# "Sound of Freedom" - anyone seen this movie, and if so, what did you think? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [July 20, 2023, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278 "2023-07-20T01:41:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/21 "2023-07-27T17:33:10Z")
The Qanon bullshit would be hilarious if there weren’t a scary number of people who believe it. It’s a rabbit hole everyone should go down just to see what we are up against. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/22 "2023-07-27T17:41:20Z")
Is this the same conspiracy as the “Wayfair baby deliveries” and the “pizza kitchen basement”? Oy. Meanwhile, every god-fearing republican that uses a prostitute is supporting human trafficking, but in their minds they’re not part of the problem, nope nope. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/23 "2023-07-27T18:27:48Z")
> [@Mallard](#): > > Like another poster stated if it’s not factual it at least gets you thinking. You’re not the only one who said it “gets you thinking.” So a question for anyone who feels that - thinking about _what_? I assume it isn’t thoughts like “hmmm, maybe child trafficking is bad” because hopefully no one needs a movie for that. What new insights did you get from the movie? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/24 "2023-07-27T23:13:08Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > That troubles me, if only because _Person of Interest_ may be my favorite TV show of all time. Oh well - at least I’ve never heard anything bad about Michael Emerson. I believe Jim Caviziel has sad something about Democrats drinking babies blood. And that Trump was specifically chosen by The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit. ---
**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/25 "2023-07-28T00:15:05Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > > [@Mallard](#): > > > > Like another poster stated if it’s not factual it at least gets you thinking. > > You’re not the only one who said it “gets you thinking.” So a question for anyone who feels that - thinking about _what_? I assume it isn’t thoughts like “hmmm, maybe child trafficking is bad” because hopefully no one needs a movie for that. > > What new insights did you get from the movie? Thinking about the issue. Many just think “human trafficking is awful” without much more. This movie put faces (albeit actors) to the issue and to just how potentially easy it can be to steal and enslave our children. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/26 "2023-07-28T01:02:27Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I believe Jim Caviziel has sad something about Democrats drinking babies blood. Do have to give him credit for not just reviving the boring old Blood Libel and bringing it in to the 21st century. Not that I’m not entirely certain that if you got him/them drunk we’d discover it was really just _The Jews_ after all. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/27 "2023-07-28T01:04:18Z")
I hadn’t heard of it until a friend- who went to movies when I coerced her, but now, not so much- raved about it. Sounded compelling and I looked forward to seeing it. Then she told me her son(far right, gun collecting, failed military, dumb as a donut)took her to see it. Instinctively noped the hell out. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/28 "2023-07-28T16:28:05Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > > [@Loach](#): > > > > I also know it’s not a worldwide conspiracy by Hilary Clinton and Bill Gates (and the Jews natch) in order for them to suck the adrenochrome out of babies. > > Is _that_ what the film is about? Sheesh! Double-pass here. I won’t support that agenda. I read the story synopsis on IMDB. It doesn’t get into any references to adrenochrome. Instead, it’s about a guy who rescues a young boy, only to be told by the boy about his sister, leading the guy to go on a crusade to rescue her, too. The guy is Tim Ballard, a real person who claims this is all true, except a lot of it isn’t, or is exaggerated. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/29 "2023-07-28T19:57:07Z")
It’s sort of like Scientology. You go to talk to some Scientologists and they’ll seem very reasonable and never mention Xenu and interstellar DC-8s and volcanic nuclear bombs creating alien ghosts that are the source of all our problems. All that’s in there, but that’s not what they lead with. Same with this movie and jewish billionaires sucking adrenochrome from children. They’re not going to start you on the crazy, but there’s a direct line from the reasonable story they tell and the batshit insane one under the surface. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/30 "2023-07-28T20:15:11Z")
> [@Mallard](#): > > Thinking about the issue. Many just think “human trafficking is awful” without much more. This movie put faces (albeit actors) to the issue and to just how potentially easy it can be to steal and enslave our children. The movie painted a horribly misleading profile of child trafficking. > **[Why Anti-Trafficking Experts Are Torching 'Sound of Freedom'](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/sound-of-freedom-child-trafficking-experts-1234786352/)** > > The new movie offers a "false perception" of child trafficking that experts worry could further harm the real victims. > [@](#): > > Another unintended consequence of sensationalist anti-trafficking narratives is that they can obscure juries’ perception of what trafficking looks like when these cases are actually brought to court. “When you have a case of really subtle coercion that’s hard to prove, and the jury is expecting Taken, you’re not gonna get a conviction… and it makes that much harder for survivors,” says Albright. > [@](#): > > As the post notes, child trafficking is a very real and extremely serious problem, in part because it is so difficult to track. Reliable statistics are hard to come by due to the underreported nature of the phenomenon, but the U.S. State Department has [reported](https://www.ncjrs.gov/ovc_archives/ncvrw/2005/pg5l.html) that 600,000 to 800,000 people are trafficked across international borders per year, with about 50 percent of these cases being children. Yet from the movie’s opening montage, which shows surveillance footage of children being snatched by strangers off the streets, _Sound of Freedom_ offers a “false perception” of how the majority of child trafficking actually takes place, according to Albright. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/31 "2023-07-28T20:17:01Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > > [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > > > > [@Loach](#): > > > > > > I also know it’s not a worldwide conspiracy by Hilary Clinton and Bill Gates (and the Jews natch) in order for them to suck the adrenochrome out of babies. > > > > Is _that_ what the film is about? Sheesh! Double-pass here. I won’t support that agenda. > > I read the story synopsis on IMDB. It doesn’t get into any references to adrenochrome. > > Instead, it’s about a guy who rescues a young boy, only to be told by the boy about his sister, leading the guy to go on a crusade to rescue her, too. > > The guy is Tim Ballard, a real person who claims this is all true, except a lot of it isn’t, or is exaggerated. Except Ballard is also a Quidiot > [@Mr.E](#): > > It’s sort of like Scientology. You go to talk to some Scientologists and they’ll seem very reasonable and never mention Xenu and interstellar DC-8s and volcanic nuclear bombs creating alien ghosts that are the source of all our problems. All that’s in there, but that’s not what they lead with. > > Same with this movie and jewish billionaires sucking adrenochrome from children. They’re not going to start you on the crazy, but there’s a direct line from the reasonable story they tell and the batshit insane one under the surface. Thank you. The analogy between Scientology and Q is apt. They both have defenses to fall back on. If you start to talk about Scientology’s more culty behavior (or where in the world is Shelly Miscavige) they hit you with religious persecution. If you dare to question the Q narrative you are either a pedophile or support them. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/32 "2023-07-28T22:06:05Z")
Mormons do the same thing. “First milk, then meat”, which means they start out with all the Jesus stuff, and only later on do they talk about celestial marriage (which opposes the Bible), baptism of the dead, etc. That doesn’t include the fact that black people were excluded from the priesthood until the late 1970s, and that was changed only so they could proselytize in equatorial countries. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/33 "2023-07-28T22:23:46Z")
Yeah, long story short when folks say “Qanon is a cult” there is no hyperbole there. “Sound of Freedom” is designed to be the reasonable thing that gets you bought into the idea of child trafficking before you get led down the conspiracy tunnel to good old fashioned blood libel. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/34 "2023-07-28T22:26:56Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > All I know about it comes from Rebecca Watson’s video: That’s very helpful. Thanks for posting it. I knew that there’s something about this film that just makes the hair on my neck stand up. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/35 "2023-07-28T22:36:58Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Is _that_ what the film is about? Sheesh! Double-pass here. I won’t support that agenda. > > I guess that means I’m “part of the conspiracy”. Oh well. You probably suck the adrenochrome from babies too and don’t even realize it. For shame. 🤠 ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/36 "2023-07-28T22:39:41Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I believe Jim Caviziel has sad something about Democrats drinking babies blood. And that Trump was specifically chosen by The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit. Well if Mel Gibson Jesus says it…. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/37 "2023-07-28T23:42:21Z")
Does this movie make any direct Qanon references? ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/38 "2023-07-29T03:32:18Z")
So, in short, it can be summed up this way: It’s not a documentary, or even a biopic, folks. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/39 "2023-07-29T03:42:53Z")
In short it’s propaganda being used to make you think that the conspiracy nuts are the good guys. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278/40 "2023-08-04T18:47:44Z")
And some of the folks who funded it are allegedly not good people. ['Sound of Freedom' Funder Fabian Marta Arrested For Child Kidnapping](https://www.newsweek.com/sound-freedom-funder-fabian-marta-arrest-child-kidnapping-1817498) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sound-of-freedom-anyone-seen-this-movie-and-if-so-what-did-you-think/987278.md?page=3)