# Sounds of Silence

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sounds-of-silence/1008888>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 16, 2024, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sounds-of-silence/1008888 "2024-10-16T22:33:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sounds-of-silence/1008888/21 "2024-10-17T12:02:09Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> How can I make you believe that was never in my mind.

Reread what I wrote: “inadvertent.” All your efforts to convince me it was inadvertent are redundant. But you’re unlikely to convince me it wasn’t unconsciously sexist, for reasons I can’t really explain outside of the Pit.

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> ETA. I was very offended you judged me and straight up called me a liar in the other thread. Is that sexist of you? Do you think all women are simple minded and are liars?

Great question! No, and no. I wasn’t judging you based on your appearance, but on your actions. It would be sexist if I _didn’t_ judge women on their actions.

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> ETA how about you change. Mind your own thoughts and quit policing mine.

I have no badge, I’m just telling you my thoughts. As for changing, I don’t plan on changing this aspect of myself, because I’m _happy_ with the current model of “someone says something bigoted, I call them out on it.” I’m not starting threads comparing criticism to torture or 1984 or whatever.

You seem really unhappy with how things stand. My suggestions are solution-oriented.

But I’m not actually sure you want things to change enough to effect that change, so I’m out.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sounds-of-silence/1008888/22 "2024-10-17T12:31:02Z")

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> [@StGermain](#):
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> Right now you seem to have your feelings hurt because people didn’t validate your post.

It wasn’t about seeking validation. it was about the shocking vitriol in some of the responses. Sometimes we simply have a feeling about some person, place, or thing, and we express that feeling. It’s just an opinion.

Heck, we have an entire category entitled, “IMHO”, In My Humble OPINION". Yet, one of the responses seemed to indicate that some opinions are unacceptable simply because, evidently, the person responding didn’t like it.

I remember a discussion about a year ago revolving around steroid abusers, baseball records, and the Hall of Fame. I’m firmly against not only inducting them, but I’m even against acknowledging the records they set. They should be expunged, and Henry Aaron recognized as the home run king. Anyway, I received a number of thoughtful responses that made good points. My final post in that thread contained all the quotes and acknowledgements that they were worthy thoughts. However, my final sentence was: “Yeah, BUT I JUST DON’T LIKE THEM!” That’s my opinion. As an opinion, it is part of what we are here.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sounds-of-silence/1008888/23 "2024-10-17T13:30:24Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> Yet, one of the responses seemed to indicate that some opinions are unacceptable simply because, evidently, the person responding didn’t like it.

Some options _are_ unacceptable. If someone posts something that is sexist, racist, bigoted, etc. they _should_ be called out on it.

“It’s just my opinion!” is not a free pass.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sounds-of-silence/1008888/24 "2024-10-17T14:30:20Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Some options _are_ unacceptable. If someone posts something that is sexist, racist, bigoted, etc. they _should_ be called out on it.
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> “It’s just my opinion!” is not a free pass.

Of course, but her post wasn’t “sexist, racist, or bigoted”. I still feel that this is “much ado about nothing” but, again, it’s just my opinion. Opinions are like noses because everyone has one.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sounds-of-silence/1008888/25 "2024-10-17T14:43:38Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> I still feel that this is “much ado about nothing” but, again, it’s just my opinion.

So, your opinion is that other people’s opinions are just opinions, and are unworthy?

That’s not my opinion. So there.

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> People tell me all the time I’m on their ignore list.

All the time? Do they come up to you with tears in their eyes, “Oh Beck, having you on my ignore list is the best. No one does ignore lists like you!”

Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sounds-of-silence/1008888/26 "2024-10-17T15:10:01Z")

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Moderating:

You can talk about your ignore list in the pit. Not in MPSIMS. This thread is wobbling on the edge of pit territory, and perhaps belongs there. I think it’s best to close it before it goes to far over the edge.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sounds-of-silence/1008888/27 "2024-10-17T15:10:07Z")

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