I was imagining a lot of things]. ---
**Author:** ![Dogface](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@Dogface](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogface)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/26 "2003-11-12T15:08:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by hansel \* > How exactly is it “true freedom” when the only freedom you have is to pursue state approved activities whose sole purpose is the benefit of others? It’s not far off from ideas of “true freedom” I saw bandied about among many in college who considered themselves to be far more “enlightened” and “liberal” than was I. ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/27 "2003-11-12T15:10:36Z")
Nothing like a good laugh to start the day. I think this is supposed to be an overall parody of some of the stranger ideas that we see on this board, but I’m not sure. And yep, it’s like everybody who believes in reincarnation used to be Cleopatra, not the farmer serf in the countryside. Where do you see yourself in this hierarchy, **Hydrocortisone?** ---
**Author:** ![the\_first\_supraliminal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f475e1/32.png) [@the\_first\_supraliminal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_first_supraliminal)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/28 "2003-11-12T17:16:21Z")
This sounds like an old movie. Logan’s Run? ---
**Author:** ![hansel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6bbea6/32.png) [@hansel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hansel)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/29 "2003-11-12T17:27:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dogface \* > \*\*It’s not far off from ideas of “true freedom” I saw bandied about among many in college who considered themselves to be far more “enlightened” and “liberal” than was I. \*\* Even when it’s totally off-topic, you never pass up a chance for an undeserved slap at liberals, do you, **dogface**? ---
**Author:** ![\_possum\_stalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/b77776/32.png) [@\_possum\_stalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_possum_stalker)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/30 "2003-11-12T17:28:38Z")
1. Entertainment as we know it will be replaced by blowing up people over thirty in unused roller rinks. **Hydro** : you might be insane. See a physician. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/31 "2003-11-12T18:11:30Z")
I don’t see the problem at all…sounds like a reasonable plan to me. Just make sure I’m on the politburo or whatever they call the ruling counsel, that I have a nice summer home in the mountains, and a winter home by the sea (10,000 sq. ft plus servants please), and that my family is exempt due to the sacrifices I have to make to rule the proles. Dancing girls to peal me grapes is optional but would be a big bonus. I remember these kinds of discussions with the local tyrant advocating wanabe in college at 1am…but we were mostly drunk or stoned so that would excuse them a bit, I suppose. My guess is that Hydrocortisone isn’t serious about this OP, as its just TOO over the top for any sane person. If you ARE serious Hydrocortisone, up the voltage on your shock treatments or seek serious help. 🙂 -XT ---
**Author:** ![Hydrocortisone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19b73/32.png) [@Hydrocortisone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hydrocortisone)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/32 "2003-11-12T19:50:31Z")
> [@](#): > > I am sure that you have imagined yourself living at the “top” of this new society, but as you think about my responses try to imagine living at the bottom of it. There is no top or bottom, everyone is equal. I will repsond to your other points later. ---
**Author:** ![Ewiser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Ewiser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ewiser)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/33 "2003-11-12T19:57:05Z")
Looking forward to it. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/34 "2003-11-12T20:04:03Z")
…with baited breath. I can hardly wait. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/35 "2003-11-12T20:09:00Z")
Move to Sweden. d & r ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/36 "2003-11-12T20:16:49Z")
What are you baiting your breath with? Shad, minnows, squid…? ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/37 "2003-11-12T20:22:34Z")
From Neurotik > [@](#): > > What are you baiting your breath with? Shad, minnows, squid…? For this thread? I’m leaving a trail of Clozaril on the floor like a trail of bread crumbs in the hopes of drawing him out. Maybe they will bring him out of the shadows with some further comments. 🙂 -XT ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/38 "2003-11-12T22:02:49Z")
They already tried your idea, **Hydrocortisone** …in [Cambodia](http://www.time.com/time/daily/polpot/1.html), 1975-1978. It didn’t work out so well. ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/39 "2003-11-12T22:26:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hydrocortisone \* > 7. Entertainment as we know it will no longer exist. Would we still have _Home Improvement_ on TV? That’s not entertainment. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760/40 "2003-11-12T22:29:50Z")
Perhaps this is an outline for a novel or a new screenplay being written by **Hydrocortisone**. We are the unwitting editors finding flaws in the arguments before s/he actually gets down to writing the first draft. I want a cut of the action before I submit my opinion. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sould-we-adopt-my-system-of-government-for-america/212760.md?page=3)