# South Park 10/21/09 "W.T.F." **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 22, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711 "2009-10-22T05:19:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/1 "2009-10-22T05:19:16Z")
Didn’t see a thread on the latest episode of South Park, so here it is… overall, a pretty bland episode, but then again, I think wrestling (and 'rasslin) is _stupid_ anyway, I was hoping for more overt slams/insults/ridicule, the only part of the ep that got a smile out of me was the callbacks and variations on the “they terk our jerbs!” gag from the “Goobacks” episode mediocre episode, and Kenny didn’t even die in this one… ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/2 "2009-10-22T06:08:23Z")
Kenny was the Mexican Wrestler that grabbed the rocket and blew up in a hail of fireworks. The Mexican fans then shouted “You killed Kenny (Mexican wrestler name I didn’t catch)!” in Spanish. Unfortunately it was the funniest part of the episode. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/3 "2009-10-22T06:12:29Z")
Ahh, I got bored with the ep quickly, and went back to internet surfing, but I kept the ep on, and more listened to it than watched it… So, Kenny _did_ die then, I still rate the ep as a “meh” though. ---
**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/4 "2009-10-22T06:13:41Z")
[del]So then who was it that got blown up with the fireworks?[/del] Nevermind… answered while I was typing. For me, the best part of the whole episode was the riffing on auditions from \* A Chorus Line\*. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/5 "2009-10-22T13:33:23Z")
I thought the episode was meh also. Like above, my favorite part was when the “wrestler” said, “He took my job!” I knew what was next but I get a kick out of it every time. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/6 "2009-10-22T13:39:25Z")
> [@Hockey\_Monkey](#): > > Kenny was the Mexican Wrestler that grabbed the rocket and blew up in a hail of fireworks. The Mexican fans then shouted “You killed Kenny (Mexican wrestler name I didn’t catch)!” in Spanish. Unfortunately it was the funniest part of the episode. Kenny was “El Pollo Loco” (“Crazy Chicken”). Yeah, the initial premise was kind of amusing but it didn’t go anywhere. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/7 "2009-10-22T15:47:53Z")
This was very disappointing after last weeks great episode. “Wrestling is fake and real wrestling looks faggy” might have been funny oh… fifteen years ago before it became common knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2009, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/8 "2009-10-22T22:59:44Z")
I liked it. I always thought the storylines in wrestling are overblown and I long for the good ol days of Bruno Sammartino and Killer Kowalski. Did y’all notice the smaller headlines in the South Park newspaper, “Boy Lost in Balloon” and “Balloon Stunt’s A Hoax”? Matt and Trey can work in a topical story pretty fast, can’t they? And yes, I saw “About Last Night” and know they worked on that one the day of the broadcast. Here’s hoping they decide to do an episode based on the balloon event. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/9 "2009-10-23T14:56:16Z")
I liked it. I think the theme wasn’t that wrestling was fake, but that so many of the fans still don’t realize how staged it is (and enjoy watching the non-wrestling stuff more than the actual wrestling). The guys who sneer at soap operas but don’t realize that they are watching one. Another recent culture reference was the abortion addict. ---
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/10 "2009-10-23T15:11:31Z")
Cartman has always been a bit obsessed with abortions. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/11 "2009-10-23T17:59:54Z")
> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#): > > Cartman has always been a bit obsessed with abortions. His mom did try to abort him in the 40th trimester. I liked this ep better than most of you, I guess. I thought the chimes signalling the end of intermission were pretty funny, as was Vince McMahon as a theater buff. Also: “That’s not wrestling, This is wrestling!” (pause) “Mister, you better take your gay porn and get on out of here.” Not a great ep, but far from the worst. The only part I didn’t like was the whole “they terk er jerbs” which you all seem to like. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/12 "2009-10-25T05:45:08Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > I think the theme wasn’t that wrestling was fake, but that so many of the fans still don’t realize how staged it is No, we pretty much all know just how staged it is. Go to any wrestling website (that isn’t run by an actual promotion) and no one thinks it’s any more real any more than someone on a scifi site thinks Heroes or Dollhouse is real. Hell, I’ve run into more people on the internet that think the Matrix is based on a true story than think the WWE is non-scripted. Wrestling fans are more interested in discussing why the writer monkeys are saddling their favorite guy with bad storylines, or how they’ll take the title belt off the guy that just got suspended after he failed a drug test, or what guy’s getting an undeserved push because of who he’s friends with, or who’s banging which “Diva” in real life than in acting like it’s really people going out there and competitively fighting each other. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/13 "2009-10-25T14:46:24Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Wrestling fans are more interested in discussing why the writer monkeys are saddling their favorite guy with bad storylines, or how they’ll take the title belt off the guy that just got suspended after he failed a drug test, or what guy’s getting an undeserved push because of who he’s friends with, or who’s banging which “Diva” in real life than in acting like it’s really people going out there and competitively fighting each other. On reflection, the _physical_ aspect of pro-wrestling is actually pretty boring. There are twenty or so basic moves that all the wrestlers know and no incentive to come up with anything new because they’re not actually trying to physically defeat each other. The soap-operatic storylines would the only thing holding _my_ interest if I was into pro-wrestling. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/14 "2009-10-28T19:08:37Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Here’s hoping they decide to do an episode based on the balloon event. OK, but after this they’ve got a lot to make up for. It’s not enough for the balloon-hoax episode to be meta-self-referential about the popular media, **including _South Park itself,_** feeding the modern American instant-fame-for-fame’s-sake obsession. It has to be meta-meta-self-referential, etc., **and still not too labored to be funny.** Ball’s in your court, Stone & Parker! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/15 "2009-10-28T19:35:33Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > On reflection, the _physical_ aspect of pro-wrestling is actually pretty boring. There are twenty or so basic moves that all the wrestlers know and no incentive to come up with anything new because they’re not actually trying to physically defeat each other. The soap-operatic storylines would the only thing holding _my_ interest if I was into pro-wrestling. Hmmm . . . Suppose they were to come up with a new thing combining Ultimate Fighting (real-thing moves & pain) with Pro Wrestling (showmanship & storylines)? Would the fabric of reality disintegrate? ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/16 "2009-10-28T21:19:15Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > OK, but after this they’ve got a lot to make up for. It’s not enough for the balloon-hoax episode to be meta-self-referential about the popular media, **including _South Park itself,_** feeding the modern American instant-fame-for-fame’s-sake obsession. It has to be meta-meta-self-referential, etc., **and still not too labored to be funny.** Ball’s in your court, Stone & Parker! I don’t think that’s what they were going for at all. Rather, I think they were actually mocking the tendency of the soap-opera stuff to slowly grow over the increasingly-silly fights. Without anyone caring. The rest of it was just for fun, and to show off the less-than-brilliant denizens of South Park, CO. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/17 "2009-10-28T21:24:04Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Hmmm . . . > > Suppose they were to come up with a new thing combining Ultimate Fighting (real-thing moves & pain) with Pro Wrestling (showmanship & storylines)? Would the fabric of reality disintegrate? Wouldn’t work. Part of the appeal is seeing Heel’s get their comeuppance, and in an actual MMA match, you can’t guarantee that the guy wearing a suit on camera (which is almost always a heel) is going to win/lose/draw to further along a story line. Plus, as you can see by the negative feedback Lesner got when he tried some theatrical posturing after his win, while there is some overlap, fans of MAA and fans of WWE are really in it for 2 different things. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/18 "2009-10-29T00:21:10Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Hmmm . . . > > Suppose they were to come up with a new thing combining Ultimate Fighting (real-thing moves & pain) with Pro Wrestling (showmanship & storylines)? Would the fabric of reality disintegrate? I dunno, but the first time somebody tried using a folding chair in a seriously aggressive manner, somebody else would lose all his teeth. Not that that wouldn’t be watchable, but it would shorten a lot of careers. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/19 "2009-10-29T08:51:37Z")
Didn’t they suspend a wrestler for testing positive for steroids? If so, what was the thinking behind that? It’d be like suspending Sylvester Stallone from a Rambo movie; it just doesn’t make any sense. Steroids can’t give you a competitive advantage because there is no actual competition. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/south-park-10-21-09-w-t-f/514711/20 "2009-10-31T09:37:42Z")
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