# South Carolina Democratic primary 2016

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 27, 2016, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281 "2016-02-27T11:26:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/21 "2016-02-28T00:59:35Z")

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That was a really nice speech by Clinton.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/22 "2016-02-28T01:03:26Z")

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Some of those African-American exit polling is quite shocking. I expected Clinton to clean up the African-American vote, but not that much. That’s going to have major implications for Super Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/23 "2016-02-28T01:03:49Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Looking for good spin for Sanders here. The loss may indeed turn out to be 34 points (!) but he still won solidly with the 17 to 29 year old group (63 to 37) and won modestly with White voters (58 to 42) even though SC Whites are less liberal than the first states. And he won White women.

Sanders has consistently had a big lead among young people. Unfortunately for him, that’s the demographic least likely to actually vote.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/24 "2016-02-28T01:04:53Z")

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I’m trying to be nice, but for Sanders to be on a plane, out of Internet contact, at this time seems churlish. Hillary faced the music in NH; does he think everyone will fail to notice he got creamed if he doesn’t give a concession speech?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/25 "2016-02-28T01:12:18Z")

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I’ve got no issue with skipping concession speeches. They are an opportunity, not an obligation.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/26 "2016-02-28T01:13:32Z")

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Based on the returns right now at about 31% reporting, Hillary has a 50 point lead. That’s just immense.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/27 "2016-02-28T01:19:47Z")

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Wow, now it looks like Sanders didn’t win the white vote after all: [x.com](https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/703749298656309248)

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I’ve got no issue with skipping concession speeches. They are an opportunity, not an obligation.

Well, Trump has downscaled what we would call obligations in a “social norm” or “etiquette” sense. But I feel they traditionally were considered the right thing to do.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/28 "2016-02-28T01:25:30Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Based on the returns right now at about 31% reporting, Hillary has a 50 point lead. That’s just immense.

If stays at 50 points Bernie is dead in the water.

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**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/29 "2016-02-28T01:26:49Z")

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The most recent poll on 538 had Clinton up by 50 points. There was a fuss in the comments saying that poll was screening out Bernie voters with it’s Likely Voter screen. It’s looking like their screening process was pretty accurate.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/30 "2016-02-28T01:29:13Z")

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60% reporting, and the lead is 49%. Even with a big shift in the remaining count, she’s going to finish with at least a 40 point win, and possibly 45 points or more.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/31 "2016-02-28T01:33:00Z")

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This is an utter disaster for Sanders at this point. 30 points can be spun. 45 is much, much harder.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/32 "2016-02-28T01:34:39Z")

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Wowwwww.

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**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/33 "2016-02-28T01:34:56Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I’ve got no issue with skipping concession speeches. They are an opportunity, not an obligation.

I’ve got no issue with it either. But not being in SC today at all, plus being on a plane without wifi, plus not giving a concession speech, makes it seem as though he is trying to say that South Carolina doesn’t “count,” doesn’t matter.

Given that he is probably not going to win other Southern states, I suppose that’s a reasonable way to go. “I wasn’t really trying.” “She was going to win anyway.” But it seems kind of…insulting to SC, and I can imagine that seeming like a snub and resounding with voters elsewhere in the South, especially black voters. Not taking the opportunity to give a speech, not being there to thank his supporters. He’ll likely lose states like Virginia anyway, but maybe he loses by 40 points now instead of 25. I don’t know. That can’t be what he wants.

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**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/34 "2016-02-28T01:41:49Z")

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I’m here at his rally in Rochester MN where 4000 people are waiting. I’m interested in hearing any concession comments.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/35 "2016-02-28T02:11:18Z")

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Looks like Hillary is going to beat Bernie by approximately 47 percent.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/36 "2016-02-28T02:11:43Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> That was a really nice speech by Clinton.

[Yes it was.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoI-XVoUqp0)

After about two years of campaigning Hillary is finally getting the message that she needs to talk about America’s future. Not one word in the speech about her own past accomplishments. It’s about damn time.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/37 "2016-02-28T02:18:25Z")

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> [@JohnGalt](#):
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> I’m here at his rally in Rochester MN where 4000 people are waiting. I’m interested in hearing any concession comments.

Let us know!

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/38 "2016-02-28T02:21:53Z")

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Bernie’s done. Those young voters are going to start disappearing now, they’re already the least reliable. Plus, March brings better weather and college spring breaks, so his college town support will drop off.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/39 "2016-02-28T02:24:02Z")

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I read that he got kinda screwed in terms of when most of the primaries were vis-a-vis spring break. That, I genuinely feel sympathetic to his campaign about. Not really fair.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2016, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-carolina-democratic-primary-2016/747281/40 "2016-02-28T02:51:03Z")

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It’s not like it wasn’t known. And who expects kids to vote. And they can vote early if they’re motivated. If heading for the shore is more important then they’ve made their choice.

I was one of about 13,000 D voters today in my county. When I got to the polling place about 3PM it was empty. I was the only one there except the poll workers. I signed in as the 56th person to vote there today.

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