# South Korea Declares Martial Law **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 3, 2024, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111 "2024-12-03T14:09:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/101 "2025-01-03T13:45:39Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > Is it still acceptable to say “Europe” and “European”? Of course. You might want to develop your point a little more, and ensure that you’re contrasting “Europe” with “Asia,” not with “The Orient.” ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/102 "2025-01-03T13:53:37Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > ensure that you’re contrasting “Europe” with “Asia,” not with “The Orient.” Why? As noted, “Europe” and “European” match two of the reasons given for not using “Orient” and “Oriental”. ---
**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/103 "2025-01-03T13:54:24Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > > [@SCAdian](#): > > > > Is it still acceptable to say “Europe” and “European”? > > Of course. You might want to develop your point a little more, and ensure that you’re contrasting “Europe” with “Asia,” not with “The Orient.” It’s always best to put a bit of thought into the words you use, otherwise you might find yourself occidentaly upsetting people. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/104 "2025-01-03T13:56:26Z")
Yet more weird echos of politics in the United States. How much of this is just trying to curry favor with the Trump and tap into the same forces? > **[Why supporters of South Korea’s impeached president Yoon Suk Yeol are flying...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/03/why-yoon-suk-yeol-supporters-us-flags-south-korea-ntwnfb)** > > The prominence of the US flag at conservative rallies reflects a complex intersection of religion, politics and identity that defines South Korea’s far-right movement ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/105 "2025-01-03T14:01:20Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > Why? As noted, “Europe” and “European” match two of the reasons given for not using “Orient” and “Oriental”. There are other reasons as well. Those same scholars don’t object to “Asia” and “Asian,” so it’s possible you’re not getting, from a summary, the full idea of their objection to “The Orient.” ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/106 "2025-01-03T14:04:58Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > There are other reasons as well. Those same scholars don’t object to “Asia” and “Asian,” so it’s possible you’re not getting, from a summary, the full idea of their objection to “The Orient.” This is a hijack that I would be interested in pursuing, but I expect we’ll be told to take it to another thread. I have thoughts on this as well. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/107 "2025-01-03T14:06:09Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > This is a hijack that I would be interested in pursuing, but I expect we’ll be told to take it to another thread. I have thoughts on this as well. Fair point–I had forgotten what this thread was about from early December. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/108 "2025-01-03T14:33:23Z")
Now or in the future, after their Lord and Savior is restored to power by the Military? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/109 "2025-01-04T01:07:38Z")
Last night, my wife and I were watching YTN News’ live stream on YouTube. Of course one of the top stories is the protest in support of Yoon. I was surprised to see a numbr of the protestors holding “stop the steal” signs and chanting “stop the steal” in Enlgish and Korean. And just now, I read [this Reuters article](https://www.reuters.com/world/supporters-south-koreas-yoon-adopt-stop-steal-hope-trump-will-help-2025-01-03/) explaining that. > SEOUL, Jan 3 (Reuters) - Supporters of impeached South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol are adopting “Stop the Steal” slogans popularised by U.S. President-elect Donald Trump supporters and said they hoped the incoming president would help their embattled leader. > > As Yoon supporters gathered outside his residence in the pre-dawn hours of Friday in an effort to prevent his arrest, some carried signs in English saying “Stop the Steal”, a slogan Trump supporters used to question the results of the 2020 U.S. presidential election, which he lost. > > Yoon avoided arrest on Friday after presidential guards and troops blocked efforts to carry out a warrant in a criminal insurrection investigation into his short-lived martial law on Dec. 3. > > Trump, who is set to take office for a second term on Jan. 20, has not commented on Yoon’s situation and there are no clear ties between his campaign and Yoon’s backers. > > But searches for the hashtag #StopTheSteal or “election fraud” in Korean on social media platform X show recent posts uploaded from Koreans featuring memes whose design appears to have been inspired by Trump’s “Make America Great Again” sign. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/110 "2025-01-14T22:52:00Z")
Breaking news: looks like the anti-corruption force is trying a nighttime raid on the presidential compound! > **[LIVE: Investigators attempt to arrest impeached Korean president in early...](https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2025-01-15/national/politics/LIVE--Second-attempt-to-arrest-impeached-Korean-president-expected-in-early-morning-raid/2222461)** > > The Corruption Investigation Office for High-ranking Officials and police are expected to attempt to arrest impeached Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol in an early morning raid at his residence in Seoul this morning. Stay with us for live updates. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/111 "2025-01-14T22:58:14Z")
The first rule of nighttime raid club is that you don’t talk about nighttime raid club - especially on tv! ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/112 "2025-01-14T22:59:58Z")
Given that it’s early morning in Korea, I presume they were talking about the raid as it was happening. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/113 "2025-01-14T23:07:07Z")
I think that’s it - it’s a play by play of an attempt to arrest a president. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/114 "2025-01-15T01:33:41Z")
More details in this MSN article. Corruption officers are unarmed and are using ladders to climb over fences. The deputy chief of the presidential security detail has been arrested. Acting president says that steps are being taken to arrest Yoon to protect the rule of law. [https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/high-drama-as-south-korean-investigators-enter-presidential-compound-to-arrest-impeached-yoon-suk-yeol/ar-AA1xcPdK](https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/high-drama-as-south-korean-investigators-enter-presidential-compound-to-arrest-impeached-yoon-suk-yeol/ar-AA1xcPdK) ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/115 "2025-01-15T02:15:24Z")
And arrested: > **[South Korean president arrested by anti-corruption investigators after...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/14/asia/south-korea-yoon-suk-yeol-residence-intl/index.html)** > > South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol has been arrested, according to the country’s anti corruption agency, the latest chapter in a weekslong political showdown that began with the embattled president’s shock martial law decree last month. > South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol has been arrested, according to the country’s anti corruption agency, the latest chapter in a weekslong political showdown that began with the embattled president’s shock martial law decree last month. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/116 "2025-01-15T06:19:10Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > And arrested [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:lneakytcjaqtx6fsvlsvo2yv/bafkreibnsssj4igmms5go25ifmszzw3p5x2bpcil3xsfskwqpyrbej5kyq@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:lneakytcjaqtx6fsvlsvo2yv/bafkreibnsssj4igmms5go25ifmszzw3p5x2bpcil3xsfskwqpyrbej5kyq@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/117 "2025-01-16T13:21:36Z")
Upon has been questioned but exercised his right to silence. His lawyers say he will not attend the hearing in the Constitutional Court on his possible removal from office. > **[Impeached South Korean President Yoon to avoid new questioning over martial...](https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250116-impeached-south-korean-president-yoon-to-avoid-new-questioning-over-martial-law-bid)** > > Detained South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol would not take part in further questioning on Thursday, his lawyers said, sparking speculation about how cooperative the impeached president will be after… ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/118 "2025-01-19T05:54:46Z")
Court confirms arrest warrant for Yoon. Yoon’s supporters riot and trash courthouse. > **[South Korea's impeached president is arrested over a martial law declaration...](https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-yoon-martial-law-arrest-rebellion-court-hearing-da68666edc4ac5ad11049362da1a84d7)** > > If Yoon is arrested, investigators can extend his detention to 20 days, during which they will transfer the case to public prosecutors for indictment. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2025, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/119 "2025-02-19T02:29:15Z")
Summary of the proceedings in the Constitutional Court. Verdict is expected sometime in March. Removal from office requires vote of at least six of the eight justices. > **[How South Korea's Constitutional Court is deciding on the president's future](https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-yoon-suk-yeol-martial-law-constitutional-court-rebellion-3fe04ba7f081d5ac27a429b181364e5d)** > > South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol is putting up a desperate fight for his political life at Seoul’s Constitutional Court after being impeached and arrested for his short-lived imposition of martial law last year. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111/120 "2025-04-04T03:09:25Z")
South Korea Supreme Court unanimously confirms impeachment of Yoon and removes him from office. > The eight judges on the Constitutional Court ruled unanimously against Yoon, 64, finding him guilty on all counts. The decision, which was broadcast live and cannot be appealed, means that an election for Yoon’s successor must be held within 60 days. > **[South Korean court upholds President Yoon's impeachment over martial law order](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna197213)** > > President Yoon Suk Yeol’s brief martial law declaration and subsequent impeachment trial have deeply divided South Korea, a key U.S. ally. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-korea-declares-martial-law/1011111.md?page=7)